The existence of God
Does God exist?
There are only 2 possible answers: Yes or No.
Reasonably, there can be many arguments against or for.
Experientially, the “special” few will share their experiences to the many.
The many will become followers, believers…
Therefore, there are many who are “right” and many who are “wrong,” depending on the chosen belief. An intelligent person wants to align with those who are “right” so he too can be “right.” That is the silly game of the mind.
“God” is without meaning to those who are only interested in a simple “yes” or “no” or for those interested in being “right.”
“God” has meaning for those who are looking for a way out of suffering, those who are searching for hope during an otherwise, meaningless life. A simple yes or no will not quench their thirst.
Religions have their own versions of “God.” Christians have a God who has existed in their awareness for 2000 years. Brahma Kumaris has a God, who has existed for 100 years for those believers. Both gods are different. “Eternal Life” is the only thing they have in common.
If a Hollywood movie star gives his opinion, such as: “God does not exist. I believe in Science,” or “Everyone has their own take of God. My God is as I want him to be.”
Those statements make sense, they are reasonable, however; completely meaningless.
Those movie stars, have not started the journey of searching for answers in Life for suffering hasn’t knock at their doors enough times yet. “Searching” is not about reading books or information.
To know the answer of that question is a journey: Deny God all you want. It may take many years or a Life time. Then, it is guarantee that you will believe in God. At the end of that journey, you will have the answer.
OR believe in God all you want. Join religions, convert others, etc. Then, naturally, you will deny his existence. At the end of that journey, you will have the answer. The believer and the atheist are the same.
The “yes” and the “no” will take you to the same place as long as we go through the complete “yes” and the complete “no.” Otherwise, we will only have beliefs, even though rational, logical; those beliefs will only serve to divide people through the use of labels but there will not be a bit of meaning, able to affect our consciousness.
A complete journey will change our consciousness, although we don’t know when. It just happens.
All we have to DO is to allow for change to happen. The “truth” of the answer of the existence of God, is in the honest search which brings a journey.
No one can give you an answer. We need to find it ourselves.
The ones who truly know, cannot talk about it. Why?
The answer: Compassion.
Christopher 8:37 AM on May 31, 2018 Permalink |
Dear Avyakt ,I feel that no one knows the answer so how is “compassion “the answer to the one who knows ? (Compassion on what?? I couldn’t understand your point of view .
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avyakt7- New Generation 11:41 AM on May 31, 2018 Permalink |
..but those who know the answer know EXACTLY what I mean.
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Christopher 9:48 PM on May 31, 2018 Permalink |
Thanks Gayathari,you made it very clear to me…Special regards😊🙏.
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Gayathri 9:38 PM on May 31, 2018 Permalink |
The one who understands the journey, and finds his own ‘truth’ about God, will not ‘disturb’ others to believe what he has learnt, simply because he is compassionate; he lets them continue with their own journey so as to find their own truth. Any individual would find his own truth in different births in different ways with different answers. 🙂
In this context i would like to share my experience: i have a friend who is highly spiritual (according to our yard stick 🙂 ) and has certain spiritual gifts. Once, around 27 years ago (I was not a BK then), we were discussing the atheistic approach of two people who were closely connected to us and she told me that both these people, in their previous births, were staunch devotees and priests. Their experiences made them lose faith in God and thus they had become total atheists in the present birth. At that time i just believed what she said because i knew she had no ulterior motives in revealing her thoughts. But now i think i understand the process of our life’s journey to some extent.
Either way, this also could be an assumption, after all. 🙂
regards,
Gayathri.
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Gayathri 2:53 AM on June 7, 2018 Permalink |
Want to share a message that i sent yesterday to a group called Victoriousjewels. I received a few responses and again replied to them. The one i am going to send to this blog was my first message on the topic, “making effort”.
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Gayathri 2:55 AM on June 7, 2018 Permalink |
Making effort according to drama… some observations.
Dear Victorious jewels,
Om shanti.
Would like to share with you some observations that i made in this spiritual journey. Hope you will go through this message and share your thoughts too.
I have been in gyan and reading muralis since 25 years… With passing of time, and in the company of some senior yogis, i have observed and learnt a few things.
1.. Baba gives the murali for students of all ages, starting from the one day old child to 5,6 decade old children. Because of this vast range of ‘age groups’ in the global class room, he has to give different directions to children of different age groups on any given day in a single murali. And it is our job to assimilate the knowledge first at the basic level and then gradually try to learn and experiment at a higher level to become a mature yogi.
That is the reason why Baba asks us to ‘dive deep in to the ocean of knowledge’ to get the real/ precious jewels. But many BKs get stuck at the basic level and choose to stay only on the shores of the Ocean and collect the shells; that is, they take Baba’s words literally instead of grasping the message he conveys, and end up understanding the murali superficially.
3.Recently i met a relative of mine who once narrated me his story of meeting an expert of “Nadi shastram’, and this meeting has inspired me to share my thoughts on Drama with you once again after a gap of one year on this topic. 🙂
(Nadi astrology /shastram is based on predictions that an ancient Tamil sage called Agathiyar had written on palm leaves. Apparently, there’s a palm leaf that corresponds to everyone. If you find your leaf, you’ll get to know your future.)
And the predictions given for my relative were very very accurate including the name of his wife! Please be reminded that they were written more than one thousand years ago and my relative would have taken quite a number of births after that to reach the present life. That means, unless all his previous births were also predetermined, he would not have reached the present life, the main incidents of which were already accurately written on that palm leaf.
The sage Agathiyar had predicted the future of lakhs of people accurately that too more than a thousand years ago.
Baba says that this drama is predestined and that whatever happens now will get repeated every kalpa in the same way second by second. Nadi shastram PROVES this point. It reveals as to what is happening in our present life, that means, whatever we have done in the past 10 or more births (after it was written at least 1000 years ago) must have followed a pre determined pattern for us to have reached the present state of being.
We may believe that by ‘making effort’ we can change our destiny. But, we have been noticing that even among the BKs who have faith in the Father, and read murali every day, and ‘make effort’ to improve themselves, how many had attained success?
Why is it that some could make progress and some couldn’t? That is because of Drama which follows the pre written script accurately.
We notice some BKs, even after decades of practising Raja yoga, have not changed/ could not change their sanskars. Why is it so? DRAMA.
Baba says, “The role of 84 births are recorded in the soul which can not be erased.” – This is shrimat, is n’t it? This is from the murali, is n’t it? Then where is the question of making effort or not making effort when we could only attain whatever is destined to happen?
The cassette player (soul) is just a cassette player from which the cassette of our role is being played. The cassette player can not manipulate the cassette to play other than what is recorded in it, or, can it? 🙂
Understanding this aspect is what enables us to be detached observers and maintain the consciousness of being an ‘instrument’. This makes us to understand every one’s role, and to be sympathetic to them. This realisation enables us to give love and respect to every actor in the drama as no matter what kind of role is being played through a soul, it is just a role and the soul has no authority to bring changes in his/ her role. This is a predestined drama and the drama script is eternal.
” But, Baba tells us to make effort!” – Yes, Baba tells us to make effort, that direction is for the beginners. He also says that the Drama is predestined and only those who are destined to come here would come to take the knowledge. And He also says that no matter how much effort one may put in, we can become karmateet only at the end.
So, even if we make very intense effort to become karmateet in a week’s / month time, our sanskars do not change on the basis of our yoga or service to reach that stage.
Many BKs behave/ pretend as if they had overcome attachment, lust, anger, ego etc. But it becomes very much visible in an unguarded moment; then it even shakes that person’s confidence too. Our intellect might tell us that we have overcome all the vices, but it is nothing but self deception… by not committing ‘sin’ at the action level, we do not become pure as the old sanskars would be waiting to express themselves at any time. Any amount of preaching, yoga, and service can not change our sanskars EXCEPT when we go through certain experiences in our lives according to the drama script. Till then we would be faking the ‘angelic’ stage but would have continued to remain as a tamopradhan soul.
“Then, what are we supposed to be doing? Doing nothing?” – Well, well, when we understand that the predetermined role is being played through us on which the soul has no control, let us accept ourselves as we are and be honest with the self, be a detached observer (like what Baba says), and stop pretending / showing off. Only those who are real yogis ‘can cross the river’ and those who pretend to be yogis will have to ‘take a boat’ to cross; and that would be quite embarrassing to the soul.
I felt like sharing these thoughts as i notice some BKs behaving exactly like lokik business men who ‘work hard’ to amass wealth. Some BKs compete with others, get jealous of others if others could perform better than them in the field of service. Some souls mentally calculate as to how much wealthy they would be in future based on how much they have contributed to the yagya in terms of body, mind, and wealth. Some souls look down upon the new comers and assume that the new students are going to be their subjects in their future kingdom!
Are we working on becoming yogis and carefree emperors or in becoming kings and emperors? Are we interested in emerging our divine sanskars as claimed by us or are working on amassing wealth and a huge kingdom? Is n’t it like an employee working hard to get a promotion and bonus? Does it not sound like doing a lokik business? 🙂
“Well, Baba tells us to create our kingdom and subjects.” – Yes, that direction/ incentive is for the elementary class students – Baba also tells us to forget the old world and get detached from all the relationships and physical assets and to focus on becoming completely pure. Why is it that such an important point of knowledge is getting neglected? What should be our aim and objective?
Luckily, according to drama, we reach our destination automatically (with or wothout making any specific effort) and with much more ease if we are honest with ourselves and accept ourselves as we really are without faking to be an angel.
But Baba says, “Children, do not say that i would any way get whatever is in my fortune, but make sincere effort.” – Yes, Baba is like our mother. Imagine a mother who has 3,4 children, and she had happened to know the future of all her children (like Baba does). Out of her love for them and also as a part of doing her duty, she would tell every child to study well and to be honest, but she would know in her heart of hearts that only a particular child would study well and others would not. She might be knowing that only a couple of them would lead a life of honesty; but that does not deter her from cautioning/ preaching all the children to lead a life of honesty.
So, it is high time we started understanding the essence of murali and lead a life of a detached observer. This attitude enables us to understand, love, and respect every role of souls and creates harmony in relationships and peace in the world.
Om shanti.
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