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  • avyakt7- New Generation 6:19 AM on January 10, 2018 Permalink | Reply
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    The mind and its extremes in BK Life 

    One of the characteristics of a person being utilized by his own mind, is that he will go to extremes as part of his beliefs and ego needs.

    Brahma Kumaris will offer that experience, but if we are not AWARE, we will miss the chance.
    For instance, a follower who has believed in Brahma Kumaris for a long time and has invested resources to support his belief system, is going to “teach others” as he will believe that he is DOING good to others or that he is BECOMING someone “special.”

    The ego needs a way to expand. “My beliefs are TRUE therefore, I am helping others who cannot see what I can.” This sort of grandiose is only showing ego. A person who is UNAWARE, will not notice such pretentious life. It is no longer about “self-realization” but to “self-realize others.”

    Let us say that this person gets disappointed and leaves the BK system. More likely, if his ego is starving for recognition; he will go to the other extreme.
    Now, he will preach “salvation” from the BK system.
    Observe that this person is DOING exactly the same thing, but in opposite direction.
    That is a DOING of the mind.

    Most of the time the extreme is proportional. That is, the deeper we go on one side, the mind will go into the other at the same intensity.

    Observe that Brahma Kumaris teachings are of no consequence for those who are AWARE. What matters is to observe “ME,” to observe how is it possible to believe on having the TRUTH just to go to the other side and deny it, but still saving face as a “SAVIOR” in both instances.

    It goes something like this:
    “I believe in BK teachings. I AM good because I spread them. A few years later: I don’t believe in BK teachings. I AM good because I am saving others from it.”

    We are not aware of the dualistic mind.

    Isn’t “self-realization” what “spiritual” seekers want?
    How is it possible to pass the opportunity to observe their own mind?

    The conditioning is great. As a BK, we see Life as “good or evil.” (duality.)
    Out of the BK experience, still the same duality exists. The EGO perceives that “I was wrong,” so the way to make things “right” is to go against what was embraced before. I must redeem myself.

    In “spirituality” there is no such a thing as “God realization.” But when “the others” is very important in our Life and our dependency is great; then “god realization” weighs more than “self-realization.”

    Also, there is no such a thing as “DOING service.” You ARE therefore, that is what is serviceable or non-serviceable. To DO a recipe of things believing to be the “right” thing, despite not BEING congruent with that DOING, is lack of honesty.

    Any follower who is expecting for words to show them “truth,” is kidding himself. If those words aren’t according to my experience, I am lying to myself.

    The original teachings of Brahma Baba through his experience have been changed. There have been many people (leaders) putting their hands on these “teachings.” This is a frequent experience when regular people surround someone who is in the process of changing his consciousness at a different level. These followers are more concerned in spreading their “truth” and making it available to the masses, rather than learning themselves from that unique experience of witnessing someone closer, going through the process of self-realization.

    So why Brahma Baba does not show up and take a stand against those BKs who are misinterpreting his teachings?

    Brahma Baba had his chance to act. He did while “alive.” Now, others have the opportunity to act as well. This is not about “making things right.”
    That is a human limited vision based on a strong conditioning. In the unlimited, it is about the experience that will be able to change consciousness. To allow everyone to “act” as they need to; for at the end of the game; we know that in fact it is a predestined game, and everything will be as it has to BE. What is “good”? What is “right”? Obviously what is happening in the Drama / Life. Therefore, nothing is “bad” or “wrong.”  Do we have the openness to consider this?  Many like to throw their human morality into the picture and then want to be self-realized at the same time!! This, does not mean either to be “immoral.”  Let us not go to the extreme of mental dualities. It just means to have acceptance, amplitude, “open mind,” to appreciate things beyond our narrow intellectual perception, our “black or white” illusion of a world full of color.
    Therefore, OBSERVE your own game. Become AWARE of it… a “detached observer” of it.  

    For the common good.

  • avyakt7- New Generation 6:22 AM on January 3, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: appreciation, Baba's remembrance, , , enjoyment, , , , , , yoga of the mind   

    Question: Why sometimes that thinking which I observe overpowers “ME” and I end up doing something I didn’t want to? 

    Thank you for your very good question.
    The last article about Brahma Kumaris remembrance is one of the most important produced in this website. Nevertheless, it may not be understood in that way by many readers. That practice of BK remembrance is a “trick” to get out of the current events of the mind. It is a necessary “trick” if awareness of the workings of the mind is lacking.

    For instance, if you were a BK; then you could just “remember Baba” and follow some safe script (Maryadas, for instance) so you do not get in trouble and you don’t experience regrets later on. In that “safety” you don’t live Life. That is the price. Nevertheless, the issue with the mind remains. The unobserved conditioning is there. It may leak little by little.

    Dinesh, Congratulations! You are ahead of the game in observing your mind. You realize what is happening. You realize that many times these thoughts could be repeated and we cannot stop them. You realize that these thoughts many times, make us “do” things. A person suffering OCD (Obsessive Compulsion Disorder) is a good example. Repetitive thoughts will force the person to perform a task that the mind believes to be safe or necessary. There is a specific number of times that a repetitive action or “tic” needs to be performed. Because that person is unaware, that person is a prisoner of the mind.

    The answer of your question resides in living in feelings rather than the mind.
    That is another reason why BK meditation stresses feelings of love for Baba. Even though, “Baba” is not an experience for many. They merely visualize him and make up a circumstance to feel “love” so they can get out of the mind and its current trend of thoughts.

    My friend Mathias told me that the mind is a “prisoner” of time. It cannot perceive the small changes in Life. Even though, there is continual change; the mind does not see that. The mind is “BORED” or stuck in time. It is as if the mind is stuck with a picture which does not allow us to APPRECIATE the movie of Life.

    When we are sitting comfortably appreciating our Life (new form of meditation) by becoming AWARE of all the experiences that we can experience within our body in the “now”: From moving our legs and walking to breathing at ease and peace; when there is a feeling of appreciation as we continue on living, that “feeling good” dispels the dictatorship of our mind. This is not a “trick” unless you purposely “practice” to “feel appreciative.” The experience reside in you and not in someone else’s appearance or “remembrance.”

    Many times, we could be in a place infested with recurrent thoughts. We will catch those. The easiest way to finish that situation, is to get out, to go for a walk outside and OBSERVE the difference once we come back.

    We are surrounded by the energy of thoughts from different sources. We just need to be AWARE of those rather than call them “MY THOUGHTS” or try to figure out where they come from? Who originates them? What is the purpose of those thought? Etc. That intellectual nonsense is only noise of the mind, for the mind will never “know” the answers through experience. It can only have BELIEFS.

    As our FEELINGS take over our BEING, then the mind will move into a second plane.

    At this time, the minds of most people; are the masters. They can only display conditioning and regurgitate what has been “learned” to comply with that role. That is why, mental diseases of all sorts are affecting many at this time.

    Thinking kills your feelings. We cannot APPRECIATE and ENJOY Life unless our feelings are alive.

    For the common good.

    • Dinesh Chawla 8:24 AM on January 4, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Ahnanda, thank you so much for responding to my question bro. I remember doing one meditation pratice where we had to lie down and relax and thank each and every part of your body, starting from feet till head. And then in between create a feeling of “YES, YES, YES…”. I have done that only once till now. But it feels awesome for a very long time after that. 🙂 Thanks again bro 🙂


      • Dinesh C 7:12 AM on January 7, 2018 Permalink | Reply

        Well, I came again to share one more thing that I have been observing, the mind actually ends up creating a fictitious story within itself, a story for far beyond future, and if the observer doesn’t know that it’s from the mind, he simply ends up following the mind, without even thinking whether he should follow his mind or not. That’s what has been happening with me you know, I kept on following my mind, always trying to make its stories as a true thing, but never could, because the drama is already made. Now I understand to some extent what’s the meaning of Ahnanda’s statement where he says, “When drama is there, you are not there, and when you are there, drama is not!” AM I right Ahnanda! 🙂


        • avyakt7- New Generation 9:20 AM on January 10, 2018 Permalink | Reply

          The mind is like another person giving us advice on what to DO or believe. We identify with the mind as “Me.” The mind seems familiar to us for it is a repository of conditioning and past experiences.
          There are many ways of interpreting “when the Drama is there, you are not there, and when you are there, Drama is not.” Yours is a valid one. What matters is to understand through our experiences and not to the use our mind/intellect to deduct a meaning.


          • Dinesh Chawla 10:00 AM on January 11, 2018 Permalink | Reply

            Yes Ahnanda, I totally agree with you, as you say, only through experience I am able to understand just the 5 to 10% of what all things you have been writing on your blogs. Thanks bro 🙂


  • avyakt7- New Generation 10:20 AM on December 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Remember ME alone 

    In Brahma Kumaris’ Sakar Murli there is a phrase that although spoken frequently, it is misunderstood. “Remember me alone.”

    Brahma Kumaris offers “shortcuts” to deal with the mind. Brahma Kumaris is ultimately from my experience, a path to try to transcend the mind.

    One of the “methods” used is remembrance also known as “yoga.”
    The mind could bring thoughts which if not observed, could change the mood of a person. We could have so many thoughts that could even make our life hard to live. How do we deal with that? Remembrance is the BK answer. For in that method rather than BEING a DETACHED OBSERVER of those thoughts, we need to change them into something else: Visualize Baba in the subtle region. Visualize ShivBaba in Parandham. Use your mind to create another setting. Use your feelings (love to Baba) to make that experience into a “blissful one.”

    Without a doubt, it is a method to deal with unwanted thinking. But at the same time, there is control of the situation by this “I” who is not willing to OBSERVE and LEARN but it is only concerned to change things momentarily. That is why, to have “yoga” is never ending. A mental process with made up feelings, is a palliative solution.

    We cannot BE a DETACHED OBSERVER and at the same time try to CONTROL things in our inner world.

    What are you going to remember? What is the remember me alone?
    It is an idea, a mental construct of what God is or should be. For others, it is a re-creation of some past experience. Some subtle experience they had. Yet for others, it is about some “future” experience in the Golden age, etc.
    OBSERVE that those types of remembrances are only about the mind (going to the past or the future but never to BE present.)

    That type of method is like watching the same movie over and over again to escape from the menace of the mind.
    In a nutshell, REMEMBRANCE is a trick to deal with the tiring mind. CONTROL is artificially made, by changing the thoughts once we become AWARE, thus; the importance of REMEMBER BABA ALONE ALL THE TIME- for most are UNAWARE of the mind.

    In the AVYAKT Murlis, BapDada used the words ”Detached Observer.” There is no such a thing in the Sakar Murlis.
    To BE a detached observer, the mind should BE as it IS. OBSERVE it. It is not YOU creating that mental “show.” Once we become identified with that thought of being “mine,” there is no longer observation.
    A way to describe that observation, is by saying: REMEMBER “ME” ALONE.

    When we are centered in BEING there is no ME, but we ARE AWARE. THAT AWARENESS IS DETACHED, thus a DETACHED OBSERVER.

    In a nutshell: “Remember me alone” as understood by the majority of BKs, will not allow us to OBSERVE and Learn about our inner world.
    “Remember me alone” as understood by the majority of BKs, is not consistent with BEING a DETACHED OBSERVER.

    In my experience, to “REMEMBER ME ALONE” could be more closely put in words if we follow Gurdjieff teaching of “Self-remembering;” however; SELF is not truly there. In a sense it is INNER AWARENESS.
    There is a CENTER which is called as “self.” Through that center, there is OBSERVATION. Thus, a detached observer.

    Is the BK teaching of “remembering me alone” of the Sakar Murlis, “wrong”?
    There are not “right” answers, but your state of consciousness will dictate when something rings a bell for you. The BK path of the Sakar Murlis, is a starting point for a seeker. The Avyakt Murlis, is the next step in the BK path.

    For the common good.

    • Dinesh Chawla 10:52 AM on December 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Ahnanda, well I just wanted to share my experience of Vipassana meditation, there are quite long moments where the mind brings and UTTERLY GARBAGE thoughts and visualizations. Total nonsense, if I would not have learned to watch the mind, I would have been at a mental hospital, thanks to “ME” the watcher of mind 🙂 But why sometimes that thinking which we observe overpowers “ME” and I end up doing something I didn’t want to and realize it later and after that you know the story of regrets and self guilt 😦 Can u please throw some light on this bro, PLEASE.

      Another thing that comes from my BK experience is that they tell u to be detached observer of the drama happening outside more, watch the role of others, don’t judge or involve the role of others, and not more about watch the GARBAGE running inside 🙂

      But sometimes watching the mind is the most difficult thing man 🙂 and by the way I have heard Gurdjieff’s name a lot from Osho 🙂


  • avyakt7- New Generation 9:38 PM on December 20, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    The search for “truth” in BK Gyan 

    Many followers of Brahma Kumaris are looking for “truth,” that is what “knowledge” (gyan) brings to them.
    The process of de-condition from mainstream Scientific based knowledge into Brahma Kumaris knowledge is an interesting phase, which is typically unobserved by followers.

    The key element is to observe how our “truth” could change from one side to the other, nevertheless; “truth” is never found. It remains as a belief.

    Is linear time factual? Is cyclical time what really exists? Is predestination the “truth” or perhaps it is “free will”? Does God exist?
    If I am a soul, how is it that I feel to be a body?

    Debates and “proofs” of the above or supportive authoritative statements, are part of the “search.”
    However, in Life and self-transformation, none of that stuff is worth a banana peel.

    The mind looks for “truth” and “truth” is not a paragraph to be recited or some sort of statement.
    In Life, there is no “right or wrong.” In Life, there is no “getting ahead.” In Life, there is no rush to get somewhere. In Life, there is no destination to reach. However, for the mind all of those things are important.

    Because the mind is momentarily satisfied with some argument, we believe that we found “truth.”
    We did not.

    Truth is in BEING. BEING happy does not depend on some action or method to follow. BEING fulfilled in Life, is not dependent on some philosophy or scientific idea.

    Life presents itself as a process. There is no completion.
    To reach the “Golden age” may be the  BK “aim and objective” for an ambitious mind;  but you can only BE in the Golden age, if you were there before, in the past. Do we see that?  If you were there, Life will make it happen again.
    What is the effort then? The “effort” is for those who weren’t there, but no matter what effort is done by them, they will not go there.
    Our path has already been walked many times. We don’t remember it.
    “You” cannot be in the Golden age. “You” will not remember. “You” will not be “you.” Do we see that? 
    But yet, we indulge ourselves in making plans about the future in the afterlife.
    That is daydreaming. Though, it is a good way to distract the mind from the reality of the “now.”

    The rush to get into the “Golden age” (“now or never”) is only a tool for motivation. However, it is used many times to inflict guilt and shame in followers. Fear of “failure” of not getting there, is making their “now” into a miserable experience.

    Everyday in Life, there is a lesson on the art of appreciation.
    We are continuously changing. That appreciation “now” is a powerful ingredient to bring happiness, contentment “now.” Appreciation is not an ideal or philosophy.

    Nevertheless, we allow the mind to bring doubts and learned conditionings from scientific research or BK gyan or some other philosophy, so enjoyment of the present moment is gone.

    It is that lack of fulfillment of BEING the one that will drive us to search for “answers,” although the questions that we come up with, are completely conditioned. We believe that Life, the Universe work according to our understanding.
    That is “proof” of our tremendous ego.

    What would happen if Life is found in other planets?
    That means the automatic destruction of all religious beliefs, and scientific understanding of Life.
    That is how feeble the ideals/beliefs of the mind are. It is easier to say : “There is no other Life form but only us in the Universe” although, we do not know.

    However, for the one BEING in fulfillment, whether Life is found in other planets or not, is of no consequence.
    BEING is beyond any ideas of the mind, here is where “true” spirituality resides, away from the beliefs of the mind.

    For the common good.

    • Christopher Joseph 9:49 AM on December 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Sweet Ahnanda,I truly understand and appreciate your point of view.What does it mean when you mentioned about one BEING in fulfilment 🤔Does this being knows how it came into existence?has it undergone an EXPERIENCE🤔and are there such kind of beings living on this planet and have you experienced the feeling of a fulfilment 🤔and “Is it possible to achieve total fulfilment without knowing how this fulfilled being came into existence 😊


    • avyakt7- New Generation 10:24 AM on December 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Fulfillment is not an achievement. It is not something that “I have to do to get it.” Fulfillment comes. I could say it comes to “you” but then you could ask, how it comes to me? what can i do to make it quicker? How do I know if that is fulfillment? Do you know any other BEINGS in fulfillment? What is the experience like to be fulfilled? I can go on…. I think you get my point.
      It will come when it has to. In the meantime, enjoy your experience as it is. 🙂


  • avyakt7- New Generation 10:06 AM on December 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Question on responsibility of sorrow of others. 

    “How much are we responsible for the sorrow of souls in connection with us? BKs believe that “we are not responsible for the unhappiness and sorrow of other people, it’s just their creation”. At the same time, others are also not responsible for our sorrow and unhappiness!! Can you PLEASE take this subject for one article in upcoming week.
    My second question is a small and direct question, the path of BKism has no way to experience “No-Mind” and “No-I”?? Ego can’t be dissolved with Shivbaba?”

    Thank you for your questions.
    The word “responsible” is a word that we have learned in the “Office world.” We are responsible for educating our children, we are responsible for our actions in society, etc. But at the same time, we know about PREDESTINATION.
    Then, who is responsible?

    The “office world” does not know about PREDESTINATION. They just know about “free-will” thus, to be “responsible” exists there. It is interesting that BK borrows many words from the “Office world” which truly does not apply to PREDESTINATION. They may do it for the sake of understanding, which many times turns into misunderstanding. Something like: ” You have free will to DO something, but once it is DONE, it is the DRAMA… and that will repeat…”  

    My direct answer is: Does it matter? You feel sorrow. Look at it. Acknowledge it. Embrace it. Learn from it. Do you feel that we are all ONE? Then what you DO to others, you DO it to yourself.
    Perhaps, you do not feel that we are ONE. Then, try to take advantage of others. Learn from that experience. Your Life will be a lesson.
    So, you are not AWARE enough to learn from your own Life… then “knowledge” comes to the rescue. Let me teach you about KARMA. You will be afraid of it. Your DOING will be restricted to your thought of DOING things “right” according to your understanding or the understanding of others. Acting this way appears to BE safe, although you ARE not the image of WISDOM but the image of cheap imitation as your ACTIONS (DOING) are carefully thought out. You are condemned to live in your head, with your ego telling you what to DO according to the understanding of the conditioning that you have received.

    “Responsible”…. Let me smile at that word… 🙂 Responsible brings irresponsible.

    Now on your second question. Observe how you have distorted what I said in the previous article. I wrote “No-mind” does not exist in the BK vocabulary.” And then you add “experience” and bring “ShivBaba” into the picture.
    So you want me to tell you if ego cannot be dissolved throuhg ShivBaba?
    Then I ask you: How do we know that what we experience is ShivBaba? Then, we go back to the repeated example in my last article.
    “I am a soul.” “ShivBaba is my father.”  Repeat the mantra until it sinks in the mind. No experience.

    Now, do you see why I repeat the same examples?
    If I say: “I have not experienced that my ego gets reduced through yoga with ShivBaba” then others will say, that they have experienced that. Who is who to say when ego gets reduced when we are not aware when ego increases?
    Direct answers such as “Yes” or No” are so deceiving, when you have not experienced something and you just want an answer for the sake of being “RIGHT.”

    Spiritually is not about BEING “right or wrong.” So what is all about?
    That… “You” will need to find out yourself.

    For the common good.

    • Dinesh Chawla 1:54 AM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you so much Ahnanda for responding to these questions. I somehow realize that if “Enligtment” or “Self realization” is for individual and no one else can give me, then there no meaning in asking so many questions and reading so many books! So I won’t be asking too many questions henceforth, I recall you writing in one article that “if there is a beatiful sun rise or sun set scene, rather than enjoying it, we ask questions on sun!”, in the same way rather than asking questions on words, I should enjoy reading and reflecting on those words! 🙂
      Another thing I wanted to say here is that I value BKs for one main thing and that is the realization of “I am not the mind”, becuase it happened only becuase of the belief given by the BK that Mind is the part of the soul, I am the soul, so I am the mind itself 🙂 Thanks Om shanti 🙂


      • avyakt7- New Generation 7:45 AM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Dinesh: Enjoy your Life as it is, as the experience arrives without thoughts of comparing with others or hopes of
        making this experience “better in the future.”
        Enjoy the now as it is. Likewise, let others enjoy their version of happiness, for whatever that may be. If you take something out of these hundreds of writings, let this 5 or 6 lines be the main point. Thanks for BEING there.


        • Dinesh 8:32 AM on December 17, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          Yes Ahnanda…thank you so much bro…☺


  • avyakt7- New Generation 6:18 PM on December 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    “Practice” dulls the mind 

    When a person is ready for a change, because he wants to be “better” or “enlightened” or perhaps, he wants to find “God,” that point in their life is the beginning of their search for meaning. Again, it is the BEGINNING. The end is to find himself in order to find no-self. Just because I shared that, it doesn’t mean that “you know.” We only know if there is experience. There are no methods to get there. Life itself will bring the necessary experiences, some may say, it is “God” helping or giving those experiences.  That does not matter. What matters is to know through experience. To be honest with that.
    Here is another “spoiler:” When “I” find myself through “no-self,” there is no difference between “I” and “God.” There is no difference between “I” and Life.

    Most individuals are interested in having “answers,” in the beginning stage.
    Those “answers” are like beliefs. Those “answers” are not part of their consciousness, those are not experiential.
    It doesn’t matter whether the answer is “right or wrong.” It does not matter a bit; however, for someone living in the mind, those answers are all that matter.

    Ahnanda recalls that one day (many years ago) my sister came home and asked my father and “I”: “Who are you?” Both of us gave many known “correct answers” such as: spirits, sons of god, human beings, etc.
    Her answer was: “you are a soul.” She thought she knew. She taught us something that she learned someplace to take us away from our “ignorance.”
    But that label (soul) has no experience within it. It is truly an empty word.

    Our conditioning is that intellectual knowledge means to “know.”

    What is a soul? What does it feel to be a soul? How can “I” experience that feeling? What are the steps, the methods to get there?
    All of those questions are “pure” conditioning. Nevertheless, we want the “answers,” but, the meaning of “soul” remains elusive for those who only have the belief of that word spoken by some “higher authority.”

    Avyakt7-NG recalls attending a Brahma Kumaris gathering few years ago, with a well-known senior sister. Avyakt7 asked her: “How do we know if what we are experiencing is the soul?” Her answer was: “ You need more soul conscious practice.”
    It is a circular answer for an intelligent but meaningless question. Nevertheless, that answer was supposed to give me the incentive to “practice” back then. So, it was a politically correct answer, even though meaningless!

    At that time, Avyakt7 couldn’t understand the meaning of the mind; that is not the definition or the concept, but the experiential meaning, the “knowing.”
    Now, Ahnanda can see that all of those words, are there to distract the mind from looking inwards, from finding who am “I.”

    This finding has no way to be written in words.
    Looking inwards cannot have the restriction of some “method.” There is no path to get there, because there is no place to go.
    To be comfortable with who “I am” is the consequence of knowing who I am. That feeling, that BEING is the “answer.”

    Life has no questions nor answers. Only the mind has those.

    The BK path was giving me “answers” to keep the mind at ease. That path was giving me the chance to jump off the mind, if I had the awareness.

    “Yoga of the mind” is experienced in no-mind, but for someone absorbed in the mind, there is no way to observe beyond that. “No-mind” does not exist in the BK vocabulary.

    It is said “practice makes perfect,” but continuous practice dulls the mind. What is the purpose of repeating a mantra or a “spiritual practice,” everyday? To dull the mind to get out of it. That is the unspoken “theory” of that “practice.”

    Enjoyment is in no-mind and that, harmonizes the mind. We can do something many times as long as we enjoy it. That is not “practice.”
    Enjoyment is the opposite of “practice.” “Spirituality” is in enjoyment, never in “practice.”

    For the common good.

    • Dinesh Chawla 1:35 AM on December 7, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Ahnanda, in your many articles, I observe that a few same experiences are being said in a different way with a different context, well that can be your awesome way of sharing the experience with us, and thanks a lot for that bro. Well, slowly slowly, this observation is becoming a part in my day to day life and it’s really a beautiful experience, because it has started developing a stage of a detached observer of my own drama of life 😀
      Well, though you have explained how and why are we looking for answer, can you please share your viewpoint which mostly acts as answer for me for the following two questions that are related to my experience of being an Adhar Kumar with BKs in past 🙂

      How much are we responsible for the sorrow of souls in connection with us? BKs believe that “we are not responsible for the unhappiness and sorrow of other people, it’s just their creation”. At the same time, others are also not responsible for our sorrow and unhappiness!! Can you PLEASE take this subject for one article in upcoming week, either here or on your blog. Please bro, thanks 🙂
      My second question is a small and direct question, the path of BKism has no way to experience “No-Mind” and “No-I”?? Ego can’t be dissolved with Shivbaba?

      PLEASE share your viewpoint on these questions, and thanks again, OM SHANTI 🙂


  • avyakt7- New Generation 4:30 AM on November 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    The typical BK questions: Karma, Drama, Cycle of time. 

    Back from vacation! There will be some changes in this blog.
    Avyakt7-NG will be writing an article once a week. Typically, on a Thursday. As time goes by, there will be further changes in the way Avyakt7-NG will share to BK or Ex-BK readers.

    Avyakt7-NG encourages you to send your questions. Please make those questions to the point and hopefully, for the “common good” rather than personal issues.

    Lakshmipriya sent her question(s) here:
    In your first question: If “I” look honestly, If “I” suffer from a disease, no words or mental console could help me. The point is that there is no “reason” that could take “my” suffering away. Yes, “karma” is a “reason.” It could be true, but many times in our current life times we do not see the “why” we have to settle or “pay” for something that we do not even remember that “we did” in a past life. On the other hand, BK knowledge states that there is predestination. That means there was no way out. We had to go through that experience. Period.
    Whatever it is happening, it IS. Deal with it, knowing that experiences have a duration and then, they will go away. This is not a belief. Enjoyment should be there out of any Life experience, for every experience never comes by itself, there is a thread of other experiences along with it, worth enjoying them.

    Question #2: If you understand the Drama well, you will see that there is NOTHING that could be labeled as “bad,” or “good.” It is what it IS and for a limited time. 

    Question#3: The word “actor” imply many things. An actor “knows” (has the experience) of being an actor. Most human beings do not. For most, we feel that it is “I.” That is our consciousness. Lakshmipriya: Your keywords are: “This understanding, helps me.” Avyakt7-NG shares that mental understanding does not change BEING. It only puts a façade to mentally “accept” the issue. However, that stage is necessary to go beyond the trap of the mind.

    In one of Avyakt7’s trips to India as a BK, Avyakt7 went to Jodphur by himself.
    It is a different “reality” there, than being sheltered in Madhuban. Avyakt7 remembers seeing a dog walking down the street. The dog was limping. The dog was very dirty and it seemed as it had many diseases. The dog most likely, did not have a home. No food waiting. However, the dog was living Life. There is no “idea” of committing “suicide.” That dog was free from the mind. There is no “reason” needed to comfort the “suffering” of the dog, for the dog does not have that duality in the mind. On the other hand, humans are looking for “reasons” which they call “knowledge.” Those are pacifiers for someone living in the mind.

    The dog may “instinctively” KNOW that the “medicine is to go through the experience itself. Not to try to escape it. Light is at the end of that tunnel.”

    Hope that answered your questions.
    At the same time, this answers Christopher Joseph’s inquiry about “karma.”

    Now, on the question by Dinesh here:
    Ahnanda had the privilege to connect with his friend, Mathias while in Peru. Ahnanda shared with Mathias that Ahnanda’s sharing of “no-I” was misunderstood. Mathias responded that “ That [No-I] hurts them.” Also, he mentioned about “taking the pulse of others before sharing” without using those BK words.
    Therefore: When we experience “no-I” there is no cycle of time.
    When we experience “I” we are afraid of the cycle of time. When we “intellectually know” about the cycle of time and we believe it, while being only conscious of the “I,” there will be an inner war, an inner fight, a dissonance for the belief goes against our consciousness of “I have free will.”
    Thus, knowing that what will you DO? 🙂

    For the common good.

    • Lakshmipriya Nagarajan 6:04 AM on November 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      To look myself honestly I require the knowledge of truth. Isn’t it brother?. If the right answer is not given to the mind, the mind is going to keep on chatter. Over a period of time, I do not require to give any reason to the mind as the questioning ceases on this issue as I experience the truth. I understand “no-I” as “no ego”, no acquired sanskars. Otherwise embodied soul will have mind. And as I become close to “being”, probably i will be harmonizing the thought and actions. Yes, the suffering of body can not be stopped but the amplification of suffering caused by the mind’s expansion can be stopped by applying the powerful brake of knowledge. Isn’t it?

      Don’t I have the power to accept to go beyond the trap of mind. By using this power at right time in a right way many times, I can become the embodiment of that power. This will bring me to a stage of no-I. Isn’t it? In order to bring this “power to accept” in action, I need some knowledge points such as drama is accurate in operating as per philosophy of Karma, it is beneficial in bringing me to my original self. Everyone is actor playing their perfect role in the drama so on so forth…


      • avyakt7- New Generation 9:27 AM on November 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        As far as my experience, honesty is not related with some external idea of what “truth” should be. Honesty is to know what truly is going on inside and acknowledge it. As you mentioned, “knowledge” stops the amplification of suffering which comes from the mind. But it is only temporarily, for a few days; then the mind needs the same or higher quantity of that “fix.” This is the “reason” why in BK there is a need to listen to the Murli everyday. We “understand but we forget.” Nevertheless, even though the amplification of the sound could be stopped for a few days… the sound is still there. We want to get rid of it “now,” but that is not in the Drama…

        “No-I” is not an idea. It is an experience. Until there is experience, there can only be mind made speculations on how to “arrive to it,” how to “get it for me,” how to achieve it… All of that is an extension of the “I.”

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    • Gayathri 11:52 AM on November 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      There are many levels of understanding/ interpreting Baba’s words.

      Baba says, “The ghost of attachment destroys all truth, everything”.

      Attachment comes from the word, ‘mine’. When we are not very sure who “I” am, we tend to assume our physical body, physical relationships, and physical belongings to be ‘mine’/ ours.

      Recently we were churning the topic, “Drama”. Though we may consider ourselves to be a soul, even the soul can not claim its qualities/ sanskars as its own because the soul is ONLY a ‘container’ for the 84 or so roles that are destined to be played through that particular soul. Every thought, word, and action of the soul is already destined to happen in a particular sequence, in a particular way which can not be changed even minutely.

      It is not just the body that we possess, even the roles that are being played through us are not OURS in the sense we have no control over them, we can not order and get them do things according to our wish.

      The real “I” is just an observer, a catalyst… When we can not even separate the real “I” from the role that is being played through us, when we confuse our role to be the real “I”, how real could be the ‘mine’?

      Considering the ‘role’ as the “I” it self is a myth/ a ghost, and the ‘mine’, the attachment is a ‘ghost’ that makes us believe that we own certain people and objects. Our eyes deceive us a lot. 🙂 What we usually consider as ‘mine’, the attachment, destroys all the truth.

      Gayathri ben.


      • ahnanda 3:27 PM on December 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        “Attachment comes from the word, ‘mine’. ”
        Attachment is not a word. Words are merely pointers. Understanding of words is not necessary. What is important is to look at the pointers and find those in ourselves. That requires honesty, observation, awareness… not “knowledge.” Churning has no consequence but it is a distraction for the mind. We could come up with wonderful ideas and never look at the self with honesty.
        The ultimate attachment is to the self, but attachment is not the issue once we discover that what we call self, is always changing. The mind is stuck with a picture, when Life is a movie. 🙂


    • Christopher joseph 5:51 AM on December 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Very rightly said Ahnanda.Esp.the example of the dog whether there is light at the end of the tunnel or no light should not make a we should live with zero expectation. THE NON BEING.😊Still my mind Questions me as to how I came into being in the present environment (in the absence of karma)🤔😊


      • ahnanda 4:32 PM on December 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        As we know, the way to calm the mind is to give it some “reason.” Make up or get convinced with whatever “reason” you like … and then BELIEVE it. That is all! 🙂


    • Dinesh C 11:58 PM on December 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      ok Hi Ahnanda, thanks a lot bro for sharing that information with us from your friend Mithias, I feel what they said is actually true, but can you please briefly tell us in what way the “No-I” is hurting us? Because if I share what I ended up doing after “Knowing” this “No-I” is that I tried applying it at the level of intellect again, though you told me that the “No-I” simply happens, there is no DOING involved in this experience.
      Regarding knowing the pulse of the other being before sharing this experience of N0-I, I have mostly shared some of my life experiences here in an open way, even about my sexuality, and experience of what happened during me being an Adhar Kumar for 6 years, in breif way! so actually to some extent you know my pulse Ahnanda! well I am just saying about what I understand from my experience… so thanks again 🙂


      • ahnanda 4:39 PM on December 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Most humans are experiencing the “I.” Brahma Kumaris “knowledge” is supportive of it. So is Christianity and most mainstream religions.
        To say : The “I” doesn’t exist. “You” are not the one controlling your Life. It is perplexing, when people are interested in becoming SOMEONE in Life and the after life. Dinesh: You try many things but it is at the intellectual level. “Trying” is “I.”
        Then the questions you may have is: Then, How do “I” improve? Again, trapped in the “I.”
        There are many things in Life the mind cannot understand for understanding comes through experience, not trough intellectual talk… 🙂
        Awareness, consciousness, observation… That is all is needed, but when we are not there, we may need to DO something to “improve.’ Thus, wherever you are, is good. Enjoy it!


    • Lakshmipriya Nagarajan 2:56 AM on December 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      yes brother, any point of knowledge if not coming into experience, it is just understanding. Yes, I need the support of murli to maintain silence in the mind. I need murli everyday as a tonic to infuse the positive thoughts in the mind otherwise it goes out of control. I do not even able to observe me as I end up with action. Murli churning helps to observe me and act according to Shrimath. For sure, I would say, that I started observing me, accept the emotions, and try to let go of it. This blog helped me a lot to churn murli in different way..Thanks a lot.


      • ahnanda 10:32 AM on December 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Lakshmipriya: Observe how you interpret “my” words according to your experiences and conditionings. You are not the only one. I am definitely learning from that. At the end, what matters is that all of these writings are “helpful to you.” It is interesting to note, that for others; these writings are not helpful at all… 🙂
        Any one wants to ask WHY?
        It doesn’t matter. Any reason may be called “knowledge” but that label doesn’t make any difference for those feeling these writings to be unhelpful or helpful.


  • avyakt7- New Generation 7:49 AM on November 7, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: actors, , , , , , Gayathri, , , , ,   

    BEING does not change through intellectual understanding. 

    Gayathri wrote an article which she shared it here.
    In this article, she expresses her understanding of the Drama, the soul and the predestined roles; explained in her unique ways supported by her own experiences.
    I am appreciative of her sharing. It is a well written article.

    However, her second article here is my favorite. Why?
    It is “real.” Anyone could observe her words in our own selves. We have been conditioned to believe that “ I create my thoughts,” we go with that belief, even though, plain observation and awareness may convey otherwise. It requires “effort” to look without bias. She just shared a third article here, which is equally good.

    However, after understanding intellectually all of those wonderful things; ARE we detached observers, or simply happy enjoying the movie of Life?
    Then of what good is that ”understanding”?

    If we suffer a disease, we should be happy. Right? Didn’t Baba tell us to be happy by paying happily our “debts,” our karmic accounts?

    In a nutshell: What we DO is to fake what we truly feel. To add a few more days of fake intellectual happiness until the mind gets “needy” again. Then, it needs another fix of beliefs.

    Brahma Kumaris is the path of the mind (Raja Yoga.)
    Baba is giving “reasons,” “truths,” “explanations,” and even “churnings” of intelligent children with “good intellects” to satisfy the hunger of “knowledge” of the children.
    He is giving all of that because the “children” are trapped in their own minds.

    We are conditioned to believe in something. We are conditioned to believe that when we know the “truth,” that will save us, that will make us “special.”
    But we can only go as far as our conditioning permits.

    For instance, we “know” the Drama is predestined, but yet we believe that there is good and bad, right or wrong. We label people, situations, circumstances, accordingly.
    If the Drama is predestined how is it possible to label something as “bad”? It was necessary. “Beneficial.” Thus, Is a low status “bad”? Is the Iron age “bad”? 
    “Churn” about it. But if you ARE invested in a belief system, you cannot explore. You are limited by your conditioning.

    The mind creates the “I.”
    The “I” creates predestination and free will. Those words and their meaning only exist in the mind, not in Life.
    Are we “actors”? An actor is aware of being an actor by learning a script. We are not aware of being actors. We don’t learn scripts. We believe that we make them. We feel that what is happening is “real.” We feel that it is not a play. Then why lie to ourselves?

    To calm the mind and get out of our sorrow temporarily.
    We are looking for a way to escape our sorrow and disappointments in Life.

    We are willing to make this Life a martyrdom so in the “afterlife,” we could be someone “special.” That is how desperate we are.

    The medicine is to go through the experience itself. Not to try to escape it. Light is at the end of that tunnel. We need to walk to the other side. We may be afraid, we may be attached to our current situation, we may value the safety of the known (even though suffering) greater than the unknown.

    A Sakar Murli has said that “courage” is the predominant quality of a Deity soul.
    Be courageous. Everything and anything is bound to start and to finish. That is our experience. No need to add beliefs or intellectual theories.
    Courage is the quality which allows a person to BE despite the different types of weather. Life is that weather. The weather is seasonal. That is our experience. No beliefs are necessary.

    By covering our mind with beliefs and intellectual realizations, we may calm the mind; but never BEING.
    Whether we believe to be a soul, a spirit or a body is of no consequence.

    Enjoy the experience of living. The contrasts, the surprises, the challenges, etc. Whether it repeats eternally or not, is of no consequence at all. What matters is “Now.”
    “Now” is the only time when we can experience and enjoy Life. As mentioned before: Enjoyment and appreciation are “good” karma for all.

    For the common good.

    Until November 30th! 🙂

    • lakshmipriya 1:17 AM on November 8, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Dear brother,
      I read all your articles and i like it. There is a place in my heart that your writings are good and i should pay attention to it. I try to understand the depth of your writings. But, recently I could not feel comfortable and there is struggle in the mind to understand what you mean. I do not able to make it. Probably i have conditioned my mind for certain beliefs. Now, i want to get it clarified by writing my understandings to align with what you are writing. Kindly help me to understand.

      1) “If we suffer a disease, we should be happy. Right? Didn’t Baba tell us to be happy by paying happily our “debts,” our karmic accounts?”

      Earlier, If there is a disease, i used to think why for me? I used to envy on people who have good health. It is so funny if others are also getting the disease then, it was ok for me. Probably feeling of I am no less than others.

      Due to the understanding of Gyan, now I know, it has come to settle the accounts. I understand Drama is beneficial in this way as it operates according to the imperishable perfect law of karma. This understanding automatically puts full stop to the questions in the mind. As mind becomes healthy, it is easy to get through the disease. There used to be instances to think that i got this so i would have done something bad. Over a period of time, I relinquished myself out of the guilt and develop acceptance. I made the point to think what is in hand now to do about it. Be embodiment of solutions is my favourite.

      2) Is a low status “bad”? Is the Iron age “bad”?

      If i understand drama well, i won’t say it is bad but accurate.

      3) Are we “actors”? An actor is aware of being an actor by learning a script. We are not aware of being actors. We don’t learn scripts. We believe that we make them. We feel that what is happening is “real.” We feel that it is not a play. Then why lie to ourselves?

      Actors means there is no choice but to play the script. Though I do not know the script, i am destined to act which is already there in the script. If there is a freewill, then i will not be called as actor. So to understand me as actor is to play my roles as destined without attaching to that. Act, but be detached and attach to your original self. This understanding helps me to accept others as i know that they are acting in this way. This act is based on their consciousness throughout the drama and my interactions with them in the past.

      The medicine is to go through the experience itself. Not to try to escape it. Light is at the end of that tunnel.
      What do you mean by this brother?
      My understanding and dharana is,
      Through the understanding of the perfect actor and co-actors in this drama of life, i am able to give attention to maintain my original status. There is no enmity, judgmental feelings on others.

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      • Christopher joseph 7:45 AM on November 29, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Sweet Avyakt7-NG .waiting for your return to hear your experience of enjoyment and appreciation ( during your absence.)There are some beliefs which cannot be erased like “karma”😊Hoping to gain more knowledge from your Experiences 😊so waiting to experience reading about your experiences which is a part of my enjoyment. 🤔
        Thank you in advance 😊…November 29th.


  • avyakt7- New Generation 8:29 AM on November 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , , , living in the mind, nothing new,   

    Life is about the complete experience. 

    When we rationalize Life, that is; when we live in the mind, we typically “choose” one side of the range of the experience and reject the other.
    For example, the experience of being a “sinner” will bring the experience of being a “saint.” We may reject “sinner” but “saint” is only part of the complete experience. Thus, I am a sinner or a saint? That is the question of the conditioned mind. In “reality,” sinner nor saint exist (for some consciousness) as both are part of the total experience. However, sinner and saint exist, they are “realities”  for other type of consciousness.

    Likewise,  because we experience “life,” we will experience “death.” For some consciousness, there is no death. Just like the Deities in the “Golden Age,” experienced according to BK philosophy. There is reincarnation for them. For us, that is only a belief for we are not in that consciousness.

    For Avyakt7-NG, it does not matter whether there is reincarnation or not. “I” am never the same. Who will reincarnate?  We want to know which “philosophy” is “right or wrong,” believe what is “right,” but that does not matter at all, if there is no consciousness behind it.
    There is no single experience  in Life which is “better” than another. It is just a complementary, fleeting experience.
    This is an unlimited vision. 

    In a limited vision, we are bound by our own “choices.” We select and reject. We fight to keep our selection not seeing that Life has its own movement. Therefore, there is suffering after the enjoyment of what we perceive to be a happy moment, a happy finding, a happy circumstance, etc. All of that is bound to change.
    This has been misinterpreted as: ” It is better not to have desires. It is better not to be happy since suffering will come by…” Again, this is a gross misinterpretation of  someone living in logic, reason, the mind. Life does not move under the constraint of logic and reasoning, but our society pretends to do it, although it does not.

    Enjoy every experience, for it is unique. 

    Remember when “you” were a 6-year-old? This is inaccurate, for “you” (now) were not that one before. All that mattered at that time was to experience Life. The intellectual stuff was added later. That in return gave us a persona, an identity of separation. It was necessary to function in our society, but as we continued on with the conditioning, we forgot our other side, the “no-I,” which does not think about such matters.
    We cannot control our lives according to our thoughts. If we try to control, we will never live.
    Society requires the “I.” Life does not. When you go to sleep every night, there is no certainty that “you” will wake up. Where are you during that time?
    Many have died during their sleep. Our conditioning is that we will wake up again in the safety of our bedroom, but that is just a thought, that we believe in.
    To deal with that uncertainty, our minds have created religious beliefs and all sorts of “life insurance” so we could continue on in the afterlife.
    Those are tricks to mitigate the anxiety of not being “I,” that is fear of BEING “No-I.”

    The paradox is that even though mentally we know that “there is nothing new,” (As per BK belief) experientially, everything is new for us.
    That is the bridge that we have to cross and see that what truly matters is what our consciousness perceives, not what the mind is able to understand. Learning happens when we move according to our consciousness. Dishonesty happens when we move according to the “right” belief. We will do and say what we don’t feel.

    We have been conditioned in so many ways. That 6-year-old does not know about that conditioning that we may understand now through our own experience.
    So, is it “better” to be ignorant then, like a dog?
    There is no “better.” Life is only offering us different experiences. A self-realized individual will know both sides of the coin through their own experience, and will see that this coin is “real” and at the same time is not real. The “I” makes the coin. Life does not know about any coins. That is only a human perception.

    Coincidences do not exist in Life. That label is a human invention meaning “I don’t know, but I will cover my ignorance with a nice label.”
    Life does not depend on me nor on you. It just happens, it is there: Breathing is there, eating, sleeping, etc. Enjoy the experience. Know it. Let it go through “you,” become AWARE of it when it is happening, for otherwise the mind, will “remember” that “I had that experience yesterday,” and the mind will make that unique experience  of “now” into something “old.”

    That is why it is said, that a new consciousness is in the experience of “no-mind,” for “no-I” is there. Knowing “I” and “no-I” you had the complete experience. “You” may be self-realized in the consciousness of both complementary experiences.

    What do I need to DO to get there? we may ask.
    Nothing. You could wait and live in some sort of a vacuum in fear as not to experience Life, for “you” will feel safe, or you could enjoy the ride. That may be “your” choice.   Whatever “your” choice, Enjoy it. That is the key. Know that it is OK to change with Life.

    For the common good.

    • Christopher joseph 10:41 AM on November 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Wow🤔This is the most convincing article I have ever read (no exaggeration) where my mind is blown and is taking time to re-assemble. I can’t say ‘wah drama’ for it is meaningless to me as the drama according to bk has no writer .But you are the writer of this article where thanks is not enough but you can feel the viberation of my love coming to you 😊that U may not know from where🤔🤔🤔😊🤚Enjoy your journey with no expectation…..Love U.😊


      • Dinesh C 6:36 AM on November 4, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        I like the way u say “Love U” to Ahnanda at the end of your reply. Hehehe 🙂


        • Christopher joseph 9:41 AM on November 5, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          Dear sweet brother in the no I state😊 saying Love U means nothing but my expression of gratitude 😊😊😊.I also told U (love you) in the previous article which U may have overlooked.I used to follow avyakt7 before his change to Ananda searching for the truth of bk.(e.g. 5000 years , repeat cycle.etc.etc)where I got not so convincing answers😊) but that was a required stage and is a part of my journey If not I wouldn’t have reached my present stage . I Like it when you spoke about existing before existence and outside the 3 world’s (egg shaped figure in bk gyan.😊😊) I have learnt/learning many good things in bk and still love to read the daily murli and extract what is good for me.Now a days I feel myself growing on my journey, overcoming obstacles in the easiest way possible not forgetting the invisible parasite of EGO clinging to me where ever I go🤔😊Honestly speaking I’m not interested in satyug /becoming diety/Baap ka khazana etc.etc. as I am sick of all that crap😣I am satisfied with this Life enjoyed/suffered enough and am not interested in this (NOT SO INTERESTING DRAMA) as Gayatri ben put it.😊😊…Just curious to know as to HOW I CAME INTO EXISTENCE 🤔 🤔 when I see the beauty of nature and it’s precision a thought comes that there has to be an intelligent designer behind all these things. ( a computer CANNOT assemble on its own unless there is an intelligent designer 🤔🤔?? and our human body is more sophisticated than the most sophisticated computer.😊and finally going into non existence doesn’t matter as there wouldn’t be a curious mind to desire anything…🤔🤔🤔for me that, is the NO I state 😊😊😊…/ Have a desire free and egoless journey and wish me the same. Also waiting for Anandas juicy carrots which makes my journey interesting…..Love U too 😊😊😊


          • Dinesh C 11:44 AM on November 5, 2017 Permalink | Reply

            Best to you Joseph, your so many similes in every reply remind me of the Romeo from Romeo and Juliet, wish you all the best.
            HOW I CAME INTO EXISTENCE, My experience says that silence can give you an answer for this. You know what silence I am talking about! 🙂
            And just a question from my side, if there is a designer of this existence, who designed that designer of the existence??
            Perhaps you will have to start one more journey to find the designer of the designer! And if you don’t find the designer of the designer!! you may conclude that the design of the designer may not have a designer!! Don’t get confused because of usage of so many “Designer” words 😛


            • Christopher joseph 1:18 PM on November 5, 2017 Permalink | Reply

              Sweet brother, is the silence you are talking about give you the answer as to how you came into existence🤔? as I am curious to know.For me being Non existent will end my curiosity (I think that is the silence U R talking about😊for it doesn’t matter to being Non existent in a way is liberation from life which is my highest priority. 😊( not liberation in life bk talks about as you have face birth and ‘re-birth forever.🤔😊


              • Dinesh C 12:46 AM on November 7, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                Answers used to matter so much in the period before I came in contact with Ahnanda and Osho, and answers were important even after I started exploring both of them from serious point of view, but now the experience of those answers is what I am seeking, although the AWARENESS while going through those experiences is still lacking 🙂
                One more thing to say here, Ahnanda and Osho both are unique in theirs point of view, I was a stupid and a fool to consider them as similar or different 🙂
                Om shanti 🙂


                • Christopher joseph 1:02 AM on November 7, 2017 Permalink

                  You are neither a fool nor a stupid if you remember you came into existence as a pure and unbiased/ conscious being.🤔😊


  • avyakt7- New Generation 5:44 AM on October 31, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: aapsaman, Bapsaman, , , , , , ,   

    Question on the meaning of Bapsaman 

    Am I love ?…please tell me how to make that or feel it a reality. Do I have to be SOUL CONSCIOUS to Feel that I am love??? Also it is just impossible to become AAP SAMAN unless I have had the same /exact experiences you have had to bring you in your present state .Why does the Murli say you have to make others aap saman also baap saman???How do I go about it?

    There is no recipe for BEING Love. That is not something that a man can tell to another. Otherwise, only 1 book about becoming Love could have been necessary for the whole humanity, and there hasn’t been any yet, despite “best sellers.”
    Why did you add that it could be necessary to be soul conscious to be love?
    That has no meaning.
    If I say, “yes. It is necessary.” Your mind will be satisfied for that is an expected answer, but you will be unfulfilled. You will not know where to start.
    Love is for you to experience, when it comes in your path. This is not something to “achieve” or to “practice.” Just be AWARE when that happens.

    That mentality of trying to “achieve” something spiritual or some virtue, is what needs to go away, for that very same “effort” to achieve is the greatest obstacle in experiencing it.

    You have already an idea of what love should be. You want to achieve your idea of love and not allow for love to manifest to you according to what you ARE now.

    As you pointed out, you cannot be equal to me, unless you had the same experiences.
    Thus, when BapDada tells his children to “make others similar to you,” he hasn’t been specific, so it is up to every child to figure that one out. Perhaps it just means to make a BK out of others. Maybe not.
    The potential for that phrase to be an ego-booster for every BK child is there, as most will believe that they are the “sample and the example,” (paraphrasing another BapDada’s phrase) for others to follow.

    A BK child needs that (Kudos from Kudha) to be able to follow his ascetic Life style.

    Similarly, BapDada gives a “goal” for the child to achieve: Be “equal to me.” (Bapsaman.)
    Even though, he knows that every BK child is “numberwise.”(According to gyan.)
    Some BKs believe that BapDada means to be “equal in his virtues,” but for most BapDada’s virtues are only seen on a video or when they go to Madhuban and see BapDada live.
    It is in a relationship, when you see someone in action, when you could appreciate those “virtues.” However, that is the experience of few BKs.

    That is why the BK system relies on what a Dadi says or a senior, as they may have greater experience with BapDada.
    Of course, this is second hand knowledge. To talk about how loving BapDada is, will not change the way a BK child is. This BK child will try to copy the particular loving “action” that someone else described. Just so this child could be called “loving.”
    Nevertheless, before the action (DOING) there is BEING.

    BapDada is love.
    A BK child may not be love, thus his actions even though the same as BapDada’s, will not make the BK child into Love.

    Consequently, what truly matters is to be AWARE of who we ARE at every moment rather than “making effort” to copy someone else’s actions.

    The Murli besides “giving gyan,” is meant to increase the BK follower self-esteem. It is meant to praise the BK child and to build his self-esteem, by making distinctions and separations; although it will increase the follower’s ego. But that is not bad at all, for ego only decreases once it has reached the utmost increase in size.
    As mentioned before, the BK system does an excellent job in that “increase,” that is why; it is an important journey of some seeker’s path. It was for me.

    For the common good.

    • Christopher joseph 7:10 AM on October 31, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks for your love. And thanks for the knowledge of ( No I ) No I also makes me think of the beginning of my existence 🤔😊I didn’t have a choice to exist was there something or entity who wanted me the No I to become an I and exist or did I exist by coincidence 🤔 I have seen enough of this beautiful world and If the repeat cycle is true then there is nothing Unlimited. (&nothing new) so my priority is not to exist ever.Lets hope I didn’t exist by coincidence 🤔😊


    • Christopher joseph 7:35 PM on October 31, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Waiting patiently for next topic as I feel addicted to your inspiration 🤔😊……Love you😊


    • Gayathri 8:52 AM on November 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Dear divine family,
      Om shanti.

      Let us go a bit deep into the topic – “Who am I” ?

      “A soul.”- is the answer. 🙂

      They say, “Pahale Khud ko jaano, baad mey Khudaa ko jaano.” (Know about yourself first, and only then you may be able to know about God.) And i see the logic in that statement. It is like – we have to first learn to stand on our own feet properly before we could learn/ perform a dance.

      Ok, Shrimat says that every kalpa repeats itself identically and even a minute/ small change can not happen in the drama script. This drama has repeated itself infinite number of times and its script is fixed second by second…. agreed? Any questions? 🙂

      Shrimat says, “The part of 84 births is recorded in the soul.”

      Every soul, every element, has its role/ roles predetermined in this eternal drama, is n’t it?

      Even though we do not know what would happen in the next moment, actually there are no surprises, drama follows the karma theory meticulously and each and every moment in the drama has a firm basis, a concrete reason to unfold the scenes in a particular way.

      According to shrimat – For ex: All my roles for a kalpa have already been fixed, each and every thought that triggers my words and actions are fixed, all my relations and friends of every birth in a kalpa are fixed irrespective of whether i am aware of them or not.

      It is like I the soul am a cassette in which all my roles are recorded and when i am placed in a cassette player (body), my words and actions get expressed. Without a cassette player (body), i am dormant, can not act, and only when i take up a body according to the time in the drama script, do the roles that i have to play ‘get played through me’.

      A cassette player can not take the credit of the songs that are being played through it as once the cassette is removed, the song stops. And the ‘cassette’ can not take the credit for the song that is being played from it as it was an ’empty cassette’ before the song was recorded on it. And only when it is placed in a cassette player and when it is switched on, will the songs be heard from the cassette. And the cassette can not change the songs/ speeches that are recorded in it on its own.

      In the same way, the soul will not be able to change its role or its sanskars which are pre – recorded; the sanskars keep changing only according to the drama script and is not based on the person ‘making effort’ or not making effort as there are factors from the past which also add to the happenings of the present moment. And even those past actions were the result of the predestined drama. That is the reason why we see some very intense effort makers, despite decades of practising Raja yoga, failing miserably and a few other people getting quick results for their efforts.

      In short – we the souls have no control over the roles that are being played through us. Our roles go through various experiences which take us through the eternal journey of constantly changing sanskars.

      In other words, “I” am mechanically performing the same actions which “I” performed every kalpa and and am reaping the same fruits that are destined to happen. Yes, many times it feels as if we have taken a particular decision after meditating a lot about it… But if each moment in the drama is fixed, how could I have ever taken a ‘decision’ based on ‘my own’ judgement? Every so called judgement is predestined!

      Whenever sakar Baba or Avyakt Baba was questioned about some senior BK leaving his/ her body ‘abruptly’, Baba used to give the same reply, “It is fixed in the drama, Baba can not change it.” If that is the case, (if Baba Himself can not change the destiny), how can we ever ‘change’ / ‘create’ our destiny by making or not making effort? Can the future/ drama be changed? Are n’t we performing actions accurately as is defined by the drama no matter what our intentions are??

      How can we label a particular ‘soul/person’ good / bad when all that the person is doing is just obeying the drama script, knowingly or unknowingly? Actually, it is the other way round, it is not that he/she is performing the actions, it is the actions that are being carried out through him/ her; he/she is just a medium. 🙂

      Shrimat says that Drama is benevolent. Baba, the Ocean of Knowledge, the Ocean of Love, says that He loves the Drama and that it is accurate.

      Our moral standards, principles, customs, traditions, beliefs, etc. change from place to place and from time to time. We can not take any given belief as the global or eternal standard; Drama does not follow, does not work on the basis of man made rules and his beliefs, Drama follows its own course.

      Though we may feel that we have made intense effort and have brought in certain changes… but in reality, those thoughts, the effort making, etc are all predetermined. Just sit back and check – are we ‘creating’ our thoughts, or, are they flowing through us spontaneously? Remember that those thoughts are the basis for our words and actions too. In the drama, it is not just the words and actions, even the thoughts which are the basis for them are predetermined.

      For a long time we were under the impression that we can ‘change’ our lives, we ‘create’ our thoughts, etc. Actually, it is the other way, the soul is an empty pot which holds all its roles and the roles get expressed through us irrespective of our approval or disapproval.

      Then who am “I”? I am a soul which has absolutely no control over its roles!

      I am just a conveyor. Then, the questions of being a very elevated soul or a less elevated soul, or creating my fortune by making effort do not arise.

      “Then what are we supposed to be doing?” – one may ask.

      Baba tells us again and again, “Children, be a detached observer and perform actions; drama is predestined and is eternal and it repeats itself accurately every kalpa.”

      Some incidents in the drama made me wonder initially as to why i was involved/ impressed by them till i understood the predetermined drama.

      In my case, in this present role, according to drama – my father wrote my horoscope in a book when i was 6,7 year old and kept it safely in his shelf. Sometimes he did tell me a couple of points like – i would become very wealthy and very spiritual, but did not reveal anymore details.

      i come from a lower middle class family and i was not at all religious, nor traditional, nor did i pursue any spiritual path till i was almost 40. So, at times i used to laugh whenever i remembered my father’s predictions.

      When i was in my college, i happened to meet an astrologer who gave me some important details of my future. i was fascinated by his predictions but still laughed at them; my circumstances, life style, etc were nowhere any close to his predictions, nor did i try to make any effort to attain the things that he predicted; and with the passing of time, i almost forgot the whole incident.

      But to my amazement, things just started to happen the way he told me, and i did marry a relative of mine as he predicted (who also came from a poor family), and i did become quite wealthy (by Indian standards) in a matter of few years as my husband got a very good job in an International organisation… .. but still, i was leading a very worldly life and was neither religious nor spiritual. Exactly as he predicted, my spiritual life started with a bang…i started to have visions of the angelic Brahma Baba in the year 1990 and eventually grew very close to him…In 1993 i happened to take the basic course… and then on my life has undergone enormous changes.

      These experiences coupled with some experiences of my friends and relatives made me understand that the drama is predetermined which takes its own course without any conscious effort from our side. We are like a puppet and the drama makes it happen through us.

      Brahma Baba also used to say that we are all bound by the drama including Shiv Baba.

      Shiv Baba tells many times that He will not interfere in any one’s karma. But some BKs with their old sanskars of bhakti keep repeating, “Do not worry, Baba will help you, Baba will take care of you, Baba will change your husbad, etc.” And we have seen Brahma Baba, Mamma, quite a few seniors of the past and present suffering a lot from some illness or the other. If it was Baba’s duty/ role to help his children, He would have helped all the souls who were suffering.

      Whatever we are going through at the moment is accurate and is beneficial..

      Understanding the drama is a very very important factor in the subject of Raja Yoga. Knowledge of Drama is not mentioned in any scripture other than shrimat. So, let us understand and use this knowledge and develop a clear vision.

      May you be knowledge-full and trikaldarshi and remain constantly happy and content by knowing every secret of the drama.

      The children who are knowledge-full and trikaldarshi can never become upset (naaraaz). Even if someone defames or insults them, they would still remain happy (raazi) because those who understand every secret (raaz) of the drama cannot become unhappy. It is those who do not know the secrets who become unhappy. Therefore, always have this awareness: if you are not happy having become a child of God, the Father, then, when would you be happy? Those who are happy and content now are close to the Father and equal to Him.

      Om shanti.

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      • avyakt7- New Generation 11:10 AM on November 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Thank you for your article. It is very rational, convincing and it has your own experience in it to support your words. If you go deeper, you may see that even though you say “we” are conveyors or detached observers (As Baba said,) there is nothing to call “we.” There is the Drama and that “we” or “I” is part of it, not separated. The drop of water of the Ocean is not separated from the Ocean unless consciousness of that separation exists. In “reality” there is no drop of water. That is just a human perception.
        Therefore, “we” already ARE what “we” ARE looking to achieve through spirituality, tapasya, rituals, pujas, etc. It is just that “we” are not CONSCIOUS of it.
        That is the journey. From sleepiness to awaken-ness.
        Until consciousness IS, we only have beliefs. “We” ARE not what we understand. thus, what is the utility of mental understanding of “spiritual” things?
        Just to inspire. :-). I will post your article next Tuesday, before going on vacation on the 8th.

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        • Gayathri 3:06 AM on November 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          Dear Avyakt 7 NG, yes, an ocean is not created by adding drops of water, it has been existing eternally as one entity whether or not new drops of water got added to it from rains and rivers. There are many drops of water, but still, it is one ocean.

          That sounds good as far as the ocean is concerned. But, we the poor souls are subjected to various pleasant and unpleasant experiences in life.. that does not look fair or lucrative. 🙂

          Got your point, since all the ‘drops of water’ / souls are participants of one single drama called LIFE, we do not need to ‘work’ for achieving something or becoming something. The drama will automatically take us through various stages, and one day we may touch the “NO I” stage and then again slowly run into the “I” stage in the cycle of LIFE.

          Whatever you may say, brother, life has not been that enjoyable these days for me.. 🙂

          Funny drama, this one has no ‘delete’ button nor ‘fast forward’ button. And these churnings make me crazier. 😦

          But there are some nice points too to feel nice about the drama though … i do not need to toil, do not need to achieve any thing; instead, ‘success’ will come to me on its own. 🙂

          [“What is success?” – Being happy all the time. 🙂 ]

          I know, some people may ask me whether i want to be an escapist and/ or lead a life of laziness and carelessness. But actually, if i really, completely believe in whatever i have shared till now, i could lead a very carefree life… i am still in the process of convincing my mind in different situations where i am at the ‘receiving end’. 🙂

          Will share those things in another mail.


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        • Gayathri 4:16 AM on November 10, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          From a message on internet:

          Drama & our roles

          New York is 3 hours ahead of California, but it does not make California slow.

          Someone graduated at the age of 22, but waited 5 years before securing a good job!

          Someone became a CEO at 25, and died at 50.

          While another became a CEO at 50, and lived to 90 years.

          Obama retires at 55, but Trump starts at 70.

          Absolutely everyone in this world works based on their Time Zone.

          People around you might seem to go ahead of you, some might seem to be behind you.

          But everyone is running their own RACE, in their own TIME.

          Don’t envy them or mock them.

          They are in their TIME ZONE, and you are in yours!

          Life is about waiting for the right moment to act.

          So, RELAX.

          You’re not LATE.

          You’re not EARLY.

          You are very much ON TIME, and in your TIME ZONE Destiny sets up for you.

          In conclusion, don’t rush to get and don’t be sad if things turn out to be slow.

          God makes all things beautiful in His time.

          Stay blessed!!!!

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          • Christopher joseph 6:12 AM on November 10, 2017 Permalink | Reply

            Thanks sweet Sister Gayathri”That was Very consoling ” Thanks” and enjoy your journey making it beautiful with”zero expectation ” 🤚stay Blessed 😊


      • Christopher joseph 8:22 PM on November 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        *****like 😊Dear sweet soul your article made me churn a lot .according to the belief of the prerecorded cassette/drama all actors have to play their roles whether they like it or not and depends on the producer director and story writer of the drama who predetermines your role.Also to churn that a villain also has to get payed for his/her role.also I have to believe I am not responsible for the role I play for my role was already chosen.😊🤔 ….very convincing. 👍Thanks and Love. ……………..Om Shanti (*)


        • Gayathri 3:10 AM on November 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          Thanks brother for your encouraging words. I have expressed my feelings about this ‘not so interesting drama’ in my reply to Avyakt7 NG just a while ago which appears above your message.


          • Christopher joseph 9:46 AM on November 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

            Sweet sister another thought entered my mind.First of all I came into existence as a pure Soul and did not force my self into existence.My earthly father did not make me for sure.What is that which gives me the role of 84 births or 72 births or 60,50,40-2-1 birth.If I was born in the house of a rich man or a religious man or a beggar or a thief my life would be shaped accordingly.Also I am pure when I first came into existence.(karma not yet started) and have to be given a role.On what basis is my role chosen.Could you or Avyakt 7 NG or any bk/ex bk reading this blog give me a suitable answer/advice. (*) …waiting for replies 🤔🤔🤔😊


            • Dinesh C 4:30 AM on November 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

              Hi Joseph, it’s nice to know that there are few more souls like you who don’t want to exist ever, I too thought same after experiencing momentary “No-I”, but Ahnanda has advised me to find and confirm few things, he neither agrees nor he disagrees.

              And regarding which role you get in the drama is mostly decided by the “efforts” you make according to Srimat of BKs, but those efforts are also predestined, basically you are not the “doer” MAY BE only an experience. Things are happening when you have the idea of “Doing” efforts, and NOTHING is happening if you are “NO-I”. But Drama is happening 🙂 Om shanti 🙂


              • Christopher joseph 7:11 PM on November 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                Sweet brother as you say the role I get depends on the effort I make.🤔My effort also is based on the role I get.also remember I came into existence as a pure unbiased soul If I was given a role of 84 births my efforts would be different than if I am given one birth and the family I’m born in.My saying “Wah drama ” as bk gyan tells us is meaningless as the drama doesn’t have a writer.When my role is enjoyable my gratitude goes to the director and script writer of the DRAMA.😊😊😊


                • Dinesh C 12:52 AM on November 4, 2017 Permalink

                  Dear Joseph, the knowledge of drama as thought in BK gyan is to bring the “No-Mind” to some extent, not completely though. There is one article by Ahnanda on this page on the same topic.

                  But let me ask you one question, did u not exist even before coming into existence, in the point of light form in the supreme abode, I think by exixtence you only mean the drama existing on earth, existence is beyond and unbounded, they have a lesson on three worlds shown within the boundary of egg shaped structure, is there anything beyond the boundary that they have shown!!

                  Well bro I am seeker now, I thought I have got that what I wanted with BKs, so seeking, what am I seeking, don’t know! perhaps enhancement of spiritual experiences 🙂
                  Om shanti 🙂
                  But just a suggestion, I used to debate a lot with people for topics on spirituality but that is just to prove your Ego higher than other person, so I don’t encourage debates for myself now 🙂


                • Gayathri 9:43 AM on November 4, 2017 Permalink

                  Dear divine family,
                  Om shanti.

                  The other day, some one brought up the topic of ‘making effort’ / purusharth. Here are some points. Please share your experiences too. 🙂

                  What effort do we have to make?

                  A. Slowing down thoughts?

                  Some feel that we have to slow down our thoughts so that we could experience a higher level of consciousness.

                  Can we really slowdown our thoughts consciously? NO.

                  The speed and quality of our thoughts are based SOLELY on our current level of consciousness. And the level of consciousness can not be changed by ‘preaching’ the mind, or following certain disciplines, or by leading a disciplined life; our consciousness is quite subtle and can not be influenced by physical actions or moral teachings. It undergoes changes by going through certain deep experiences and realisations. Intellectual understanding of things alone can not change our consciousness.

                  When we check ourselves, we notice that we do not need to make any effort to ‘create thoughts’, but ‘ready made’ thoughts pass through our minds. 🙂

                  In other words, thoughts ‘get created’ / formed before they ‘enter’ the mind of the ROLE played through the soul. 🙂

                  Yes, sometimes we focus on our thoughts and try to ‘create’ new ones by using certain logic and ultimately get satisfied when we arrive at some decision/ thought. And from then on, again, we find the thoughts ‘flowing through our minds’ without us making any effort to create them or by observing them.

                  When we analyze the process, we realise that whatever ‘logic’ we have used for a few minutes to channelise our thoughts, it was also TOTALLY based on our level of consciousness.

                  And the so called ‘channelisation of thoughts’ using some sort of logic also had happened ‘spontaneously’ based on our level of consciousness and the ONLY extra component that was present in our ‘logical thinking’ was that we were conscious of the thoughts that were flowing through our mind. 🙂 The thoughts that flow through the mind/ soul are all PREDETERMINED in this predetermined drama.

                  How to do service with the mind?

                  Whatever level of consciousness we possess at any given point in time has its own level of vibrations. They spread in the atmosphere based on their capacity and intensity.

                  When we give sakash to any particular person, we are channelising / focusing our vibrations to that soul/ person. That is how the other person receives it more than anyone else and can even experience receiving the sakash. We can give sakash to many people too, but how much we could serve through the mind depends on the LEVEL / capacity of our consciousness.

                  The power of sakash does not depend on our desire to serve, nor on the pressure that we may apply on our mind to serve the world; but it depends on our stage, the level of our consciousness.

                  I had the opportunity to meet some senior BKs who could give us the experience of bodiless stage just by glancing at us even when they were doing some physical work. But quite a few of us have to prepare ourselves, get ready to stabilise our mind, be silent, then focus on some one, in order to give drishti/ sakash. 🙂

                  Can we bring changes in others and in the self by doing service with the mind (through manasaa seva)?

                  As explained earlier, our thoughts, words, and actions depend on the level of our consciousness at any given time. When a change occurs in the consciousness, there will certainly be a change in our thoughts, words, and actions. But it is not vice – versa. That is, of course we can not change our thoughts, they are ‘ready-made’, but by trying to change our words and actions we can not change the consciousness.

                  For example – we see some people who adhere strictly to their own religious beliefs, preach very good things everyday to students/ followers, lead a very pious life; but their sanskars remain the same even after many years of following a spiritual path. Why is it so? 🙂

                  Doing things can not change one’s sanskars or consciousness.

                  They may be very ardent lovers of GOD, but their love is exclusively reserved for God (and not for co human-beings) because they hope and believe that God would appreciate and acknowledge their love for Him and would help them in their hour of need.

                  And even teaching and preaching spirituality is done to attain blessings from God (thinking God would be happy with his/her ‘altruistic’ service), and also that they would get respect and adoration from the students/ followers.

                  But when we watch their behaviour, we notice that they continue to compete with others, get jealous, angry, arrogant, harsh, etc. even after many years of leading a spiritual life.

                  So, in spite of ‘doing’ so much Godly service and leading a rigorous religious life, performing very good actions, one’s consciousness does not change until and unless that person goes through a series of experiences and realises and understands the change that is needed in him. This could take a few months, years, or a life time.

                  Will continue on some more points in my next mail.

                  Please share your thoughts and experiences too.

                  best wishes & regards,
                  Gayathri ben.


      • Dinesh C 5:25 AM on November 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Really nice and wonderful explanation sister 🙂
        I recently became an OSHO lover, you might have heard about him, and I have mentioned him many times here on this blog, not for promoting him, but the closeness which you have felt for Brama Baba, I am currently feeling that for Master Osho, Rajneesh.

        There is one lecture of him on “Witnessing”, where he explains that the day he was completely out of the body, he could witness this world as a mare “DRAMA” and nothing else. Well, a lot of problems from psychological prospective are gone from my life because of just this one understanding that “DRAMA is there, but “I” am not there, and when “I” am there, DRAMA is not there”. Thanks to Ahnanda too 🙂


        • Christopher joseph 5:00 AM on November 4, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          Very rightly said sweet brother Dinesh🤔😊(we are sailing in the same boat)and bk is the part of the journey which is necessary but it is not the end “just take the best and ignore the rest🤔😊(I pictured myself like a donkey walking with a carrot tied in front of him with a stick tied to him)on the JOURNEY TO THE UNKNOWN. I get a juicy carrot which avyakt7 wrote/writes which encourages my walk in search of the UNLIMITED.(with EGO clinging to me as an invisible parasite 🤔😊😊😊 👍Love U 😊 and remembering Him (*) the good thing I learnt.🤔😊


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