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  • avyakt7- New Generation 7:56 AM on February 6, 2019 Permalink | Reply
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    Dealing with politics inside BK 

    Every organized religion eventually will be run by ordinary individuals.
    This means that all the conditioning learned in society will be applied into their “religious” or “spiritual” job.
    It would be naive to believe that leaders or figureheads run the organization. Greater hierarchy, greater will be the interests of individuals going into different directions.
    At the end of the game for an organization to survive, it will need funds, it will need name recognition and it will need strings to pull from “up above and below.”
    This is just like any other organization.

    A dedicated follower will need to discern between politics and the possibility of living a meaningful spiritual experience.
    Basically, all that is learned in the BK as values, should be applied first when dealing within the organization.
    A BK life is meant to be one of service, and for that is necessary to mingle with different individuals from all walks of life, even the political minded ones.

    As mentioned before, the core of living a “spiritual” life is in expanding our consciousness. That means, to become aware of the inner workings of our minds, emotions and feelings. Every situation in Life, should measure those 3 aspects.

    Typically, Avyakt7-NG ignores all aspects related with the perception of BK politics. After all, spirituality is not politics. It didn’t have any consequence to me while I was a BK. For instance, If a senior behaved in a certain way, or if she did something suspicious, or if someone acted against the principles; all of that did not mean anything to me. I wasn’t there for anyone but for my conviction that I found God and that I wanted to become an “angel.”
    That ideal entails, the acceptance of human ways and the understanding that everyone has a right to perform their role in Life. That was a huge protection.

    It is not my concern to “save” any individual from being misled by some political minded BK follower. I understand that Life has many ways to teach and that every experience has value in our lives. Others may feel different and that is fine too.

    At the end of the day, joining an organization for “spiritual” reasons is not depending on the news or popular opinion. For me all depends on feeling if I belong there.

    That sense of belonging is quite important, for it will give us identity and support during our journey.

    Belonging to the “Father” does not relate with politics or wrong human behavior. It is a commitment to what we feel is true. It is to acknowledge our own experience and go with that.
    That trust ultimately, is what will take us to a different “place.”

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 7:00 AM on March 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Questions: BapDada’s ways… 

    ..Although I have left BKs completely, don’t do amrit vela, no more morning murli classes thrice a week… 🙂 But recently, I started reading murli’s again from a different consciousness, not the judgemental consciousness but with inquisitive awareness 🙂
    So recently, bapdada has spoken about comparison between double foreigners and Indians (Bharatwasis), first bapdada goes on a tour with his children for something that he only knows!

    Now the first question here is, does that tour actually happens or it is a way of bapdada teaching something to his children through some way of telling a story kind of thing?

    Thank you for your question. “Inquisitive awareness” is not a different type of consciousness. It is your same consciousness with a different belief system. That is all.
    Your first answer is BOTH. BapDada moves in a different level (subtle) which most individuals in the physical plane are unaware of. The subtle level has great impact on the physical level.

    He goes ahead and states that on his tour he saw that Westerners have started becoming more spiritual than Indians, although spirituality belongs to Indians and not westeners!
    Now second question is, why baba is comparing at first and secondly how come spirituality belongs to only Indians and not to entire humanity? Why Indians are said by baba to be of highest thing, and westerner of low clan! Isn’t it prejudice!

    Second answer: Baba is making a point by using a comparison. Yes, “Spirituality” was made up by Indians. The Guru that could walk on water, the one who could be buried alive for many days and still live, the one who could project his image to many followers in different cities at the same time, the one who could get favors from spirits, the one who could do many “miracles,” the one who could predict the future etc… and their methods to be “more spiritual” such as mortifying the body, denying pleasure to the senses, controlling eating, sleeping, breathing, sex, etc. Who invented all that “spirituality”? Indians for the most part. That is the spirituality exported to Westerners.
    Most “normal” people will look for those “spiritual masters” for show value or need.
    Ahnanda has shared that he does not see any value in the word “spirituality” but rather in “living Life with joy.” That kind of “spirituality” does not belong to Indians, but to the whole world.

    I have never heard in a Murli, that Baba is making the point that Indians “are higher and Westerners of lower clan.” As far as I see, that “prejudice” may be only a distortion of your mind unless you could show more evidence.

    He goes further and says that today, countries are being run helplessly (in majbori), politicians are not willing to run the countries but they still for the sake of just doing it!
    Third question is, why God is interfering in politics and all, here on earth, people who attain enlightenment don’t speak about politics at all! That’s what my knowledge about enlightened beings says! How God can comment on politics! He says that we need souls of flying stage (udti kala) to run a country properly!

    The answer of your third question is : You are generalizing through a belief that enlightened beings do not speak about politics.
    An enlightened individual could speak about politics and say any words he wishes to, depending on the need of time and circumstances. Jesus was part of the politics of his time. His crucifixion was all politics. Similarly, Osho was in jail in the USA for political reasons. Enlightenment does not mean to be restricted to comply with some belief that “this is spiritual” and “that is not.”

    Well, I request you to take these questions that I have asked and please help us in understanding from a different consciousness.

    I cannot help anyone understand from a different consciousness. Consciousness happens.

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh Chawla 11:58 AM on April 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Okay, thank you so much for yours answers, after I read answers and while I was reading, I got a few thing from myself, is Ahnanda not being SELF contradictory in his second answer! Can comparison be used with BEING with comparison!
      well if I go ahead with my reply, I will simply be argumentative and may be like my ego will start proving me right rather accepting Ahnanda’s answers!
      Ahnanda has advised us to be free from words, to go beyond words, I personally too think that it’s time for me to go beyond words and seek more of my own SILENT consciousness 🙂

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      • Dinesh Chawla 11:59 AM on April 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        I mean “Can comparison be used without BEING with comparison” 🙂 in above reply.

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