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  • avyakt7- New Generation 5:55 AM on June 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    To renounce renunciation 

    Those were BapDada’s words as I recall them, from when I was attending Murli classes.
    Observe that the word “renunciation” is taken in many ways by many Brahma Kumaris followers.
    For some it is the renunciation of the “bad” so the “good” appears. That is easy to understand intellectually. It makes “sense.” However, it is completely, utterly meaningless.
    “Good and Bad” are dualities. All dualities are complementary in nature.

    DO what you BELIEVE to be “Good.” Sooner or later, it will turn into “Bad” for others and yourself. That is the superhero story in the movies. That is self-righteousness.
    There is movement of dualities all the time. Observe Life! Nothing remains the same but only the IDEAL that something is “good,” forever.
    Of course, the above will not be understood by the masses, the majority; so it will be dismissed as “manmat.” There cannot be a “best-seller” book with that.

    BapDada has said many things about renunciation in every type of Murli, there are many apparently contradictory statements.
    For most Brahma Kumaris followers, it is about letting go of whatever they feel it is “bad” for them based on what the religion believes to be “bad.”
    Sex is bad. Renounce it.
    To eat food from non-Brahma Kumaris followers is “bad.” Renounce it.
    Anger is “bad.” Renounce it.
    Relationships with people is “bad.” Renounce it.

    Let me ask: How would you make sense of the greatest renunciation of all, to “renounce renunciation”?  🙂

    If I AM anger and then I make myself believe that “I will renounce anger,” I am kidding myself. I could reject anger, I could suppress it… to make others as well as myself believe that there is no anger in me. However, it is a lie.

    When anger goes away, then that is who I AM. It happens without renouncing anger. I have renounced renunciation.
    It is natural. Remember that word, natural? BapDada uses it as well.
    We may ask, how do I make anger go away?
    The answer is: “I” don’t make anything happen. “I” ALLOW it to happen.  If that “I” DOES something, it will only be to comply with an ideal, a belief which does not fit, who “I AM” now. Observe that.

    To understand anger, we need to observe it. We need to be AWARE of the triggers. Then we need to be AWARE of the emotions that are making the knots of anger… and untie them through emotional healing, realizations, forgiveness, etc.

    “I” AM not renouncing anything. “I” AM not labeling anything as “bad” to make me feel guilty if “I AM” that. Neither I am labeling that as “good” to judge others. “I” am out of the duality, thus I can observe, realize, become aware and use this opportunity to know myself by allowing it to change…naturally.
    I have renounced renunciation, thus; I am truly following Shrimat.

    The stern, serious face of a renunciate is almost like he is constipated.  He must renounce going to the bathroom, for that is dirty, impure, etc. The “bad” things are kept inside, not allowing them to express. Think about the consequences.

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh Chawla 5:19 AM on June 4, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Ahnanda,

      I remember long back I was attending en evening murli class, and on this topic of renunciation a sister was teaching about renunciation of our own subtle desires. She said that every type of desire no matter what it is, is a burden on the mind, so we must renounce all of our desires.
      That’s where I started realising that me desiring for knowledge is also a burden on my mind, me desiring to enhance and repining my yoga experience with Baba is also a burden on my mind, me desiring for sister’s appreciation for doing some seva is also a burden on my mind.
      My experience of being good or bad has also changed like you have described in the beginning of this article. With BKs I was using all that for teaching other brother’s too, but now the same knowledge and same experience of meditation is simply for myself, yes some people consider it being selfish to some extent, but I think I need to first apply all those things on myself first rather than teaching other’s first.
      And I remember long back Ahnanda had also exclaimed for me being so much concerned about what other’s are doing… 🙂
      Om shanti brother 🙂

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      • ahnanda 7:31 PM on June 5, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Nothing wrong with having desires. Those are mental things. Just like renouncing those mental things. Whether we renounce them or not, it doesn’t matter. What matters is how consumed we are through those mental things, how much do we expect them. Are we AWARE of that?
        Is the desire to go to heaven something that needs to be renounced as well?
        Perhaps it is a “pure” desire? That is the power of words. It is the “ninth” power.

        Best to you, Dinesh.

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 9:54 AM on February 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    "Choice" to come down the ladder 

    The “eternally predestined Drama” means a plot which allows for Life to recycle itself. Observe that nothing in it can be labeled as “bad” or “good” but rather necessary. However,  there is this idea that “I” can change things the way “I” want to, based on an understanding of human or “godly” morality. 

    Who is that “I”?
    “You” have been “coming down the ladder” without DOING something purposely for it to happen.  “You” were not AWARE. “You” were “good” and turned out to be “bad” after a while. Why should you DO a thing to “go up the ladder”?

    A BK follower may say: “That is entropy”.
    That is Jagdish’s terminology, but entropy means “gradual decline into chaos”; however, in the Drama things go back to the way it was before, thus every moment is “eternal”.
    How do we explain this?
    Because the Drama is a circle. It is not a line. For the travelers of the circle there is no “up or down”, there is merely movement around it.
    Because of that, the word “entropy” may not be accurate.

    The conventional idea is that “If I am going down the ladder, I need to make effort to go up”.
    That is the belief behind “effort making.” “I make effort.”
    Nevertheless, in Life what goes down will go up… all by itself… It is in the Drama!

    Going “up” or “down” has no morality in the circle of Life. It is part of the human experience. However, most have agreed that “going up” is “good” and “going down” is “bad”. The efforts of the “I” are needed to remain “up” and resist going down.

    That is the “maya”.

    Someone will ask: “So what DO I DO? To let myself be pulled by Life?”

    Please understand. Whatever “you” consider to BE “you” is Life itself.
    Any decisions “you” make based on ideals are just that, ideals.

    BapDada has taught to BKs in the Avyakt Murlis about “being a detached observer.”
    We can only talk about being a detached observer because there is a predestined Drama. Otherwise, we cannot. Otherwise, there is the “I” who will be responsible and accountable for not DOING the “right thing”.

    A detached observer appears as a consequence of assimilation of experiences. If there is rejection of a particular experience, then we are not being detached. There is a “button” being pushed.

    The Drama is a movie. Enjoy it! That has been the message for a long time now. Your capacity to enjoy Life is “good karma” but that is hindered by the conditioned mind. Therefore, observe that which we call mind, get acquainted with it. It is not about judging, but to be open to discover what it is.

    “You” are the movie of Life. “You” want to change what is in the movie. However: How can “you” change a movie that has already been made?

    The illusion is in the one who wants to change the movie.
    Yes, in the movie you eat chocolate ice cream. It happens that you like that ice cream. You call that “my choice” but you never think about how that liking for chocolate ice cream came to you. It is easier to say: “It is my choice, my liking” but all your choices come from what the movie offers and the conditioning of previous experiences, which you had no “control of”.
    Do you see that?

    Observe the movie, enjoy it… That is all. You can play the game of “making choices” and feel ‘good’ or ‘bad’ or guilty/innocent… all the dualities, but now you know that there is no “true”choice, for there is no “I.” However, if you are not AWARE, a big “I” will be growing and choices/decisions will appear as being “mine.” But do not worry…That is not “bad” or “good”. It is necessary. Become AWARE of it for any change to happen “naturally” and not through following a commandment or a religious dogma. That is artificial… but necessary for many.
    The movie moves through stories. You are part of that story…. But your story depends on other connected stories. A what point then, you could separate from everything else?

    Only in your mind.

    For the common good.

     
    • Anil Kumar 10:13 PM on February 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Yes Avyakt7-NG, there is nothing new in the drama.

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      • Dinesh Chawla 9:32 AM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Hey Ahndy, your article on “What is awareness?” was the MOST GREAT … I mean just Woooww… don’t have any more words for it. Thank you so much for writing that article.

        Well I cam here on BK page for a small question, could you please explain that thing in your way, I will really appreciate that… 🙂

        Ok so it is about taking with Shiv Baba in paramdham, we have done that .. I mean I had done that while I wa son that path. We go there by converting ourselfs into a point form of soul and visualize baba in front of us and then we both star talking… like

        Soul: Good morning Baba
        Supreme Soul: Good morning my sweet child
        Soul: Baba I am not feeling good today
        Supreme soul: Why what happened?
        Soul: Someone said something really hurtful in office, and I am a little angry on that guy.
        Supreme soul: Oh sweatheart, that guy was just playing a role in teh drama of your life and in teh cosmic drama too. And that too according to his own sanskars. Forgive that soul and move on child.
        Soul: Oh baba, you are so great you freed me from anger I had on that guy by giving this answer. Thank you baba, now I have a lot of work, going down on stage back and will see you soon, love you baba.

        Well that was my personal example in my own way. But my question is “Are all the replies from Baba are from my own mind and not from Baba, because we feel that when we do? That we are talking with our own mind and not with any supreme being.

        Now sister Shivani has said this in one of her lecture of “Practice Spirituality”… the answer from baba will be something against your own thinking, something like dude how can baba say this, but you need to do it… 🙂

        Please through some light on this, it will help us a lot.
        Regards,
        Dinesh C

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 4:00 PM on July 28, 2016 Permalink | Reply
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    Avyakt Murlis 

    The “Word of God” recorded in every Murli.
    Nevertheless, a Sakar Murli and the Avyakt Murli are quite different in content, style and directness. It seems spoken/written by 2 different entities/individuals.
    Avyakt Murlis are the most recent. Avyakt Murlis are the expression of Brahma Baba in his “perfect form,” yet these Murlis are read once a week, typically on a Sunday. The rest of the days is about Sakar Murlis.

    Have you ever wondered why?
    If Avyakt Murlis are the most recent and most “perfect,” why are they relegated to the back seat?
    The answer is simple. Avyakt Murlis do not convey the “method.” The language and style of an Avyakt Murli are far from a “black or white,” no nonsense type of expound.

    The belief is that by repeating the Murlis spoken by Brahma Baba in his last years in the physical realm, that could help others “reach perfection.”

    Self-realization is not a matter of repetition. It is not a matter of following scriptures, for our interpretation will be according to our experiences. Aware of this issue, it was thought of having an “instrument” (experienced/senior BK) interpret the scriptures, but every believer will interpret the interpretation of the “instrument,” accordingly. Even the senior BK is interpreting as those experiences narrated in the Murli are not his own.

    It does not matter if “you were there when Brahma Baba spoke those words.” Still there will be interpretation.

    Nevertheless, the “method,” is the “method.” If you agree to follow the “method;” then it is highly advisable to go all the way, to blindly follow it for at the end there will be benefit.

    What is the benefit?
    There are many, but the greatest one is that we can only move on in consciousness, if we are aware. Therefore, awareness is the greatest benefit.
    The paradox being that this awareness is the “method” to free someone from the “method.” This is not intellectual understanding, we have to go through the experience, for in the experience; there is change.

    The latest avyakt Murlis are not about knowledge any more. It is more about BEING love in the company of the “children.”

     
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