Tagged: avyakt7 Toggle Comment Threads | Keyboard Shortcuts

  • avyakt7- New Generation 5:04 AM on July 11, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: avyakt7, , bhagavad gita, , , mediumship,   

    Question on beliefs and mediumship 

    “Please share your experience about channeling and mediumship. Some oraganization and individuals claim challenging each other about mediumship. When asked at Brahmakumaris how God can come in individual person? They quoted a verse from Bhagvad Gita “Whenever there is decay of righteousness, O Bharata, And there is exaltation of unrighteousness, then I Myself come forth ; For the protection of the good, for the destruction of evil-doers, For the sake of firmly establishing righteousness, I am born from age to age” (ch-4 verse 7-8). I have read Bhagvad Gita and feel that it explores every aspects of life.
    Please share your opinion.”

    Thank you for your question.
    What is important is to be honest with our own experience.
    I have second hand experience of what is mediumship through my sister Raysha, when she is the medium of Mathias (Being of light.) That is only my experience. Someone else may have a different experience and that is fine.
    It seems that you BELIEVE in the “Bhagavad Gita.” Have you experienced that verse?
    As far as Avyakt7 NG is concerned, that verse is inaccurate or ill translated. Good cannot exist without Evil. Duality 101. Duality is not a belief. We EXPERIENCE it all the time, although many may not be AWARE of it. When there is no duality, there cannot be “good.” If someone uses that word to represent the absence of duality, that person does not know by EXPERIENCE and is being led by the shortcomings of language, thus; a misrepresentation.
    If Brahma Kumaris uses that verse to support their belief in “God” coming through a person, I haven’t seen BapDada “destroying evil doers.” Does BapDada fit the description of the Bhagavad Gita then?
    The above is my EXPERIENCE.

    My opinion is of no consequence for everyone has one, all equally valid and all far from what IS.
    WHAT IS, cannot fit an opinion.
    BELIEVERS are spread out all over the place. They BELIEVE in religion, science, philosophy, people, etc. That BELIEF becomes their dogma. When doubts arise, they either create another belief to put their doubts away or create another belief to run away from their former belief. Either way, that former belief will hunt them down for the rest of their days. The stronger they believed in something, the stronger that shadow upon them will be.

    An experience is a gateway for further experiences as long as our minds do not take that experience as the “only truth.” For at that point, a belief is created.

    Advertisements
     
  • avyakt7- New Generation 6:09 AM on May 30, 2018 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: avyakt7, , , , existence of god, , ,   

    The existence of God 

    Does God exist?
    There are only 2 possible answers: Yes or No.
    Reasonably, there can be many arguments against or for.
    Experientially, the “special” few will share their experiences to the many.
    The many will become followers, believers…

    Therefore, there are many who are “right” and many who are “wrong,” depending on the chosen belief. An intelligent person wants to align with those who are “right” so he too can be “right.” That is the silly game of the mind.

    “God” is without meaning to those who are only interested in a simple “yes” or “no” or for those interested in being “right.”
    “God” has meaning for those who are looking for a way out of suffering, those who are searching for hope during an otherwise, meaningless life. A simple yes or no will not quench their thirst.

    Religions have their own versions of “God.” Christians have a God who has existed in their awareness for 2000 years. Brahma Kumaris has a God, who has existed for 100 years for those believers. Both gods are different. “Eternal Life” is the only thing they have in common.
    If a Hollywood movie star gives his opinion, such as: “God does not exist. I believe in Science,” or “Everyone has their own take of God. My God is as I want him to be.”
    Those statements make sense, they are reasonable, however; completely meaningless.
    Those movie stars, have not started the journey of searching for answers in Life for suffering hasn’t knock at their doors enough times yet. “Searching” is not about reading books or information.

    To know the answer of that question is a journey: Deny God all you want. It may take many years or a Life time. Then, it is guarantee that you will believe in God. At the end of that journey, you will have the answer.
    OR believe in God all you want. Join religions, convert others, etc. Then, naturally, you will deny his existence. At the end of that journey, you will have the answer. The believer and the atheist are the same.

    The “yes” and the “no” will take you to the same place as long as we go through the complete “yes” and the complete “no.” Otherwise, we will only have beliefs, even though rational, logical; those beliefs will only serve to divide people through the use of labels but there will not be a bit of meaning, able to affect our consciousness.

    A complete journey will change our consciousness, although we don’t know when. It just happens.
    All we have to DO is to allow for change to happen. The “truth” of the answer of the existence of God, is in the honest search which brings a journey.
    No one can give you an answer. We need to find it ourselves.

    The ones who truly know, cannot talk about it. Why?
    The answer: Compassion.

     
    • Christopher 8:37 AM on May 31, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Dear Avyakt ,I feel that no one knows the answer so how is “compassion “the answer to the one who knows ? (Compassion on what?? I couldn’t understand your point of view .

      Like

    • Gayathri 9:38 PM on May 31, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      The one who understands the journey, and finds his own ‘truth’ about God, will not ‘disturb’ others to believe what he has learnt, simply because he is compassionate; he lets them continue with their own journey so as to find their own truth. Any individual would find his own truth in different births in different ways with different answers. 🙂

      In this context i would like to share my experience: i have a friend who is highly spiritual (according to our yard stick 🙂 ) and has certain spiritual gifts. Once, around 27 years ago (I was not a BK then), we were discussing the atheistic approach of two people who were closely connected to us and she told me that both these people, in their previous births, were staunch devotees and priests. Their experiences made them lose faith in God and thus they had become total atheists in the present birth. At that time i just believed what she said because i knew she had no ulterior motives in revealing her thoughts. But now i think i understand the process of our life’s journey to some extent.

      Either way, this also could be an assumption, after all. 🙂
      regards,
      Gayathri.

      Like

    • Gayathri 2:53 AM on June 7, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Want to share a message that i sent yesterday to a group called Victoriousjewels. I received a few responses and again replied to them. The one i am going to send to this blog was my first message on the topic, “making effort”.

      Like

    • Gayathri 2:55 AM on June 7, 2018 Permalink | Reply

      Making effort according to drama… some observations.

      Dear Victorious jewels,
      Om shanti.

      Would like to share with you some observations that i made in this spiritual journey. Hope you will go through this message and share your thoughts too.

      I have been in gyan and reading muralis since 25 years… With passing of time, and in the company of some senior yogis, i have observed and learnt a few things.

      1.. Baba gives the murali for students of all ages, starting from the one day old child to 5,6 decade old children. Because of this vast range of ‘age groups’ in the global class room, he has to give different directions to children of different age groups on any given day in a single murali. And it is our job to assimilate the knowledge first at the basic level and then gradually try to learn and experiment at a higher level to become a mature yogi.

      That is the reason why Baba asks us to ‘dive deep in to the ocean of knowledge’ to get the real/ precious jewels. But many BKs get stuck at the basic level and choose to stay only on the shores of the Ocean and collect the shells; that is, they take Baba’s words literally instead of grasping the message he conveys, and end up understanding the murali superficially.

      3.Recently i met a relative of mine who once narrated me his story of meeting an expert of “Nadi shastram’, and this meeting has inspired me to share my thoughts on Drama with you once again after a gap of one year on this topic. 🙂

      (Nadi astrology /shastram is based on predictions that an ancient Tamil sage called Agathiyar had written on palm leaves. Apparently, there’s a palm leaf that corresponds to everyone. If you find your leaf, you’ll get to know your future.)

      And the predictions given for my relative were very very accurate including the name of his wife! Please be reminded that they were written more than one thousand years ago and my relative would have taken quite a number of births after that to reach the present life. That means, unless all his previous births were also predetermined, he would not have reached the present life, the main incidents of which were already accurately written on that palm leaf.

      The sage Agathiyar had predicted the future of lakhs of people accurately that too more than a thousand years ago.

      Baba says that this drama is predestined and that whatever happens now will get repeated every kalpa in the same way second by second. Nadi shastram PROVES this point. It reveals as to what is happening in our present life, that means, whatever we have done in the past 10 or more births (after it was written at least 1000 years ago) must have followed a pre determined pattern for us to have reached the present state of being.

      We may believe that by ‘making effort’ we can change our destiny. But, we have been noticing that even among the BKs who have faith in the Father, and read murali every day, and ‘make effort’ to improve themselves, how many had attained success?

      Why is it that some could make progress and some couldn’t? That is because of Drama which follows the pre written script accurately.

      We notice some BKs, even after decades of practising Raja yoga, have not changed/ could not change their sanskars. Why is it so? DRAMA.

      Baba says, “The role of 84 births are recorded in the soul which can not be erased.” – This is shrimat, is n’t it? This is from the murali, is n’t it? Then where is the question of making effort or not making effort when we could only attain whatever is destined to happen?

      The cassette player (soul) is just a cassette player from which the cassette of our role is being played. The cassette player can not manipulate the cassette to play other than what is recorded in it, or, can it? 🙂

      Understanding this aspect is what enables us to be detached observers and maintain the consciousness of being an ‘instrument’. This makes us to understand every one’s role, and to be sympathetic to them. This realisation enables us to give love and respect to every actor in the drama as no matter what kind of role is being played through a soul, it is just a role and the soul has no authority to bring changes in his/ her role. This is a predestined drama and the drama script is eternal.

      ” But, Baba tells us to make effort!” – Yes, Baba tells us to make effort, that direction is for the beginners. He also says that the Drama is predestined and only those who are destined to come here would come to take the knowledge. And He also says that no matter how much effort one may put in, we can become karmateet only at the end.

      So, even if we make very intense effort to become karmateet in a week’s / month time, our sanskars do not change on the basis of our yoga or service to reach that stage.

      Many BKs behave/ pretend as if they had overcome attachment, lust, anger, ego etc. But it becomes very much visible in an unguarded moment; then it even shakes that person’s confidence too. Our intellect might tell us that we have overcome all the vices, but it is nothing but self deception… by not committing ‘sin’ at the action level, we do not become pure as the old sanskars would be waiting to express themselves at any time. Any amount of preaching, yoga, and service can not change our sanskars EXCEPT when we go through certain experiences in our lives according to the drama script. Till then we would be faking the ‘angelic’ stage but would have continued to remain as a tamopradhan soul.

      “Then, what are we supposed to be doing? Doing nothing?” – Well, well, when we understand that the predetermined role is being played through us on which the soul has no control, let us accept ourselves as we are and be honest with the self, be a detached observer (like what Baba says), and stop pretending / showing off. Only those who are real yogis ‘can cross the river’ and those who pretend to be yogis will have to ‘take a boat’ to cross; and that would be quite embarrassing to the soul.

      I felt like sharing these thoughts as i notice some BKs behaving exactly like lokik business men who ‘work hard’ to amass wealth. Some BKs compete with others, get jealous of others if others could perform better than them in the field of service. Some souls mentally calculate as to how much wealthy they would be in future based on how much they have contributed to the yagya in terms of body, mind, and wealth. Some souls look down upon the new comers and assume that the new students are going to be their subjects in their future kingdom!

      Are we working on becoming yogis and carefree emperors or in becoming kings and emperors? Are we interested in emerging our divine sanskars as claimed by us or are working on amassing wealth and a huge kingdom? Is n’t it like an employee working hard to get a promotion and bonus? Does it not sound like doing a lokik business? 🙂

      “Well, Baba tells us to create our kingdom and subjects.” – Yes, that direction/ incentive is for the elementary class students – Baba also tells us to forget the old world and get detached from all the relationships and physical assets and to focus on becoming completely pure. Why is it that such an important point of knowledge is getting neglected? What should be our aim and objective?

      Luckily, according to drama, we reach our destination automatically (with or wothout making any specific effort) and with much more ease if we are honest with ourselves and accept ourselves as we really are without faking to be an angel.

      But Baba says, “Children, do not say that i would any way get whatever is in my fortune, but make sincere effort.” – Yes, Baba is like our mother. Imagine a mother who has 3,4 children, and she had happened to know the future of all her children (like Baba does). Out of her love for them and also as a part of doing her duty, she would tell every child to study well and to be honest, but she would know in her heart of hearts that only a particular child would study well and others would not. She might be knowing that only a couple of them would lead a life of honesty; but that does not deter her from cautioning/ preaching all the children to lead a life of honesty.

      So, it is high time we started understanding the essence of murali and lead a life of a detached observer. This attitude enables us to understand, love, and respect every role of souls and creates harmony in relationships and peace in the world.

      Om shanti.

      Like

  • avyakt7- New Generation 9:38 PM on December 20, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: avyakt7, , , , , , , , , ,   

    The search for “truth” in BK Gyan 

    Many followers of Brahma Kumaris are looking for “truth,” that is what “knowledge” (gyan) brings to them.
    The process of de-condition from mainstream Scientific based knowledge into Brahma Kumaris knowledge is an interesting phase, which is typically unobserved by followers.

    The key element is to observe how our “truth” could change from one side to the other, nevertheless; “truth” is never found. It remains as a belief.

    Is linear time factual? Is cyclical time what really exists? Is predestination the “truth” or perhaps it is “free will”? Does God exist?
    If I am a soul, how is it that I feel to be a body?

    Debates and “proofs” of the above or supportive authoritative statements, are part of the “search.”
    However, in Life and self-transformation, none of that stuff is worth a banana peel.

    The mind looks for “truth” and “truth” is not a paragraph to be recited or some sort of statement.
    In Life, there is no “right or wrong.” In Life, there is no “getting ahead.” In Life, there is no rush to get somewhere. In Life, there is no destination to reach. However, for the mind all of those things are important.

    Because the mind is momentarily satisfied with some argument, we believe that we found “truth.”
    We did not.

    Truth is in BEING. BEING happy does not depend on some action or method to follow. BEING fulfilled in Life, is not dependent on some philosophy or scientific idea.

    Life presents itself as a process. There is no completion.
    To reach the “Golden age” may be the  BK “aim and objective” for an ambitious mind;  but you can only BE in the Golden age, if you were there before, in the past. Do we see that?  If you were there, Life will make it happen again.
    What is the effort then? The “effort” is for those who weren’t there, but no matter what effort is done by them, they will not go there.
    Our path has already been walked many times. We don’t remember it.
    Therefore:
    “You” cannot be in the Golden age. “You” will not remember. “You” will not be “you.” Do we see that? 
    But yet, we indulge ourselves in making plans about the future in the afterlife.
    That is daydreaming. Though, it is a good way to distract the mind from the reality of the “now.”

    The rush to get into the “Golden age” (“now or never”) is only a tool for motivation. However, it is used many times to inflict guilt and shame in followers. Fear of “failure” of not getting there, is making their “now” into a miserable experience.

    Everyday in Life, there is a lesson on the art of appreciation.
    We are continuously changing. That appreciation “now” is a powerful ingredient to bring happiness, contentment “now.” Appreciation is not an ideal or philosophy.

    Nevertheless, we allow the mind to bring doubts and learned conditionings from scientific research or BK gyan or some other philosophy, so enjoyment of the present moment is gone.

    It is that lack of fulfillment of BEING the one that will drive us to search for “answers,” although the questions that we come up with, are completely conditioned. We believe that Life, the Universe work according to our understanding.
    That is “proof” of our tremendous ego.

    What would happen if Life is found in other planets?
    That means the automatic destruction of all religious beliefs, and scientific understanding of Life.
    That is how feeble the ideals/beliefs of the mind are. It is easier to say : “There is no other Life form but only us in the Universe” although, we do not know.

    However, for the one BEING in fulfillment, whether Life is found in other planets or not, is of no consequence.
    BEING is beyond any ideas of the mind, here is where “true” spirituality resides, away from the beliefs of the mind.

    For the common good.

     
    • Christopher Joseph 9:49 AM on December 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Sweet Ahnanda,I truly understand and appreciate your point of view.What does it mean when you mentioned about one BEING in fulfilment 🤔Does this being knows how it came into existence?has it undergone an EXPERIENCE🤔and are there such kind of beings living on this planet and have you experienced the feeling of a fulfilment 🤔and “Is it possible to achieve total fulfilment without knowing how this fulfilled being came into existence 😊

      Like

    • avyakt7- New Generation 10:24 AM on December 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Fulfillment is not an achievement. It is not something that “I have to do to get it.” Fulfillment comes. I could say it comes to “you” but then you could ask, how it comes to me? what can i do to make it quicker? How do I know if that is fulfillment? Do you know any other BEINGS in fulfillment? What is the experience like to be fulfilled? I can go on…. I think you get my point.
      It will come when it has to. In the meantime, enjoy your experience as it is. 🙂

      Like

  • avyakt7- New Generation 4:30 AM on November 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: avyakt7, , , , , , ,   

    The typical BK questions: Karma, Drama, Cycle of time. 

    Back from vacation! There will be some changes in this blog.
    Avyakt7-NG will be writing an article once a week. Typically, on a Thursday. As time goes by, there will be further changes in the way Avyakt7-NG will share to BK or Ex-BK readers.

    Avyakt7-NG encourages you to send your questions. Please make those questions to the point and hopefully, for the “common good” rather than personal issues.

    Lakshmipriya sent her question(s) here:
    In your first question: If “I” look honestly, If “I” suffer from a disease, no words or mental console could help me. The point is that there is no “reason” that could take “my” suffering away. Yes, “karma” is a “reason.” It could be true, but many times in our current life times we do not see the “why” we have to settle or “pay” for something that we do not even remember that “we did” in a past life. On the other hand, BK knowledge states that there is predestination. That means there was no way out. We had to go through that experience. Period.
    Whatever it is happening, it IS. Deal with it, knowing that experiences have a duration and then, they will go away. This is not a belief. Enjoyment should be there out of any Life experience, for every experience never comes by itself, there is a thread of other experiences along with it, worth enjoying them.

    Question #2: If you understand the Drama well, you will see that there is NOTHING that could be labeled as “bad,” or “good.” It is what it IS and for a limited time. 

    Question#3: The word “actor” imply many things. An actor “knows” (has the experience) of being an actor. Most human beings do not. For most, we feel that it is “I.” That is our consciousness. Lakshmipriya: Your keywords are: “This understanding, helps me.” Avyakt7-NG shares that mental understanding does not change BEING. It only puts a façade to mentally “accept” the issue. However, that stage is necessary to go beyond the trap of the mind.

    In one of Avyakt7’s trips to India as a BK, Avyakt7 went to Jodphur by himself.
    It is a different “reality” there, than being sheltered in Madhuban. Avyakt7 remembers seeing a dog walking down the street. The dog was limping. The dog was very dirty and it seemed as it had many diseases. The dog most likely, did not have a home. No food waiting. However, the dog was living Life. There is no “idea” of committing “suicide.” That dog was free from the mind. There is no “reason” needed to comfort the “suffering” of the dog, for the dog does not have that duality in the mind. On the other hand, humans are looking for “reasons” which they call “knowledge.” Those are pacifiers for someone living in the mind.

    The dog may “instinctively” KNOW that the “medicine is to go through the experience itself. Not to try to escape it. Light is at the end of that tunnel.”

    Hope that answered your questions.
    At the same time, this answers Christopher Joseph’s inquiry about “karma.”

    Now, on the question by Dinesh here:
    Ahnanda had the privilege to connect with his friend, Mathias while in Peru. Ahnanda shared with Mathias that Ahnanda’s sharing of “no-I” was misunderstood. Mathias responded that “ That [No-I] hurts them.” Also, he mentioned about “taking the pulse of others before sharing” without using those BK words.
    Therefore: When we experience “no-I” there is no cycle of time.
    When we experience “I” we are afraid of the cycle of time. When we “intellectually know” about the cycle of time and we believe it, while being only conscious of the “I,” there will be an inner war, an inner fight, a dissonance for the belief goes against our consciousness of “I have free will.”
    Thus, knowing that what will you DO? 🙂

    For the common good.

     
    • Lakshmipriya Nagarajan 6:04 AM on November 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      To look myself honestly I require the knowledge of truth. Isn’t it brother?. If the right answer is not given to the mind, the mind is going to keep on chatter. Over a period of time, I do not require to give any reason to the mind as the questioning ceases on this issue as I experience the truth. I understand “no-I” as “no ego”, no acquired sanskars. Otherwise embodied soul will have mind. And as I become close to “being”, probably i will be harmonizing the thought and actions. Yes, the suffering of body can not be stopped but the amplification of suffering caused by the mind’s expansion can be stopped by applying the powerful brake of knowledge. Isn’t it?

      Don’t I have the power to accept to go beyond the trap of mind. By using this power at right time in a right way many times, I can become the embodiment of that power. This will bring me to a stage of no-I. Isn’t it? In order to bring this “power to accept” in action, I need some knowledge points such as drama is accurate in operating as per philosophy of Karma, it is beneficial in bringing me to my original self. Everyone is actor playing their perfect role in the drama so on so forth…

      Like

      • avyakt7- New Generation 9:27 AM on November 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        As far as my experience, honesty is not related with some external idea of what “truth” should be. Honesty is to know what truly is going on inside and acknowledge it. As you mentioned, “knowledge” stops the amplification of suffering which comes from the mind. But it is only temporarily, for a few days; then the mind needs the same or higher quantity of that “fix.” This is the “reason” why in BK there is a need to listen to the Murli everyday. We “understand but we forget.” Nevertheless, even though the amplification of the sound could be stopped for a few days… the sound is still there. We want to get rid of it “now,” but that is not in the Drama…

        “No-I” is not an idea. It is an experience. Until there is experience, there can only be mind made speculations on how to “arrive to it,” how to “get it for me,” how to achieve it… All of that is an extension of the “I.”

        Liked by 1 person

    • Gayathri 11:52 AM on November 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      There are many levels of understanding/ interpreting Baba’s words.

      Baba says, “The ghost of attachment destroys all truth, everything”.

      Attachment comes from the word, ‘mine’. When we are not very sure who “I” am, we tend to assume our physical body, physical relationships, and physical belongings to be ‘mine’/ ours.

      Recently we were churning the topic, “Drama”. Though we may consider ourselves to be a soul, even the soul can not claim its qualities/ sanskars as its own because the soul is ONLY a ‘container’ for the 84 or so roles that are destined to be played through that particular soul. Every thought, word, and action of the soul is already destined to happen in a particular sequence, in a particular way which can not be changed even minutely.

      It is not just the body that we possess, even the roles that are being played through us are not OURS in the sense we have no control over them, we can not order and get them do things according to our wish.

      The real “I” is just an observer, a catalyst… When we can not even separate the real “I” from the role that is being played through us, when we confuse our role to be the real “I”, how real could be the ‘mine’?

      Considering the ‘role’ as the “I” it self is a myth/ a ghost, and the ‘mine’, the attachment is a ‘ghost’ that makes us believe that we own certain people and objects. Our eyes deceive us a lot. 🙂 What we usually consider as ‘mine’, the attachment, destroys all the truth.

      regards,
      Gayathri ben.

      Like

      • ahnanda 3:27 PM on December 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        “Attachment comes from the word, ‘mine’. ”
        Attachment is not a word. Words are merely pointers. Understanding of words is not necessary. What is important is to look at the pointers and find those in ourselves. That requires honesty, observation, awareness… not “knowledge.” Churning has no consequence but it is a distraction for the mind. We could come up with wonderful ideas and never look at the self with honesty.
        The ultimate attachment is to the self, but attachment is not the issue once we discover that what we call self, is always changing. The mind is stuck with a picture, when Life is a movie. 🙂

        Like

    • Christopher joseph 5:51 AM on December 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Very rightly said Ahnanda.Esp.the example of the dog whether there is light at the end of the tunnel or no light should not make a difference.as we should live with zero expectation. THE NON BEING.😊Still my mind Questions me as to how I came into being in the present environment (in the absence of karma)🤔😊

      Like

      • ahnanda 4:32 PM on December 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        As we know, the way to calm the mind is to give it some “reason.” Make up or get convinced with whatever “reason” you like … and then BELIEVE it. That is all! 🙂

        Like

    • Dinesh C 11:58 PM on December 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      ok Hi Ahnanda, thanks a lot bro for sharing that information with us from your friend Mithias, I feel what they said is actually true, but can you please briefly tell us in what way the “No-I” is hurting us? Because if I share what I ended up doing after “Knowing” this “No-I” is that I tried applying it at the level of intellect again, though you told me that the “No-I” simply happens, there is no DOING involved in this experience.
      Regarding knowing the pulse of the other being before sharing this experience of N0-I, I have mostly shared some of my life experiences here in an open way, even about my sexuality, and experience of what happened during me being an Adhar Kumar for 6 years, in breif way! so actually to some extent you know my pulse Ahnanda! well I am just saying about what I understand from my experience… so thanks again 🙂

      Like

      • ahnanda 4:39 PM on December 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Most humans are experiencing the “I.” Brahma Kumaris “knowledge” is supportive of it. So is Christianity and most mainstream religions.
        To say : The “I” doesn’t exist. “You” are not the one controlling your Life. It is perplexing, when people are interested in becoming SOMEONE in Life and the after life. Dinesh: You try many things but it is at the intellectual level. “Trying” is “I.”
        Then the questions you may have is: Then, How do “I” improve? Again, trapped in the “I.”
        There are many things in Life the mind cannot understand for understanding comes through experience, not trough intellectual talk… 🙂
        Awareness, consciousness, observation… That is all is needed, but when we are not there, we may need to DO something to “improve.’ Thus, wherever you are, is good. Enjoy it!

        Like

    • Lakshmipriya Nagarajan 2:56 AM on December 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      yes brother, any point of knowledge if not coming into experience, it is just understanding. Yes, I need the support of murli to maintain silence in the mind. I need murli everyday as a tonic to infuse the positive thoughts in the mind otherwise it goes out of control. I do not even able to observe me as I end up with action. Murli churning helps to observe me and act according to Shrimath. For sure, I would say, that I started observing me, accept the emotions, and try to let go of it. This blog helped me a lot to churn murli in different way..Thanks a lot.

      Like

      • ahnanda 10:32 AM on December 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Lakshmipriya: Observe how you interpret “my” words according to your experiences and conditionings. You are not the only one. I am definitely learning from that. At the end, what matters is that all of these writings are “helpful to you.” It is interesting to note, that for others; these writings are not helpful at all… 🙂
        Any one wants to ask WHY?
        It doesn’t matter. Any reason may be called “knowledge” but that label doesn’t make any difference for those feeling these writings to be unhelpful or helpful.

        Like

  • avyakt7- New Generation 11:54 AM on August 15, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: avyakt7, , , , Brahma Kumarris, Buddhism, , , , , , sunyata   

    The Soul is empty 

    Explanations are only intellectual. If we agree on these explanations it does not mean that we will have the EXPERIENCE of this. Without experience, it is only another belief.

    In Brahma Kumaris is taught about the “faculties of the soul.” The mind, the intellect and the sanskaras. However, aren’t those separated “things” the role of a person?
    We try desperately to name and label things which have no meaning.
    The “Mind” is not a thing. Most of us, do not have a direct experience of what the mind is, even though we live with it every day. The “intellect” is another key label without much use without the mind. 

    Let us say that Ronald was a womanizer in one of his previous lives. However, in this Life as Ronald, he is a shy individual. Even though he has the propensity to be a womanizer, his role in this Life, has placed an obstacle for that “sanskara.” It is this conflict the one that will bring further change in Ronald which will be expressed in another role.

    Therefore, what does it matter to analyze and dissect things in our lives with neat labels, when everything is movement in togetherness?
    When we truly observe this and realize it, labels to analyze things in parts; are useless.

    Let me give another example: In Buddhism “Sunyata” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Śūnyatā) is another well-known label. Intellectuals discuss about the “true” meaning and followers will “practice” their version of it.
    In English we use the words “emptiness,” “voidness,” “nothingness,” to refer to it. Most laymen are scared of that word and the thought of being “nothing.”
    Most want to be SOMEONE and Brahma Kumaris offers that opportunity through their belief system.

    Some may be thinking, that “Buddhism is a better path!”
    NO! for nothingness gets misinterpreted by followers. However, wanting to become SOMEONE will take that person automatically into NOTHINGNESS. The word that we could use is “egoless,” just like Brahma Kumaris uses it. Nothingness is not the truth, nor being SOMEONE. It is both and none of them. So what is the truth? To be someone and to be nothing at the same time… Isn’t that a crazy, illogical  statement?

    If we are nothing but an empty container that we call “soul,” and Buddhists refer to that as “emptiness,” aren’t both talking about the same thing?

    Yes… but it is just talk for a follower.
    As long as the mind is prevalent in our BEING, all we will DO is to try to grasp concepts, ideas, information. “Empty” stuff.

    For some Brahma Kumaris followers, it is very important to know the age difference between Radhe and Krishna. Useless information, but when someone is utilized by their own mind, these trivia facts become utmost important.

    Just like separating the soul into 3 faculties. Useless.
    In which way that information could be important to you? How it could help you to transform?

    Ronald the “ex- womanizer,” may not have much luck with women in this Life. He could say: “Oh… it is my karma. I did something wrong in the past and I need to settle that account.” Do you feel guilty? Whether we know this or not, we will experience what we need to experience in Life. Ronald will experience many other things in his Life. His karmic accounts from past lives are only part of that role. Do we see that?

    Experience and AWARENESS. Observe how Nature moves. Observe that “you” are part of it. Observe that everything changes and so will “you.” It is a matter of time, a matter of roles. It is in that awareness how we could observe the beauty of Life without trying to get something out of it for “ourselves.” Whether we call that “salvation,” “heaven,” a “high status,” etc. It is this idea to accomplish something, the force that will solidify our own egos.
    That is necessary in our paths, our evolution; thus Brahma Kumaris is a “good” path but not the only one.

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh C 4:34 AM on August 19, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Your way of explaining things is really awesome bro, I read your recent article “the world of mind may not be real”. You have specified that we need to see whether our thoughts are ours or they just appear.
      With BKs, I was a bug fan of “Sister Shivani”, in her almost every lecture she focus only on one thing that “All of the thoughts are “MINE”, we create them at our own will”. But now after long time, with some practice of watching my own mind without judgement, I realize that “Thoughts are actually not our creation”. They just appear. There is also an emotionless and feeling-less moments, temporary though, for may be few seconds. But it’s really an amazing experience of just being there. 🙂
      Thanks to you Ahnanda 🙂

      Liked by 1 person

  • avyakt7- New Generation 10:48 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: answer, avyakt7, , faith, , , , , omshanti, question, ,   

    The foundation of knowledge is faith 

    Murli 23-06-17

    Sweet children, the foundation of knowledge is faith. Make effort with your intellect having faith and you will reach the destination.
    Question:
    What one aspect should you understand deeply and have faith in?
    Answer:
    The karmic accounts of all souls are about to be settled and everyone will return to the sweet home like a swarm of mosquitoes. After that, only a few souls will go to the new world. This aspect should be understood deeply and you must have faith in it.
    Question:
    Which children is the Father pleased to see?
    Answer:
    The children who completely sacrifice themselves to the Father, those who are not shaken by Maya, that is, who are as unshakeable and immovable as Angad. The Father is pleased to see such children.
    Song:
    Have patience, o mind! Your days of happiness are about to come.

    A friend, sent me this Murli for my comments.  Here they are.

    In the Sakar Murli of 6/23/17, we could observe that knowledge according to Brahma Kumaris, has a foundation before it. That foundation is faith.

    Faith is a sentimental belief beyond rational, intellectual grasp.
    Knowledge is the theory, it is the belief of “truth.” It is something that could be explained to others, rationalized. In the case of Brahma Kumaris, it is the explanation on how everything works in Life, our “purpose” and what God is.

    For most followers, there is no experience of “knowledge.”
    It is a tale for grown-ups. What is the use of knowing that God is a soul, or that “I” am a soul if there is no experience of that?
    What is the use of the knowledge of predestination if there is no experience of that?

    Those are the theoretical aspects to believe in. Blindly.
    If those aspects of knowledge where experienced, there wouldn’t be a need to have faith.

    This is the first point to observe about this Murli.

    Again, in the second question there is the aspect of “understanding” intellectually what “karma” is and to have faith in that.
    There is the “theory of karma” and we should act according to our understanding of it.
    I act in a certain way and there are consequences of those actions. Karma is action.
    Let us say that I am riding my bike and a lizard appears from nowhere. I still have time to use my brakes, but I decide to go on thinking the lizard will “see” the bike. It doesn’t happen. The lizard gets run over. That is the action. What are the consequences?
    Karma is not as simple as that. INTENTION is a big player in every karmic consequence. However, that is not explained in Brahma Kumaris knowledge. A “black or white” knowledge is easy to follow, easy to understand; however, it is far from what it “is.”
    Brahma Kumaris is the path of the mind. To conquer the mind means to follow some activities, so even if internally thoughts are infused with negativity, even if the root is negativity, “I” will re-shape them into some learned “positivity” and reinforce that with some actions, karma, doings.

    We have not changed the source. No matter what we DO. Consider that.

    The second question in the Murli, is about “sacrifice” for the “Father.”
    How do you sacrifice? What is the need to sacrifice?
    Those are the main questions to answer. In my experience, any form of DOING for others, may have good reviews from others, it may be morally accepted and praised, but we are merely conforming to our conditioning.

    To follow a religious path is to “sacrifice” yourself. But, don’t believe that something “good” will emerge out of that. No matter how “unshakable” (stubborn) we become.
    Love has been the way, but when we do not know love, sacrifice has been invented.

    The “song” in the Murli gives importance to the mind. There is no happiness for the mind. The whole thing about the mind is to be active, to search for things, to be in movement wanting, desiring, acquiring, looking for something else.
    Happiness is in no mind, but this is not something to DO. It happens.

    For the common good.

     
    • Gayathri 9:04 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Om shanti.

      Thanks brother for explaining. The ‘no mind’ stage comes when we learn / realise to accept the drama as it is. Then there will be no goals to achieve, no need to criticise others.

      Having total trust in the drama that everything that is happening and the things that we are going to do are going to be the accurate ones makes our life’s journey entertaining. We can not become a ‘saint’ in one day even though we know all the rules and principles that one has to follow’ to become’ one. The day we become real ‘saints’ our behaviour would automatically be ‘saintly’. 🙂

      We do not need to ‘reach’ somewhere, we just have to keep going and enjoying life.

      (Today Gayathri ben has been speaking like an experienced spiritual person! Actually she has not reached that stage, she is just imagining the future path. 🙂 )

      best wishes,
      Gayathri.

      Liked by 1 person

  • avyakt7- New Generation 11:36 AM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: avyakt7, , , deeds, , , karmana, mansa, , , , , wacha, words   

    Question: How to make thoughts, words and deeds to be the same? 

    “I need your help to explain us two of the very beneficial teachings which I still have not been able to implement 100%, but want to as they are required to keep the flow of my life smoother. So here are those two teachings:
    No 1: Your thoughts, words and actions should be in harmony, what you think, same thinking should be reflected in your words and actions. (Mansa, Wacha and Karmana should be same)
    No 2: Abstain yourself from creation of waste thoughts.
    The only reason I still want to implement these two teachings in me is that I think about one thing, I say another thing and end up doing totally different third thing in actions. Can you PLEASE explain what a person can do (By now I know that you use DO and BE in caps in all of your articles ) to implement these two things by being and by not being a BK.”

    Thank you for your interesting question.

    Yes, I use caps for BE and DO, hoping readers will find that there is a huge difference.
    In your question, you want to “implement” a teaching. That sounds to me like “office world” conditioning. There, you implement plans, implement solutions, etc.
    When we are referring to BEING, it does not work like that.

    When the Brahma Kumaris teachings says: “Your thoughts, words and actions should be in harmony or be the same,” that teaching is not telling the follower to DO something, to implement something to “achieve” that goal, although that is the interpretation. Followers are unaware of the “office word” conditioning and unaware of how DOING something who you are not, only covers who you ARE .

    That teaching is merely describing how a BEING in harmony will express himself. Most want to BE that, but they do not acknowledge who they ARE now first. They just reject that.

    Let me ask the question: Are “your” thoughts really “yours”? If they are, why you cannot stop them at will? Why is it so difficult to “create” loving, good, wholesome thoughts all the time?
    That is the first realization to go into.

    BEING attracts particular thoughts. Thus, what about if you find that those thoughts are not really created, willfully thought by you, but that they just appear?
    Then the realization to OBSERVE those thoughts will be obvious, to use another Brahma Kumaris teaching, to be a “detached observer” of those thoughts.

    If you OBSERVE those thoughts appearing in the sky of your mind, could we say that “you need to abstain from creating waste thoughts”?
    We cannot, for those are not “my” thoughts.
    What is the issue then? We are not AWARE to OBSERVE. We IDENTIFY with everything that is going through the mind as “mine.”

    If there is that detachment from thoughts, what will be the problem then? None. If you FEEL what your ACTION should be and DO it; wouldn’t your words be along those lines?
    But we are afraid of discovering who we ARE. We want to look respectable, we want to DO the “right” thing and not DO according to what truly I AM. Thus, we miss the greatest opportunity to discover who I AM. It is through that discovery how change happens without DOING a thing.

    Would you like to DO something useful in your Life?
    Learn to OBSERVE yourself. Learn to read yourself as you can do with a friend. This is not meant to judge yourself, but to allow that to BE, so if you realize it, see it, not intellectually but consciously, change is inevitable.

    However, most “spiritual” teachings have been distorted through some “easy to follow” interpretation to cater to the masses.

    This is easy to understand: If you don’t like it, change it. If you think bad things, change it to good things… The power is on that “I” but yet, “I” cannot stop thoughts.
    We are not aware on how we change the original bad thought into a good one by faking it. The root is “bad” and we change the branch and leaf of the tree of a thought to make it “good.”
    That is called inner dishonesty.

    How long can we go with that “practice”? Until we become AWARE.

    For the common good.

     
  • avyakt7- New Generation 10:52 AM on June 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , avyakt7, , , , , , , , , , satopradhan, sinful, ,   

    Deconditioning through Brahma Kumaris 

    Our consciousness will change once there is experiential awareness. Consciousness does not change by mere regurgitation of “Knowledge/ Gyan.”

    For this to happen, there is a need for a space away from the elements of conditioning. In most cases, society is the biggest source of conditioning, thus anything that will keep us away from society will give us the space needed for awareness to appear.

    In my time as a Brahma Kumaris follower, I can now see; how the above explanation was present.
    To hang out only with BK followers, to only eat the food prepared by them, to follow their codes of conduct and to spend most of my time with Brahma Kumaris “business,” was the way to create that space of separation from mainstream society.

    Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to see at that time how deconditioning was operating: I wasn’t watching TV or going to the movies, for that was considered a waste of time and a source of “tamopradhan” vibes. I wasn’t around my family members. Work was “better” if it did not take much of my time after the requirements to sustain myself were fulfilled. Sexuality was shut down as a way to avoid further mingling and attachment with others and my body. In a nutshell, most ways of conditioning that society values, were taken away. At that time, my mind was “black or white,” as the knowledge/Gyan appeared to me: “I am becoming satopradhan (good) while society’s way was corrupted, tamopradhan. A rejection to mainstream society arrived, which was largely supported by hearing the daily Sakar Murlis.

    Observe how deconditioning takes place, although; a new conditioning was placed in my mind instead. This conditioning is the one that becomes hard for a “firm” follower to get rid of, once the person leaves the Brahma Kumaris movement.
    Why?
    The feeling of guilt is unavoidable. The Brahma Kumaris movement is an extraordinary deconditioning path, which leaves no way to “escape” for a follower who is preoccupied in gaining Godly favors in heaven or in this Life, or for a follower who has this idea that to be “good” is to follow a script given by someone else. Usually this follower is an achiever, who is trading mainstream ways into what he may think are “spiritual” ways.  This follower has fear of failure and not to comply with the teachings of “god.”  That fear will manifest eventually in anger.

    An ex-follower will use scientific evidence to prove the BK teachings “wrong,” to be at peace with his guilt. Science is one of the greatest conditioning paths that mainstream society has. To believe in scientific research is for the BEING, at the same level of believing in some deep rooted traditional belief system. Both conditioning paths, will take away the ability of the individual to discover his own truth, to observe himself, to become AWARE.

    Nevertheless, conditionings paths are not “bad.” They are necessary to live in society, in groups. But, for someone who is walking the path of self-realization, these props of conditioning will need to be left aside, to discover our own self. This event has a timing and it is different for every individual.

    For the common good.

     
  • avyakt7- New Generation 5:34 AM on May 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: avyakt7, , , , , , , ,   

    Is the knowledge of Brahma Kumaris the “truth”? 

    Probably many BK followers looking at this website may not resist in reading this article. The title is very eye catching.
    Followers want to make sure if what they are into is the “truth.” Nothing else matters.
    Followers want to make sure and jump in the bandwagon of “truth.”

    Avyakt7 believed through his experience and his understanding a few years ago, that what Brahma Kumaris teaches is the “truth.”
    While at that stage of consciousness, everything made sense and what didn’t make sense could be rationalized into something that did make sense. That was perfect! Having the “truth” is an ego booster and a source of tranquility knowing that “I am safe” in the afterlife.

    Now, Avyakt7- NG ( Ahnanda) has a different view.
    Ahnanda is not interested in “truth” for he understands that what we see, perceive and comprehend is part of the “role” thus “REALITY” depends on what we are “equipped with” for perception.

    “The body is perishable whereas the soul is imperishable. A total part is recorded in this tiny soul. It is such a wonder! Even scientists do not understand this. An immortal, imperishable part is recorded in this tiny soul. The soul is imperishable and his part is also imperishable.” SM 5/22/17

    For instance, now I can see that the body is NOT perishable although it perishes. Doesn’t make sense? That is because the cycle of time is not understood. The soul is imperishable, its part is imperishable and therefore, the body is imperishable for it is part of the role.

    I just corrected a Murli point. Look at that! Everything that exists is imperishable.

    Observe that our level of perception and understanding is different. Who is right? Who is wrong? Who has the “truth”?
    None of that is important. “Having the truth” is not important at all in Life.

    The “truth” may be important as some theory that needs to be validated by followers living in the mind, to make sense of an ever-changing world, but that is artificial.

    BEING does not change through understanding of some dogma labeled as “truth.”
    What truly matters is the AWARENESS of how everything is perishable: Ideas, truths, beliefs, perceptions… there is nothing that could last…

    Wait a minute! You just said that everything is imperishable and now you are saying that it is perishable! You are contradicting yourself!

    Yes. Do you see the “truth” in that? Does it matter?
    It is just a matter of perception. Do we see the “truth” in that?
    If the truth is a perception and perceptions change according to the location of our consciousness, then what is truly true?
    Food for thought.

    Brahma Kumaris knowledge is true for certain consciousness and false for others. Brahma kumaris knowledge is neither “true” or “false” for fewer consciousness… and that could be closer to the “truth,” although if only few can understand the above, then the “truth” could be far away… for most but not few.

    But…if “Few” can understand and “Most” cannot, it is obvious that “the truth” will be something that “Most” can understand… Even though the “truth” is in the “Few.”

    That is why a “best seller” or a “spiritual book” or “scripture” given for the understanding of “Most” is far away from the “truth” …  😉
    Food for thought.

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh Chawla 1:19 AM on May 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Ahnanda, reading and understanding your articles is always interesting but requires some time to grasp. 🙂
      I was an “Adhar Kumar” with BKs for 6 years, and I too had this kind of question that whether what I am following and practising is the ULTIMATE truth or may be there is something beyond this too. And that was mainly because of the reason that most of the practices seemed to me as if I am creating all that inside my mind, the talk with Shiva Baba, trying to focus on Shiv Baba for longer and all that.

      I find your articles quite paradoxical sometimes and yet quite closer to truth, I am simply trying to share what I feel about Ahnanda’s writing. At the same time, your articles have also helped me to come to a conclusion that yes there are many other things beyond BK system as well. Thanks for writing this Bro… 🙂 Om shanti 🙂

      Liked by 1 person

  • avyakt7- New Generation 3:53 AM on May 18, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: avyakt7, , , , , , murli may 17, murlis   

    Murli point- May 17, 2017 

    “Sweet children, become conquerors of sleep, stay awake at night and churn knowledge, stay in remembrance of the Father and your mercury of happiness will rise.
    Question:

    There are many holidays in Bharat, but you don’t get a holiday in the confluence age for even a second; why?
    Answer:

    Because every second of the confluence age is most valuable. You have to remember the Father in every breath. Remain engaged in service, day and night. Become obedient and faithful, have your sins absolved by having remembrance and return straight home with honour. You have to become free from punishment and make both the soul and the body pure. This is why you cannot get a holiday for even a second.”

    Sakar Murlis have value to inspire “effort makers” to DO many things which are thought that will bring benefit to the follower.
    The downside is that when taken literally in particular settings, it could actually hurt the follower.
    Nevertheless; as the Drama has it, even though a follower follows a direction which may seem “outlandish,” he may find the benefit that he was seeking, although it will be for a limited  time only.

    A “conqueror of sleep” is one of those items that BKs may discover could benefit in some ways (Waking up early and going to bed early, if the follower did not have any discipline before) but many circumstances may change around the individual. Time to change has arrived, but the follower may want to stick with his mental ideals and make this valuable Life in the “confluence age” a fearful experience.

    “Stay awake at night and churn knowledge,” could be interpreted in many ways, thus it is useless as a “direction,” for it will not fit everyone’s case.

    BK knowledge has the “remembrance of the father” as a direction. However, that “direction” is interpreted in many ways. Paradoxically, that is actually the “success” of that direction. It is highly ambiguous.

    “Why that BK did not “succeed”? “He did not remember the father appropriately. That is why he is gone. He failed. His fortune is gone…”

    Let me add another layer to remembrance: “He did not have enough yoga.” And a different spin: “He did not DO enough mansa seva.”

    They are all pretty much the same thing, but because it is so open for interpretation, and BK Raja yoga is the “yoga” of the mind; that ambiguousness makes for mental “churning” which is necessary in BK knowledge to keep the mind of the follower “busy.”

    For someone living in the mind, a busy mind is his Life and nothing better than churning knowledge for that busy-ness.

    I am merely describing the method.  In a different consciousness, out of the mind, that method is no longer needed.

    “Become obedient and faithful, have your sins absolved through remembrance… so you don’t experience punishment.”
    It is assumed that these things will take time, lots of DOING, that is why there is no time for a break.
    It is assumed that the follower is a child who needs to comply with some authority. That is part of the conditioning to last in the BK life.

    Nevertheless, those DOINGS are not guarantee that the follower will “make both the body and soul pure.”

    There is no guarantee at all unless the follower DOES the method “right,” but the “method” is open for interpretation. Who has the “right” method explained ?   Not even the Murlis.  

    For the common good.

     
c
Compose new post
j
Next post/Next comment
k
Previous post/Previous comment
r
Reply
e
Edit
o
Show/Hide comments
t
Go to top
l
Go to login
h
Show/Hide help
shift + esc
Cancel