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  • avyakt7- New Generation 9:32 AM on October 5, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , capacity of the soul, , , , krishna, , , , , , rosary of victory, tamopradhan world   

    Misunderstood points in gyan: Numberwise 

    I will start a little series labeled as: Misunderstood points in gyan.
    The purpose is to look at the same Murli point from a distinct perspective. This is necessary to have a deeper understanding of Brahma Kumaris gyan. Otherwise, a limited understanding means misinterpretation for Life and the Universe are greater than a particular perspective of a religion or ideology.

    The typical way “numberwise” is interpreted in Brahma Kumaris is as follows: Every “soul” has a particular capacity, when compared with others, that will give a “soul” a particular ordinal number, a “ranking.”

    In Brahma Kumaris, the most celebrated capacity is labeled as “purity.”
    Therefore, Brahma Baba (founder) is considered number “1” in purity. As a consequence, Brahma Baba will be the first emperor of the “Golden age.” (Narayan I- Krishna.)
    That is the belief.

    In Brahma Kumaris, it is known that because Brahma Baba is the “first pure soul,” he will also be the “first impure.”

    Note that the knowledge of polarity and duality is within that simple affirmation.
    However, the “churning” will stop there, as it is convenient to demonstrate to a follower, the importance of “making effort” to become “number 1,” or rather close to that number.

    As it is said in Brahma Kumaris: “Position 1 and 2 are already taken (Brahma Baba and Mama who will be Krishna and Radhe respectively) but the other numbers are available…”

    That affirmation gave place to infantile games: The top 8 souls. Who is number 3, 4,5,6,7,8?
    “Those souls will not get much “punishment” at the end,” it is said. “Punishment” is important for religions targeting beginners, in their seeking journey.
    Those souls will be Narayan 3 to 8 in the Golden Age.
    All of that is only entertainment for the mind, childish games and a little push for the ego to “become one of them.” It is easier to say “become #1” but this is not a matter of DOING things but on BEING it (embodiment) and that depends on where the individual is positioned, in his range of experiences in the cycle of time.

    Of course, 8 was expanded to 16, 108, 1024, etc. the popular “rosary of victorious souls.”

    In Life, numbers are non-existent. Thus, “Numberwise” cannot be. A “ranking” is a human belief which does not apply to Life. It is merely a “teaching tool” to give a mental carrot to a donkey, who is eager to become SOMEONE.

    Observe that the “purity” of Brahma Kumaris “souls” are in direct proportion to their impurity. Following the belief, there cannot be a more impure soul than a Brahma Kumaris follower. 

    We can also discover that by following the BK belief, Brahma Baba started the impure world, followed by BKs.
    Why is the world “impure”? Because of BKs.
    The “tamopradhan world” is the creation of BKs.
    If this article is understood in its extent, it will be obvious to observe that anything that we believe to BE (pure, compassionate, angelic, etc.) it is certain that we have been or will be the opposite as well (impure, violent, evil, etc.) This is how the feeling of guilt started in our society. We want to pick one side of a coin only, knowing that it has 2.

    In other words, there is the contrast in Life. There is duality; but there is no “numberwise.” That is a BK creation, which is necessary to enhance the sense of being “special;” but that is a necessary enhancing ego trip, to dissolve it.

    For the common good.

     
    • Gayathri 9:29 PM on October 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Om shanti brother. Trying for the hundredth time (??) to send my comments to this blog. For your information, your blog has become tamopradhan; it is choosy about the comments, it is not a detached observer, does not treat every comment with equanimity. 🙂

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    • Gayathri 9:42 PM on October 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      It seems accusing your blog has worked! 🙂 🙂 In the mean time i have forgotten what i wanted to say. 😦

      Yes, i had those experiences too.. i was unaware of what was happening inside me ( the ‘spiritual’ ego building up) till i met a few people who were a sort of down to earth and who did better than I did while facing certain situations…. a revelation for me.

      Yes, the “I” is quite deceptive.

      Can i share a joke here? 🙂 My brother is a doctor and most of his close friends are doctors from the same hospital and i ‘know’ many of them. One day, while chatting with me, he was describing a friend as an ‘Eye specialist’. Later on, i realised that that particular person was an Engineer by profession.. and i got confused as to why my brother was calling him an ‘Eye specialist’. Then my dear brother explained to me that that Engineer friend has a lot of EGO hence is called an “I”- specialist.

      regards,
      Gayathri ben.

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    • Dinesh C 10:54 AM on October 8, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Ahnanda, nice series taken bro 🙂

      So here am I with a query related to misunderstanding gyan points… your view point on same will really enhance my exploration 🙂
      In the second lesson when they give the introduction of the father (Shiv Baba), they associate Gautam Bhudda and Mahavira as well in that lesson, claiming that they witnessed Shiv baba in their meditation, especially about Gautam Bhudda. Now my exploration of Bhuddism says that either Bhudda never spoke about God or he spoke just once or twice about God. He never claimed to find God or witness God in his meditation. Can you please share your view point on this thing and comment on Gautam Bhudda’s view on God as well. Thanks for sharing your wisdom to enhance our journey 🙂

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 11:54 AM on August 15, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , Brahma Kumarris, Buddhism, , , krishna, , , sunyata   

    The Soul is empty 

    Explanations are only intellectual. If we agree on these explanations it does not mean that we will have the EXPERIENCE of this. Without experience, it is only another belief.

    In Brahma Kumaris is taught about the “faculties of the soul.” The mind, the intellect and the sanskaras. However, aren’t those separated “things” the role of a person?
    We try desperately to name and label things which have no meaning.
    The “Mind” is not a thing. Most of us, do not have a direct experience of what the mind is, even though we live with it every day. The “intellect” is another key label without much use without the mind. 

    Let us say that Ronald was a womanizer in one of his previous lives. However, in this Life as Ronald, he is a shy individual. Even though he has the propensity to be a womanizer, his role in this Life, has placed an obstacle for that “sanskara.” It is this conflict the one that will bring further change in Ronald which will be expressed in another role.

    Therefore, what does it matter to analyze and dissect things in our lives with neat labels, when everything is movement in togetherness?
    When we truly observe this and realize it, labels to analyze things in parts; are useless.

    Let me give another example: In Buddhism “Sunyata” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Śūnyatā) is another well-known label. Intellectuals discuss about the “true” meaning and followers will “practice” their version of it.
    In English we use the words “emptiness,” “voidness,” “nothingness,” to refer to it. Most laymen are scared of that word and the thought of being “nothing.”
    Most want to be SOMEONE and Brahma Kumaris offers that opportunity through their belief system.

    Some may be thinking, that “Buddhism is a better path!”
    NO! for nothingness gets misinterpreted by followers. However, wanting to become SOMEONE will take that person automatically into NOTHINGNESS. The word that we could use is “egoless,” just like Brahma Kumaris uses it. Nothingness is not the truth, nor being SOMEONE. It is both and none of them. So what is the truth? To be someone and to be nothing at the same time… Isn’t that a crazy, illogical  statement?

    If we are nothing but an empty container that we call “soul,” and Buddhists refer to that as “emptiness,” aren’t both talking about the same thing?

    Yes… but it is just talk for a follower.
    As long as the mind is prevalent in our BEING, all we will DO is to try to grasp concepts, ideas, information. “Empty” stuff.

    For some Brahma Kumaris followers, it is very important to know the age difference between Radhe and Krishna. Useless information, but when someone is utilized by their own mind, these trivia facts become utmost important.

    Just like separating the soul into 3 faculties. Useless.
    In which way that information could be important to you? How it could help you to transform?

    Ronald the “ex- womanizer,” may not have much luck with women in this Life. He could say: “Oh… it is my karma. I did something wrong in the past and I need to settle that account.” Do you feel guilty? Whether we know this or not, we will experience what we need to experience in Life. Ronald will experience many other things in his Life. His karmic accounts from past lives are only part of that role. Do we see that?

    Experience and AWARENESS. Observe how Nature moves. Observe that “you” are part of it. Observe that everything changes and so will “you.” It is a matter of time, a matter of roles. It is in that awareness how we could observe the beauty of Life without trying to get something out of it for “ourselves.” Whether we call that “salvation,” “heaven,” a “high status,” etc. It is this idea to accomplish something, the force that will solidify our own egos.
    That is necessary in our paths, our evolution; thus Brahma Kumaris is a “good” path but not the only one.

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh C 4:34 AM on August 19, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Your way of explaining things is really awesome bro, I read your recent article “the world of mind may not be real”. You have specified that we need to see whether our thoughts are ours or they just appear.
      With BKs, I was a bug fan of “Sister Shivani”, in her almost every lecture she focus only on one thing that “All of the thoughts are “MINE”, we create them at our own will”. But now after long time, with some practice of watching my own mind without judgement, I realize that “Thoughts are actually not our creation”. They just appear. There is also an emotionless and feeling-less moments, temporary though, for may be few seconds. But it’s really an amazing experience of just being there. 🙂
      Thanks to you Ahnanda 🙂

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