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  • avyakt7- New Generation 7:47 AM on October 30, 2019 Permalink | Reply
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    Some clarifications about the purpose of this blog 

    It is important for the reader to understand that the purpose of this blog is to share my experiences in the Brahma Kumaris path.
    As such, I will share the experiences/realizations I had while in the BK path and also out of the BK path.
    Avyakt7-NG is not “against” BK nor in “favor” of.
    Many articles here will go into deeper points in BK knowledge, as product of my own experiences and understanding brought to me by Life itself. That I will share. For those who would like articles about gyan while I was a BK; those could be found in the blog “Exploring the Depth of Living” from 2012 until 2013.
    Also, it is important to share the exiting process of the BK world (according to my experience), as there are many BKs in transition.

    As far as I am concerned if a reader would like me to “churn” some aspect of gyan; it is on that reader to provide the material. Otherwise, I will go on as inspiration happens and that means that some articles may be perceived as “against BK” or “pro BK” by readers, according to their own perspectives.

    A reader posted this comment: “Bks are definitely special, they are not ordinary, they have the aspirations to follow the path of truth.”
    It is important to realize that every human being is unique but not “special.” That sense of being “special” is truly a source of “maya” in many followers, not only in the BK path but in other paths as well.
    Moreover, Avyakt7-NG is not interested in the path of “truth.” Avyakt7-NG is interested in the path of honesty. What is that path? Inner honesty rather than the perception of outer “truth.”

    Another reader posted: “There’s nothing wrong with a healthy contempt towards spiritual deceivers.”
    I wonder what is “healthy” about contempt? That sounds like a politically correct line. There is no “healthy” contempt but only contempt. No matter how many pretty words we add around it.

    When I posted “Ill feelings towards the BK system will only make our mental dependency stronger” means that any sort of ill feelings creates a resistance, a trigger, a button waiting to be pushed; and as psychologist Carl Jung said:”what you resist not only persists, but will grow in size.” Or Eckhart Tolle: “Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”
    Obviously, that is not the way to fully exit from the BK path, for truly; we haven’t exited yet if we are rejecting it.
    As far as I remember, no one in the BK world coerced me to stay as a BK. It was my own decision. I trust that to be the case of the majority of ex-Bks as well. Thus, those 10 years that I spent as BK were my own decision and I take responsibility for that. No need to blame anyone. At the same time those years were truly a teaching experience for me, something which has helped me to grow as a person.  BK is perhaps a “true” path for  many followers but for myself, it was the beginning. Elementary school is good but it is not the only path when we experience high school. One path is only the preparation for the other. Through the understanding that every Life experience has its own value and need, there may be a “healthy” way out of the BK system.

    • lakshmipriya 1:01 AM on October 31, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      My intention was to say, Being special is to see only special in others. As we are in body conscious, the soul consciousness is depicted as our specialty and every effort to become soul conscious is considered as special effort. I meant in that way Bks are special. The very objective of the knowledge is to see the true things. Brother, probably I am not very good in writing, probably it was not interpreting my intentions accurately.
      The Bk knowledge is actually making me humble, see the things as it is. See that every soul has their own part to play. To understand this special aspects of the unlimited play, one shall have refined intellect and big heart.
      The knowledge, yoga, inculcation of divine characters and spiritual powers and help others to help themselves is the way to reach the true destiny, that is the true path which i meant.

      The honest heart can only identify the truth. Honesty, in fact is the subset of Truth. Truth is to see real me, real you and to experience my nature.


      • avyakt7- New Generation 9:15 PM on October 31, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        “Tripplanneraustralia” was the account that I responded to. Didn’t know you are using 2 accounts. Lakshmipriya, please do not use tripplanneraustralia in this blog as it will be blocked.
        Your reply gave me further inspiration for the next article. In the meantime, consider the last 2 lines of your reply. “Honesty” as a subset of truth, when you said that an honest heart is the requisite to identify truth. A requisite is not a subset. Thanks.


        • lakshmipriya 12:32 AM on November 14, 2019 Permalink | Reply

          I did not realize that I replied using this account. Sorry for that .

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    • Gayathri 4:39 AM on October 31, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Welcome back, brother. It is a well-written article. Thanks.


    • ex-l 8:11 AM on November 5, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      I take the definition of “holding someone/something in contempt” to be “considering them to be unworthy of respect or attention”. I was differentiate between a ‘healthy contempt’, being that which allows someone to step out or aside from BKism; and an ‘unhealthy contempt’ being a kind of obsessive contempt presumably Jung or Tolle is talking about. You might use a different word like disinterest or detachment?

      However, I would have to point out that neither of those individuals’ quotes are universal laws. I find them both to be clearly untrue at many levels.

      I think I would argue that individuals remain mentally enslaved by BKism, and particularly the leadership, through unhealthy states of what are encouraged within BKism as “showing respect” (to elders etc) long after they have stopped believing in The Knowledge™.

      Where I think the non-committal position that you are taking is incomplete is where it relinquishes any responsibility for the common space that we all share, defining space at all levels from spiritual and mental right down to societal, or even geographic.

      For example, if you have a known thief in your village, or a land owner grabbing common land for their own benefit, or a corporation poisoning its rivers, would you adopt a position of neither “against” nor in “favor” of them, and allow them to continue running amok without saying anything?

      What sort of person would you be if you did?

      I think to free oneself from the mental shackles of BKism, one has to pass through a stage of finding it, them or its leaders “unworthy of respect or attention”.

      I reject the usual BK defence, of “no one is forcing anyone to stay”. That’s not the way it works (except, perhaps, the young girls/women in India). For most, it is an enslavement exploiting largely pre-conditioned social and religious programming and deepset human fears, amongst other influences. And, yes, it is largely a self-entrapment in the manner of which the meditation practice is also largely self-hypnotic.

      The enslaved teach us to enslave ourselves, and then teach others to enslave themselves, calling it liberation in life.

      Perhaps just I hear of a lot more truly disgusting things that the Brahma Kumari leadership and some of its following get up than you.


    • lakshmipriya 11:50 PM on November 13, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      The very purpose of the entire knowledge is to see no defects neither in the self nor in others. I am still on the journey of constantly attaining. While we be aware of what is happening around us, the mind and intellect shall not churn that. “See, but do not see”. This is what baba says in murlis. Baba always reminds us, “Follow Father, not sister, brother etc”. When we clearly see something wrong, we shall understand it is also the part of their journey. Baba addresses Kumaris, kumars, mothers, adhar kumars and teachers separately and love fully cautions how we are derailing from our purpose every now and then. If we are going deep into the knowledge and make all relationships with Baba, we can truly become non-judgmental. Honesty is also to understand where I am on this.


  • avyakt7- New Generation 4:37 AM on July 20, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    When is the time to leave BK? 

    For most the answer is “never.” But the recognition that Life changes as well as what we call “self” is not there yet. That “never” also means “never change,” which is utopia.

    As mentioned in the last article, the BK path is like a pluming pipe. It conduits followers through it. Followers are channeled to a “worthwhile” purpose in Life. That is helpful for many as otherwise, they may feel lost, alone.
    The pipe is already made. Attempts to drill it  and change it around so the water leaks into other places is discouraged by the BK movement. It is understandable.

    Everything works fine while a person feels fulfilled. He feels at “home.”
    However, there may be times when the path is no longer appreciated as giving fulfillment, but rather as constrictive, detrimental to our health by squeezing the life out of it.

    It is also understandable that many followers may have experienced this many times in their BK Life, however; they stayed and persisted. Will power was used and perhaps other great experiences happened because of that persistence. That was the incentive needed to stick around!

    Sometimes, the water will start leaking through the pipe. It may be a small aperture which was made through the same force of running water itself. The pipe is no longer enough.

    We could attempt to patch it, we could come back again some other time… there are many solutions not to break away.

    The thought of leaving may be coming to our minds, but fear of losing everything we already built (relationships, positions, power, a routine or life style) will keep us there.

    Whether we stay or not, is not the question. Truly, it doesn’t matter. What matters is if we are “true” to ourselves.

    Many have given their lives and gone “through the rainbow” early, out of some sickness. They used their will power alone to stay as long as they did, but their “effort” will not take them to “heaven.”
    The act of not listening to inner feelings, was a violent act to the self.  For outsiders, it may look as the act of a “pukka soul.” But the crucifixion is hidden inside. That is dishonesty with the self.

    Paradoxically, we went through our fears to join the BK religion and to depart from mainstream society’s ways. Now, we may need to go through our fears to go away from it… or to stay.
    What is the teaching?
    To acknowledge our fears. The situations are only pointing to fear, which otherwise, we wouldn’t be able to perceive. 

    When the mind traps a person with a belief system, it is hard to listen to our feelings.
    When a person lives Life through the acknowledgement of inner feelings only, the mind may resent that journey.

    When the mind and feelings are in harmony, there is unity, congruency, beauty. Any action in that state is what it needs to BE and that is way more important, than to choose what seems for the mind and its conditioning,  to be “right.”

    For the common good.

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