Question: Dialogue with ShivBaba?

“It is about talking with Shiv Baba in paramdham, we have done that .. I mean I had done that while I was on that path. We go there by converting ourselves into a point form of soul and visualize baba in front of us and then we both start talking:
Soul: Good morning Baba
Supreme Soul: Good morning my sweet child
Soul: Baba I am not feeling good today
Supreme soul: Why what happened?
Soul: Someone said something really hurtful in office, and I am a little angry on that guy.
Supreme soul: Oh sweetheart, that guy was just playing a role in the drama of your life and in the cosmic drama too. And that too according to his own sanskars. Forgive that soul and move on child.
Soul: Oh baba, you are so great you freed me from anger I had on that guy by giving this answer. Thank you baba, now I have a lot of work, going down on stage back and will see you soon, love you baba.

Well that was my personal example in my own way. But my question is “Are all the replies from Baba are from my own mind and not from Baba, because we feel that when we do? That we are talking with our own mind and not with any supreme being.” 

Thank you for your question.
In Brahma Kumaris a relationship with God is emphasized.
It is a relationship what brings love. It is through love, how a BK is able to follow their ascetic Lifestyle.

Nevertheless, most of the BK followers only know about this God through Murlis or through a BapDada Milan. It is quite impersonal. Very few have actually had a relationship with subtle Brahma.

Could you fall in love with someone who you only know through writings? Could you fall in love with the picture or video of that someone?

Apparently, some have been conditioned to believe that this “feeling” is love.

Therefore, the mind needs to believe that this relationship is in fact going on. That is why, the dialogue that you bring between “you” and “ShivBaba/Brahma Baba” is necessary, otherwise; where is the relationship?

Your mind is making that up, but at the same time; it is believed that you are “connecting with God” through a “feeling” that you get afterwards: You feel more peaceful, calm, happy…. Because you had a conversation with God. You are truly talking to yourself, but it is nice to believe that God is speaking to you and listening to you.

Most individuals cannot recognize what is their minds and what is not, so it is safe to have a structured “chit chat” where you know what God will tell you (good things) and you know your role of a complainer (bad things). That is the arrangement. It works!

Observe that this same procedure is used nowadays through the impersonal use of technology.
For example, someone may call me “their guru” because she likes the stuff that I write here and she likes my picture.
In reality, what comes through  these writings is not me. My picture is not me. 
A relationship is needed for “love” to appear. Something personal, to be around that person to get to know the person… this will certainly unmask the fantasy.

This “relationship” is all mental as for most; Brahma Baba and ShivBaba are only beliefs, pictures, writings, a collection of stories told by someone else higher up in the hierarchy.

That is the level of honesty that needs to be accepted before moving on… but the attachment to the idea: “I have found God, I cannot be wrong” is so profound; that it is best to live with the fantasy created by the unobserved mind rather than to acknowledge “what is.”

Nevertheless, The Brahma Kumaris method of a “relationship with God” is necessary for those who need to feel assured that they are in the “right path.”  The power of “yoga” then, is understood as needed baby formula that is given to a baby in his process of growth. You think God, you feel God… you believe God… but most important;  YOU are “special and safe” for you know God.  A time proven way to develop ego, which is necessary to dilute it.

 

For the common good.

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