The typical BK questions: Karma, Drama, Cycle of time.
Back from vacation! There will be some changes in this blog.
Avyakt7-NG will be writing an article once a week. Typically, on a Thursday. As time goes by, there will be further changes in the way Avyakt7-NG will share to BK or Ex-BK readers.
Avyakt7-NG encourages you to send your questions. Please make those questions to the point and hopefully, for the “common good” rather than personal issues.
Lakshmipriya sent her question(s) here:
In your first question: If “I” look honestly, If “I” suffer from a disease, no words or mental console could help me. The point is that there is no “reason” that could take “my” suffering away. Yes, “karma” is a “reason.” It could be true, but many times in our current life times we do not see the “why” we have to settle or “pay” for something that we do not even remember that “we did” in a past life. On the other hand, BK knowledge states that there is predestination. That means there was no way out. We had to go through that experience. Period.
Whatever it is happening, it IS. Deal with it, knowing that experiences have a duration and then, they will go away. This is not a belief. Enjoyment should be there out of any Life experience, for every experience never comes by itself, there is a thread of other experiences along with it, worth enjoying them.
Question #2: If you understand the Drama well, you will see that there is NOTHING that could be labeled as “bad,” or “good.” It is what it IS and for a limited time.
Question#3: The word “actor” imply many things. An actor “knows” (has the experience) of being an actor. Most human beings do not. For most, we feel that it is “I.” That is our consciousness. Lakshmipriya: Your keywords are: “This understanding, helps me.” Avyakt7-NG shares that mental understanding does not change BEING. It only puts a façade to mentally “accept” the issue. However, that stage is necessary to go beyond the trap of the mind.
In one of Avyakt7’s trips to India as a BK, Avyakt7 went to Jodphur by himself.
It is a different “reality” there, than being sheltered in Madhuban. Avyakt7 remembers seeing a dog walking down the street. The dog was limping. The dog was very dirty and it seemed as it had many diseases. The dog most likely, did not have a home. No food waiting. However, the dog was living Life. There is no “idea” of committing “suicide.” That dog was free from the mind. There is no “reason” needed to comfort the “suffering” of the dog, for the dog does not have that duality in the mind. On the other hand, humans are looking for “reasons” which they call “knowledge.” Those are pacifiers for someone living in the mind.
The dog may “instinctively” KNOW that the “medicine is to go through the experience itself. Not to try to escape it. Light is at the end of that tunnel.”
Hope that answered your questions.
At the same time, this answers Christopher Joseph’s inquiry about “karma.”
Now, on the question by Dinesh here:
Ahnanda had the privilege to connect with his friend, Mathias while in Peru. Ahnanda shared with Mathias that Ahnanda’s sharing of “no-I” was misunderstood. Mathias responded that “ That [No-I] hurts them.” Also, he mentioned about “taking the pulse of others before sharing” without using those BK words.
Therefore: When we experience “no-I” there is no cycle of time.
When we experience “I” we are afraid of the cycle of time. When we “intellectually know” about the cycle of time and we believe it, while being only conscious of the “I,” there will be an inner war, an inner fight, a dissonance for the belief goes against our consciousness of “I have free will.”
Thus, knowing that what will you DO? 🙂
For the common good.
Lakshmipriya Nagarajan 6:04 AM on November 30, 2017 Permalink |
To look myself honestly I require the knowledge of truth. Isn’t it brother?. If the right answer is not given to the mind, the mind is going to keep on chatter. Over a period of time, I do not require to give any reason to the mind as the questioning ceases on this issue as I experience the truth. I understand “no-I” as “no ego”, no acquired sanskars. Otherwise embodied soul will have mind. And as I become close to “being”, probably i will be harmonizing the thought and actions. Yes, the suffering of body can not be stopped but the amplification of suffering caused by the mind’s expansion can be stopped by applying the powerful brake of knowledge. Isn’t it?
Don’t I have the power to accept to go beyond the trap of mind. By using this power at right time in a right way many times, I can become the embodiment of that power. This will bring me to a stage of no-I. Isn’t it? In order to bring this “power to accept” in action, I need some knowledge points such as drama is accurate in operating as per philosophy of Karma, it is beneficial in bringing me to my original self. Everyone is actor playing their perfect role in the drama so on so forth…
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avyakt7- New Generation 9:27 AM on November 30, 2017 Permalink |
As far as my experience, honesty is not related with some external idea of what “truth” should be. Honesty is to know what truly is going on inside and acknowledge it. As you mentioned, “knowledge” stops the amplification of suffering which comes from the mind. But it is only temporarily, for a few days; then the mind needs the same or higher quantity of that “fix.” This is the “reason” why in BK there is a need to listen to the Murli everyday. We “understand but we forget.” Nevertheless, even though the amplification of the sound could be stopped for a few days… the sound is still there. We want to get rid of it “now,” but that is not in the Drama…
“No-I” is not an idea. It is an experience. Until there is experience, there can only be mind made speculations on how to “arrive to it,” how to “get it for me,” how to achieve it… All of that is an extension of the “I.”
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Gayathri 11:52 AM on November 30, 2017 Permalink |
There are many levels of understanding/ interpreting Baba’s words.
Baba says, “The ghost of attachment destroys all truth, everything”.
Attachment comes from the word, ‘mine’. When we are not very sure who “I” am, we tend to assume our physical body, physical relationships, and physical belongings to be ‘mine’/ ours.
Recently we were churning the topic, “Drama”. Though we may consider ourselves to be a soul, even the soul can not claim its qualities/ sanskars as its own because the soul is ONLY a ‘container’ for the 84 or so roles that are destined to be played through that particular soul. Every thought, word, and action of the soul is already destined to happen in a particular sequence, in a particular way which can not be changed even minutely.
It is not just the body that we possess, even the roles that are being played through us are not OURS in the sense we have no control over them, we can not order and get them do things according to our wish.
The real “I” is just an observer, a catalyst… When we can not even separate the real “I” from the role that is being played through us, when we confuse our role to be the real “I”, how real could be the ‘mine’?
Considering the ‘role’ as the “I” it self is a myth/ a ghost, and the ‘mine’, the attachment is a ‘ghost’ that makes us believe that we own certain people and objects. Our eyes deceive us a lot. 🙂 What we usually consider as ‘mine’, the attachment, destroys all the truth.
regards,
Gayathri ben.
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ahnanda 3:27 PM on December 1, 2017 Permalink |
“Attachment comes from the word, ‘mine’. ”
Attachment is not a word. Words are merely pointers. Understanding of words is not necessary. What is important is to look at the pointers and find those in ourselves. That requires honesty, observation, awareness… not “knowledge.” Churning has no consequence but it is a distraction for the mind. We could come up with wonderful ideas and never look at the self with honesty.
The ultimate attachment is to the self, but attachment is not the issue once we discover that what we call self, is always changing. The mind is stuck with a picture, when Life is a movie. 🙂
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Gayathri 8:27 PM on December 1, 2017 Permalink |
Yes brother, i agree. 🙂 welcome back.
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Christopher joseph 5:51 AM on December 2, 2017 Permalink |
Very rightly said Ahnanda.Esp.the example of the dog whether there is light at the end of the tunnel or no light should not make a difference.as we should live with zero expectation. THE NON BEING.😊Still my mind Questions me as to how I came into being in the present environment (in the absence of karma)🤔😊
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ahnanda 4:32 PM on December 3, 2017 Permalink |
As we know, the way to calm the mind is to give it some “reason.” Make up or get convinced with whatever “reason” you like … and then BELIEVE it. That is all! 🙂
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Christopher joseph 7:52 AM on December 5, 2017 Permalink |
Thanks Ahnanda😊.Hoping to learn more from you.😊
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Dinesh C 11:58 PM on December 2, 2017 Permalink |
ok Hi Ahnanda, thanks a lot bro for sharing that information with us from your friend Mithias, I feel what they said is actually true, but can you please briefly tell us in what way the “No-I” is hurting us? Because if I share what I ended up doing after “Knowing” this “No-I” is that I tried applying it at the level of intellect again, though you told me that the “No-I” simply happens, there is no DOING involved in this experience.
Regarding knowing the pulse of the other being before sharing this experience of N0-I, I have mostly shared some of my life experiences here in an open way, even about my sexuality, and experience of what happened during me being an Adhar Kumar for 6 years, in breif way! so actually to some extent you know my pulse Ahnanda! well I am just saying about what I understand from my experience… so thanks again 🙂
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ahnanda 4:39 PM on December 3, 2017 Permalink |
Most humans are experiencing the “I.” Brahma Kumaris “knowledge” is supportive of it. So is Christianity and most mainstream religions.
To say : The “I” doesn’t exist. “You” are not the one controlling your Life. It is perplexing, when people are interested in becoming SOMEONE in Life and the after life. Dinesh: You try many things but it is at the intellectual level. “Trying” is “I.”
Then the questions you may have is: Then, How do “I” improve? Again, trapped in the “I.”
There are many things in Life the mind cannot understand for understanding comes through experience, not trough intellectual talk… 🙂
Awareness, consciousness, observation… That is all is needed, but when we are not there, we may need to DO something to “improve.’ Thus, wherever you are, is good. Enjoy it!
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Lakshmipriya Nagarajan 2:56 AM on December 6, 2017 Permalink |
yes brother, any point of knowledge if not coming into experience, it is just understanding. Yes, I need the support of murli to maintain silence in the mind. I need murli everyday as a tonic to infuse the positive thoughts in the mind otherwise it goes out of control. I do not even able to observe me as I end up with action. Murli churning helps to observe me and act according to Shrimath. For sure, I would say, that I started observing me, accept the emotions, and try to let go of it. This blog helped me a lot to churn murli in different way..Thanks a lot.
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ahnanda 10:32 AM on December 6, 2017 Permalink |
Lakshmipriya: Observe how you interpret “my” words according to your experiences and conditionings. You are not the only one. I am definitely learning from that. At the end, what matters is that all of these writings are “helpful to you.” It is interesting to note, that for others; these writings are not helpful at all… 🙂
Any one wants to ask WHY?
It doesn’t matter. Any reason may be called “knowledge” but that label doesn’t make any difference for those feeling these writings to be unhelpful or helpful.
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