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  • avyakt7- New Generation 1:11 PM on December 29, 2021 Permalink | Reply
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    The understanding of the “truth.” 

    Many times Life will challenge us with some experience which wasn’t the one which our idea or thought believed it “should be.”

    I find that writing “spiritual topics” could be very vague if I do not take sides and pick options, but to pick an option means to limit what “could be.”

    For instance, I recall the way a BK Sakar Murli is written; it reminds me the need to be specific, black or white. As writings become more vague, interpretations appear according to each one’s experience.

    The Tao Te Ching is an example of mostly that vagueness I am trying to illustrate, which could be called subtleness as well.

    The Tao te Ching and the BK Sakar Murli do not convey the same message. A seeker will say that he is concerned with the “truth,” yet he is only concerned with the “truth” that he can understand.

    That cannot be the “truth.”

    Thus, beyond perception and interpretation there is a reality which is there to experience and turn the page, for otherwise; every subsequent similar experience will be compared as the mind kicks in. The idea of what “should be” is a handicap to experience “what is.”

    The beauty of the BK Sakar Murli resides in drawing a secure path to take the follower to an ideal place, where the mind feels it has arrived.

    The beauty of the Tao Te Ching is in describing the plentiful of options which are not necessarily in the range of understanding of the mind.

    Why are we concerned in choosing which scripture is better? Why be concerned in knowing which one is the truth? To “think” like that is to miss the point, completely.

     
  • avyakt7- New Generation 7:26 AM on March 27, 2019 Permalink | Reply
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    Notes on SM Murli March 23 2019 

    The following recent Murli (March 23, 2019) was shared with me. I find this Murli an example of what I was trying to convey in my previous post titled : “The long lost Sakar Murli.”

    • Sweet children, this knowledge is that of total silence. There is no need to say anything in this. Simply continue to remember the Father, the Ocean of Silence.
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      The basis of your progress is love. You need to have true love for the one Father. Even though you live close by, if you do not progress, love is definitely lacking. If there is love, you would remember the Father. By remembering the Father, you will be able to imbibe all His teachings. In order to make progress, write your chart with honesty. Don’t hide anything from the Father. While becoming soul conscious, continue to reform yourself.
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      1. Maintain the internal happiness of staying in remembrance of the Father and give others the Father’s introduction. Tell everyone the praise of the one Father.
      2. Practice becoming soul conscious a great deal. You mustn’t speak too much.’t Let the past be the past and first of all reform yourself. Keep your chart of the pilgrimage of remembrance with honesty.
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      In order to become equal to the Father make your foundation of purity strong. To make a vow of celibacy for the foundation is a common thing. So do not be happy with just that. Underline even more that you must that purity in your vision and attitude.
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      Let there be mercy and good wishes for everyone in your vision and there cannot then be any trace of arrogance or insult.
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    • Comments:
      Observe that the “Essence” and “Q/A” bring a different message than the “Essence for Dharna.”“Knowledge” is not to remain in silence by absence of words. “Knowledge” is to BE silence, empty. There is no way to explain this experience.
      The essence for Dharna however, interprets Silence as “not talking too much.” But yet, it directs to “tell everyone the praise of the Father.”
      Someone who experiences internal silence may not talk too much but to say “You mustn’t speak too much” is completely out of context. The “Essence for Dharna” is not giving the essence of the Murli.Someone who doesn’t speak too much is not proof of BEING silence.

      The “Q/A” mentions clearly that the essence of progress is Love. Nevertheless this “love” is only related with remembrance of the “Father.” It says even though “you live close by.” (??)
      LOVE doesn’t have boundaries. The type of love expressed in the Murli is only about the “Father” and the “Father” for many Bks is not an experience but a mental abstraction, thus “love” can only be mental; therefore, not true love.

      Observe the use of the phrase “reform yourself” in the essence for Dharna. That is a very safe but meaningless phrase. There is no “spiritual” progress through “reformation,” but through understanding. “Know thyself” is not about reformation.

      It is clear the mix of words which should come from the original Sakar Murli with those added to suit the BK organization or a conditioned self-righteous morality; easily understood by the masses who already have a belief in which “spirituality” has stern eyes, and the body must be treated with severity, austerity to progress.

      The “Blessing” (Avyakt Murli) shows an example on how “new instructions” are left aside to emphasize the old sakar Murli with its typical “black or white” instructions.
      The blessing says in reference to BK “purity”, that the practice of celibacy is a “common thing”, however; it says to Underline even more that you must have purity in your vision and attitude.
      The Sakar Murli was very tight concerning celibacy. For the SM, “purity” is not having sex. The BK organization fully supports that. Contrast that view with the version of an Avyakt Murli, to see a huge difference in emphasis and expression.
      Vision and Attitude are definitely spiritual ingredients needed for true purity, more than simply living with a repressed sexuality.

      The slogan of this Murli explains VISION as good feelings and mercy for all.
      When someone says: “Change your vision”, that refers to view things from a different perspective. What is that perspective? Everything IS as it is supposed to BE. It is perfect. Thus, good feelings and mercy or compassion for all, is the adequate disposition when seeing right or wrong, good or bad, justice and injustice, etc. This is “unlimited” vision.

     
  • avyakt7- New Generation 8:52 AM on March 13, 2019 Permalink | Reply
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    The long lost but now found Sakar Murli 

     

    There is a time for everything. The time for the current Sakar Murli to phase out, may be approaching. The “children” may be growing up by being exposed to different information which wasn’t available in the Sakar days.

    I remember when the Sakar Murli was protected. It was only read at the centers and hard copies could not be printed out without the authorization of the “in charge.” As time went by, due to the popularity of the Internet, it was understood by the BK organization, that it could no longer keep it “secret.” Now, it is easy to download it ore receive it via email with little effort.
    The BK organization was forced to change according to time. A “NO” became a “YES.”

    As most BKs may be aware, Sakar Murlis are not the exact words of Brahma Baba as they were uttered more than 50 years ago.
    There have been many “corrections” through time, also known as “updates.”

    Despite the belief that “God” is with the Brahma Kumaris, and He has been giving teachings since 1969 (after the physical death of Brahma Baba) through Avyakt messages, those teachings (Avyakt Murlis) are relegated to only one day a week. The rest of the days are for the “corrected and updated” Sakar Murlis. The “word of God” through an “updated” Brahma Baba who is a being of light, is not enough. The BK organization rather have the “no so perfect” version as a Murli.

    Only the “Blessing” in the Sakar Murli, may be something from the Avyakt teachings. Nevertheless, in my days as BK, if you remembered the “essence for Dharna “ and the “blessing”, if someone asked you “what Baba said today”; you were OK. Like little babies who need small amounts of food to digest, the “essence for Dharna” was written by someone in the BK organization, in easy 2 or 3 points to recite and memorize. “Churning” the Murli is not necessary when someone picked the “main points” of the day (although it is questionable if those points were truly the main points.)

    I understand that for a beginner in “spirituality,” to have “black or white” instructions are important, but I wonder when those “beginners” will change into middle or advanced students?
    Would the Sakar Murlis be appropriate for them then?

    As it is now, the Sakar Murli is the greatest tool to condition BK followers. That is the importance of it. To listen to those black or white instructions every day, is without a doubt, training for the mind to see things from only 2 colors.
    A dear BK friend, used to see Life under 2 labels: Good and Bad. In her mind, there was a clear line dividing those 2 “opposite” labels.
    It is that training the one that will disconnect followers from seeing Life beyond labels or judgment. A “normal” person in society will learn to see “gray” besides black or white as he matures; but to see Life without labels; is definitely a step forward. That is the step needed when we know that “the Drama is predestined and beneficial for all.”

    How could something be “bad” or “good” then? Those are only labels to describe, to make ourselves understood under the limitations of language, to convey a message based on society’ standards, but those are not inherent values in Life. Things in Life are neither good nor bad. They just ARE.
    I cannot judge that a person is “bad” or “impure.” That is to draw a line where there is none, but only in our imagination.

    When we perceive the world as only “good” or “bad” then we will align constantly within those 2 labels. Today I am “good” because I woke up for Amrit Vela. Tomorrow, “bad” because I ate eggs. Temptations are always there for the BK follower, who is repressed from many things. “Tests” are to be passed or failed. Is it more valuable to go to class every day without missing a day or to be empathetic with all? If you have to choose, what will take you to Heaven? The “black or white mind” will make a selection.

    Life is balance, harmony. That could hardly be achieved by following “black or white” instructions.

    Attend your BK classes and BE empathetic with all. Just DOING what the Sakar Murli spells, will not take you to heaven. It may give you a “good” position within the BK organization, but that is the extend of it.

     
    • ex-l 10:07 AM on April 20, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Hi.

      Do you know anything about the internal history and discussion behind the changes in Murli policy?

      By that, I mean who was behind locking them up and why; then how the changes came about … who was for it, who was against it and so on?

      Documenting the changes and liberating the Murlis was, of course, one of the primary campaigns at brahmakumaris.info. As you write, it is true to say that before we came on the scene, the BKs had become paranoid over their control of access to the Murlis and, we must presume, fearful of the damage to their PR if they were to be read by the general public.

      Much of the whitewashing of the Sakar Murlis that has happened … it’s not “revising”, it has been a process of censoring and re-writing in such manners as to lose much of their content and, in places, render it unreadable … has been to that end, but also to create an entirely different impression of Lekhraj Kirpalani and early BKism to more educated, one might even same more spiritually developed, Westerners and middle class Indians.

      This process has been going on since the 1970s when a select few Indian sisters ‘interpreted’ the Murlis while translating them ‘on the hoof’ at morning class in London. That is to say, they were not always literally translations.

      At that time, and earlier, the relationship to the Murlis was entirely different. They were all paper printed and, as they piled up in centres, became a problem. Old ones were handed out liberally for home study. There were even times when they were torn up and used as wrapping paper for toli, and, of course, just thrown out, accounting for the loss of many of the early versions.

      Copies – sets even – do, however, exist outside of the Kirpalani Klan’s control and a very few – literally a handful of “BK souls” have explored, documented and discussed the changes within them. With those edits not just meanings have been changed but also references to the movement’s history have been lost. For example, Kirpalani would reference notable individuals who had left, current events and so on.

      Their re-working – a reduction in length to as much as perhaps 30% of the original – also portrays Kirpalani state of mind in a different. The original spilled over at least 4 pages of fulscap paper and were highly repetitive, stream of consciousness type rambles. One has to wonder what was going on at the time they were spoken. I was, for a short time, part of the Murli translation team and it was by far the most excrutiatingly boring “service” to do, all before digital anything. It all had to be done manually from cassette tape recordings. Play, stop, rewind … written out by hand, then typed up by another.

      I think the attitude towards the Sakar Murlis also says a lot about the relationship o the Kirpalani Klan to their “god” and his utterances. The most prominent being their feeling of superiority and ownership over them to the extent that they could control and modify the teaching.

      It was their principle of monopoly over the business of the religion … their use of control over the access to the Murlis and how they used it to insist adherents had to come to the centre where they could be controlled and exploited … that we wanted to challenge and break.

      Our vision was that all BKs ought to have by right direct access to all the original teachings, and that those carrying out the re-writing of history and philosophy ought to be held accountable. That adherents ought to be able to see the changes and question them.

      Of course, the BKWSU was never going to cooperate with us as, in their vision, we were so “impure” … but I see there is a sort of semi-official ‘backdoor’ project going on, run by one “Dr Luthar” now.

      What I’ve never understood is why a cult who has such high claims for itself to the extent of believing its god spirit or guide is “The One Supreme God” … has such a low value for its words and history.

      Their actions rather demonstrate a shame and an embarassment about them, as if they really know in their heads and hearts that they are not that great and, therefore, not ultimately be supreme.

      I don’t buy the usual excuse they used to use that outsiders’ intellects were “too impure to understand the Murlis”. Outsiders see and understand the old Murlis perfectly clearly … they were not just 90% garbage but peppered by narrow minded bigotry. The good bits in them could have been reduced down to a paragraph or two.

      Outsiders were not “too impure” to understand the Murlis, they were just not brainwashed enough to subject themselves to them. To have their thinking reduced to the level of them.

      Were – and still are – some Indians at such a low level that matching their thinking to Lekhraj Kirpalani’s was raising their level? Perhaps. I think for most of us in the West it was lowering, limiting and dulling down though. We tried to find depth and “experiences” in them … and it just was not there. They were just long, repetitive, trance like mantras and their reading, and the demand that we must subject ourselves to them 6 days a week, was just a ritual of indoctrination and control.

      There is more history to the institution of the Morning Class. The rigidity of it was not part of the original group activity. It’s a shame no one’s truly and objectively documenting the history.

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      • avyakt7- New Generation 10:40 PM on April 21, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        I don’t know much about the policies behind the editions of the Sakar Murli. However, it is safe to say that Brahma Baba’s teachings have been changed.
        What is learned through the process of self-realization is very hard to put in words. Our words are dualistic, we understand through mental concepts and like to oppose and contrast those concepts for better mental understanding. When it comes to “spirituality” ( to label this process of opening up and diluting ego) the previous learned rules do not apply. The belief of BK followers to follow the contents of the Sakar Murli to obtain a similar state than Brahma Baba is naive, but understandable given the conditioning. Every person has a particular story based on particular Life experiences. No two are alike, therefore; there are no formulas.

        If Brahma Baba went into some medium trance during the Sakar Murli ( As I was told, “God” was in him) his repetitive lines are understood by me now. One of my guides/friend (Miguel) repeats his lines twice while going through my sister’s channeling, while the other friend (Mathias) does not. I believe it may be on how often the entity being channeled, had an exposure to human language.

        The value of the Sakar Murli is better suited for a beginner. Someone who can understand “black or white” sentences and who needs “steps” to feel “improvement.” The Sakar Murli is for the masses, the bulk of BK followers. On the other hand, the Avyakt Murli is more refined. It is more general and had deeper “spiritual” topics, specially the ones from the 1970s.

        Many things will get lost in translation. It is unavoidable, as there are no words to fit a “spiritual” experience. I get that all the time when translating some of the words in Spanish and not being able to find an equivalent in English. If the one translating does not have a similar experience, that person will make errors when translating an experience which he does not know about.
        The words “detached observer” when “practiced” by a beginner, may look as emotional distant, with lack of compassion, but “witnessing” is a better word to describe that same state for a beginner, in my view.

        It is my experience that any religious scripture or the Sakar Murli are merely pointers. They may have historical value, but that has little value for spiritual “improvement.” A follower looking to “improve” needs to understand the words in his own experience and needs to be aware when Life presents that chance through a Life experience.

        As it is now, the Sakar Murli is a piecemeal of many things. Thus, only a tool for conditioning; which is necessary if someone wants to “leave” the “world” of our society and embrace the BK conditioning.
        Thanks.

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 7:06 AM on February 20, 2019 Permalink | Reply
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    Going into the depth of Remembrance 

    A reader asked me to give my input (churning) on a recent Murli (2/12/19)
    This Sakar Murli deals with remembrance. I gave a similar input before but perhaps it wasn’t well understood, so here it is again:

    Essence: Sweet children, the Teacher is bodiless and you therefore have to make effort to have remembrance. By remembering Baba, you will finish your examination and then go home.

    Essence for Dharna: 1. Adopt the discus of self-realisation and burn your sins away. Be careful that you don’t perform any sinful acts through your physical organs. Make effort for yourself to become karmateet. 2. Do not desire to have a vision. Neither do you receive liberation by having a vision nor are your sins cut away. There is no benefit in having a vision. The rust can only be removed by remembering the Father and the knowledge.

    It mentions that followers need to make effort to remember the Father for he is incorporeal. Also, it says that visions (seeing a soul in a spirit) don’t have much importance. What is important is remembrance of the incorporeal Baba.

    If someone picked the path of the Brahma Kumaris, then that person picked a version of what a Yogi should be. I say a “version” for every path claiming to be of Yogis, can only have a flavor of it.
    Brahma Kumaris is no exception. For instance a Yogi will practice “pranayama” as a means of maintaining a healthy body. Nevertheless, In Brahma Kumaris physical exercise is not part of their teachings.  In the traditional system of Patanjali, the practice of the “8 limbs” was considered “Raja Yoga.”

    Nevertheless, the word “effort” is without a doubt, part of the Yogi tradition. A Yogi needs to make effort to achieve certain goals. In this case, remembrance of Baba.

    The word “Smriti,” loosely translated as “remembrance” has a different twist of meaning in Brahma Kumaris. It is believed that “God” should be the one remembered.
    The first and obvious obstacle in such BK remembrance is “how to remember an incorporeal entity that most have not had a vision or experience?”
    In my times as a BK, I used to “remember” the point of light as portrayed in the pictures by visualizing it. Sometimes the face of Brahma Baba. Obviously the effect of that type of remembrance is to stop the Yogi from performing “sinful actions.” For instance, if a follower wanted to have sex and he remembered the face of Brahma Baba before acting, then that could work as a tool to suppress the desire to have sex. However, this is not yoga. This is a tool not to perform “sinful actions” as believed by Bks.

    Similarly, visualizing points of light and attributing them the label “Baba,” “Shiva,” etc. is another tool.
    As the Murli points out, “visions” do not have greater importance but remembrance does. Therefore, what is that type of remembrance?

    Isn’t “God” an incorporeal soul? Am “I” an incorporeal soul, right? Aren’t souls in principle the same?
    What would happen if I remember by feeling the quality of “me” instead (soul) rather than a childish visual?
    When I perform actions, I am AWARE that behind the body there is an entity with a predestined role, playing its part. Very soon, the word “I” will have no meaning. Then, “I” will be “equal to the Father” for lack of “I.” This is the meaning of a “detached observer.” Remember that state.  The Avyakt Murlis give an emphasis of a “detached observer,” something that is not found in the Sakar Murlis.

    Therefore, Avyakt7-NG is pretty sure that the type of remembrance taught to many Bks as I followed during my days as Bk, is merely a prop, a tool; for with all honesty, I am only “remembering” a picture which is not the Father, Baba, etc.
    The picture of Jesus Christ is not him. A picture of “me” is not “me.” However, the quality the observation behind “me” will give me the feeling, the sense of “me.” This is “true” remembrance as taught in the Yogi tradition and by many other masters such as Gurdjieff.
    Becoming AWARE of ME is to remember ME alone.
    I found this link with a somewhat detailed explanation of what I am trying to convey: https://www.satrakshita.com/self-remembering.htm

    Again, let us be aware that such tools as spoken in the Sakar Murli are very basic. It is for beginners 101. It is black or white. It has been modified and changed by many hands.

    Observe all sorts of misunderstandings that could arise if I say: “REMEMBER ME ALONE.” (As the Sakar Murli mentions many times.)
    It is not about “Baba.” It is truly about ME.
    Why say: “God says: remember me alone.” when in fact that is a beginner’s prop, a misunderstood tool for “children.” Besides, who added the words “God says” in the Sakar Murli?
    It is only “Remember ME (I) alone” for that to be “true remembrance” …or your money back. Guaranteed.

     
    • Gayathri 10:43 AM on February 24, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      That is a great explanation brother. Congrats. I am yet to read the link you gave. Thanks for taking up this subject. 🙂

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    • Gayathri 8:01 AM on March 3, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Sorry for the delay in continuing my message. I remember one quote from the Avyakt murali – this is not the exact quote though as i read it may years ago and have forgotten the exact words used; but the essence of it is given below.

      Children, when you are at the base of a mountain and wonder how it would be at the top of the mountain, yes, you could only guess as to how it would be there. But as you keep ascending the mountain, and reach the top, you would know and experience the atmosphere there as it really is. In the same way, when you start your journey of soul-consciousness and wonder how it would be like being equal to Baba, when you reach the final stage of soulconsciousness, you would know / experience what it is to be equal to the Father.

      Om shanti.

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    • Gayathri 8:04 AM on March 3, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Yes, remembering ‘me alone’ leads to experiencing Baba, the pure incorporeal stage.

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      • ahnanda 11:44 AM on March 3, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        “To remember to be a soul” is not appropriately explained. The words used are not proper.
        That will be the theme for the next writing.
        Thank you for your input.

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 10:20 AM on December 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Remember ME alone 

    In Brahma Kumaris’ Sakar Murli there is a phrase that although spoken frequently, it is misunderstood. “Remember me alone.”

    Brahma Kumaris offers “shortcuts” to deal with the mind. Brahma Kumaris is ultimately from my experience, a path to try to transcend the mind.

    One of the “methods” used is remembrance also known as “yoga.”
    The mind could bring thoughts which if not observed, could change the mood of a person. We could have so many thoughts that could even make our life hard to live. How do we deal with that? Remembrance is the BK answer. For in that method rather than BEING a DETACHED OBSERVER of those thoughts, we need to change them into something else: Visualize Baba in the subtle region. Visualize ShivBaba in Parandham. Use your mind to create another setting. Use your feelings (love to Baba) to make that experience into a “blissful one.”

    Without a doubt, it is a method to deal with unwanted thinking. But at the same time, there is control of the situation by this “I” who is not willing to OBSERVE and LEARN but it is only concerned to change things momentarily. That is why, to have “yoga” is never ending. A mental process with made up feelings, is a palliative solution.

    We cannot BE a DETACHED OBSERVER and at the same time try to CONTROL things in our inner world.

    What are you going to remember? What is the remember me alone?
    It is an idea, a mental construct of what God is or should be. For others, it is a re-creation of some past experience. Some subtle experience they had. Yet for others, it is about some “future” experience in the Golden age, etc.
    OBSERVE that those types of remembrances are only about the mind (going to the past or the future but never to BE present.)

    That type of method is like watching the same movie over and over again to escape from the menace of the mind.
    In a nutshell, REMEMBRANCE is a trick to deal with the tiring mind. CONTROL is artificially made, by changing the thoughts once we become AWARE, thus; the importance of REMEMBER BABA ALONE ALL THE TIME- for most are UNAWARE of the mind.

    In the AVYAKT Murlis, BapDada used the words ”Detached Observer.” There is no such a thing in the Sakar Murlis.
    To BE a detached observer, the mind should BE as it IS. OBSERVE it. It is not YOU creating that mental “show.” Once we become identified with that thought of being “mine,” there is no longer observation.
    A way to describe that observation, is by saying: REMEMBER “ME” ALONE.
    THAT “ME” IS NOT SHIVA OR BABA, THAT “ME” IS A CENTERING OF WHO I AM. IT IS “ME.”

    When we are centered in BEING there is no ME, but we ARE AWARE. THAT AWARENESS IS DETACHED, thus a DETACHED OBSERVER.

    In a nutshell: “Remember me alone” as understood by the majority of BKs, will not allow us to OBSERVE and Learn about our inner world.
    “Remember me alone” as understood by the majority of BKs, is not consistent with BEING a DETACHED OBSERVER.

    In my experience, to “REMEMBER ME ALONE” could be more closely put in words if we follow Gurdjieff teaching of “Self-remembering;” however; SELF is not truly there. In a sense it is INNER AWARENESS.
    There is a CENTER which is called as “self.” Through that center, there is OBSERVATION. Thus, a detached observer.

    Is the BK teaching of “remembering me alone” of the Sakar Murlis, “wrong”?
    There are not “right” answers, but your state of consciousness will dictate when something rings a bell for you. The BK path of the Sakar Murlis, is a starting point for a seeker. The Avyakt Murlis, is the next step in the BK path.

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh Chawla 10:52 AM on December 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Ahnanda, well I just wanted to share my experience of Vipassana meditation, there are quite long moments where the mind brings and UTTERLY GARBAGE thoughts and visualizations. Total nonsense, if I would not have learned to watch the mind, I would have been at a mental hospital, thanks to “ME” the watcher of mind 🙂 But why sometimes that thinking which we observe overpowers “ME” and I end up doing something I didn’t want to and realize it later and after that you know the story of regrets and self guilt 😦 Can u please throw some light on this bro, PLEASE.

      Another thing that comes from my BK experience is that they tell u to be detached observer of the drama happening outside more, watch the role of others, don’t judge or involve the role of others, and not more about watch the GARBAGE running inside 🙂

      But sometimes watching the mind is the most difficult thing man 🙂 and by the way I have heard Gurdjieff’s name a lot from Osho 🙂

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 10:12 AM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Consciousness is not the “intellect.” 

    In Brahma Kumaris most “Sakar Murlis” speak highly about the “intellect.” (A good intellect, the power of the intellect) as a matter of fact, the intellect is one of the 3 aspects of a soul, according to BK knowledge.

    The word “buddhi” is used and its translation is “intellect.”
    Someone with a western mentality, conditioned to believe in the powers of reason and logic, will immediately believe that reason and logic equates “intellect.”

    Avyakt7 was praised many times as having a “good intellect” by BK members back in my days as BK. What was the origin of that? Because avyakt7 could “churn” the Murli.

    Although to “churn” the Murli is highly intellectual, it has no connection with a “higher” consciousness.

    This is an example of a translation that leaves a lot to be desired.

    The word is consciousness.

    Consciousness is part of the role of soul. That consciousness will develop through Life experiences. It can go “up” or “down” (just to give it labels so the explanation could be understood) from previous consciousness; but all is according to the range of experiences that need to be experienced.
    “Entropy” is another word that loosely is translated as going from “order into chaos.” That translation is typical of a conditioned mind through the teachings of our society.

    Upon further observation in Nature, we could perceive that chaos and order go together. Order will bring chaos little by little and Chaos at its utmost state will move into Order.

    Brahma Kumaris knowledge is static in nature and uses referential points. For example, it divides the world cycle into 4 states: “Satopradhan, Sato, Rajo and Tamopradhan” to conveniently fit the 4 ages in the Kalpa.

    This mental separation automatically brings adherence of the follower to a particular state (Sato) and rejection to another (Tamo.)
    In fact, if the follower was to realize that there cannot be “Sato” without “Tamo,” then his attitude and vision could change. This is to be “unlimited” as BapDada points out.

    How is it that BapDada in the avyakt Murlis, has added new light through new terminology that is not typically considered by a BK?
    That is something for every BK to “churn” about.

    Sakar Murlis have their place, but to go beyond the knowledge of “black or white,” means to go into the avyakt Murlis.

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh 2:40 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Yeah bro…the intellect according to BKs is the decision making faculty of the soul…but isn’t all those decisios based on the the info n knowledge we feed inside mind? And intellect uses that stored info to come up with the decision! This is what I was taught in the first lesson 😊

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 12:06 PM on July 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , Braham Baba, , , , , , land of peace, peace, sakar murli, Sakar murli understanding,   

    Question: Significance of the Drama, Peace and Happiness – Sakar Murli. 

    Can you elaborate on this?

    “By understanding the significance of which aspect do you children not ask for peace or happiness?
    Answer:
    You understand the significance of the drama. You understand that the play is now about to end. You will first return to the land of peace and then go to the land of happiness. This is why you do not ask for peace or happiness. You stabilise yourselves in your original religion of peace. People do not even know about the religion of the self nor do they understand the significance of the drama. This is why they say, “Give peace to my mind!” In fact, it is the soul that needs peace, not the mind.”

    Thank you for your question.
    To understand Brahma Kumaris’ purpose is to understand first, our own minds.
    Brahma Kumaris is about intellectual understanding. Nevertheless, that intellectual understanding is unable to make a change in consciousness.
    Yes, we can understand the significance of the Drama. It is eternally repetitive. Thus, for the mind the incentive is in the “future.” “Over there “I” will be happy and peaceful. Right now, “I” have to make effort.” 

    The gist of any Sakar Murli is to make us “understand” that “right now”  does not matter, for the reward is coming up in the “future,” in my “next life.”
    That is the “reality” of the mind which likes to fantasize with the future and the past, but it is hardly the reality of BEING.

    Observe the language: “religion of the self.” There is no such a thing. Many things get lost in translation of the original Sakar Murlis. It all depends on the choice of words of the one(s) translating and more important, his practical experience.
    Thus, I can say without hesitation that the original teachings of Brahma Baba have been changed to portray followers understanding instead. This is the reason why we may need to go into our own experience and our own feeling rather than blindly following paragraphs of beliefs.

    Peace is not of the soul nor the mind. Peace is a state of BEING.
    That is related with consciousness not with the container of roles, the soul.
    The “land of peace” is truly the “land of emptiness.” The soul is empty of content, thus; that state could be labeled as peace. But it is not practical peace, it is not to BE peace in the world.

    Our minds are full of things. There cannot be peace there, for the mind overrides the emptiness of BEING. That is why in Brahma Kumaris it is emphasized to keep the mind busy with “remembrance.” It is thought that “I” can control the mind if “I” give a recurrent thought to it and make it stronger, if “I” add a feeling. 

    The state of “no-mind” is not known; however, that is the practical experience to be in the “present,” the “now.”

    Therefore, to know about the significance of the Drama will do very little for our consciousness. If there is something “bad” happening in our lives, we will be shaken no matter how much we understand the Drama.
    True understanding is not of the mind, it is about consciousness.
    Interestingly, I do not recall if ever that word (consciousness) has been used in a Sakar Murli. Probably the word “soul” is used instead; thus the confusion for the follower.
    What confusion?

    “I am a peaceful soul, but I am not that now. I need that peace, it will come in the “future.” Or, I need to take away the “rust” to be peaceful.” But Peace is not an intellectual idea that I can imbibe by repeating “I am a peaceful soul” or by knowing the significance of the Drama.
    Have we experienced that?

    For the common good.

     
  • avyakt7- New Generation 10:48 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: answer, , , faith, , , , , omshanti, question, sakar murli,   

    The foundation of knowledge is faith 

    Murli 23-06-17

    Sweet children, the foundation of knowledge is faith. Make effort with your intellect having faith and you will reach the destination.
    Question:
    What one aspect should you understand deeply and have faith in?
    Answer:
    The karmic accounts of all souls are about to be settled and everyone will return to the sweet home like a swarm of mosquitoes. After that, only a few souls will go to the new world. This aspect should be understood deeply and you must have faith in it.
    Question:
    Which children is the Father pleased to see?
    Answer:
    The children who completely sacrifice themselves to the Father, those who are not shaken by Maya, that is, who are as unshakeable and immovable as Angad. The Father is pleased to see such children.
    Song:
    Have patience, o mind! Your days of happiness are about to come.

    A friend, sent me this Murli for my comments.  Here they are.

    In the Sakar Murli of 6/23/17, we could observe that knowledge according to Brahma Kumaris, has a foundation before it. That foundation is faith.

    Faith is a sentimental belief beyond rational, intellectual grasp.
    Knowledge is the theory, it is the belief of “truth.” It is something that could be explained to others, rationalized. In the case of Brahma Kumaris, it is the explanation on how everything works in Life, our “purpose” and what God is.

    For most followers, there is no experience of “knowledge.”
    It is a tale for grown-ups. What is the use of knowing that God is a soul, or that “I” am a soul if there is no experience of that?
    What is the use of the knowledge of predestination if there is no experience of that?

    Those are the theoretical aspects to believe in. Blindly.
    If those aspects of knowledge where experienced, there wouldn’t be a need to have faith.

    This is the first point to observe about this Murli.

    Again, in the second question there is the aspect of “understanding” intellectually what “karma” is and to have faith in that.
    There is the “theory of karma” and we should act according to our understanding of it.
    I act in a certain way and there are consequences of those actions. Karma is action.
    Let us say that I am riding my bike and a lizard appears from nowhere. I still have time to use my brakes, but I decide to go on thinking the lizard will “see” the bike. It doesn’t happen. The lizard gets run over. That is the action. What are the consequences?
    Karma is not as simple as that. INTENTION is a big player in every karmic consequence. However, that is not explained in Brahma Kumaris knowledge. A “black or white” knowledge is easy to follow, easy to understand; however, it is far from what it “is.”
    Brahma Kumaris is the path of the mind. To conquer the mind means to follow some activities, so even if internally thoughts are infused with negativity, even if the root is negativity, “I” will re-shape them into some learned “positivity” and reinforce that with some actions, karma, doings.

    We have not changed the source. No matter what we DO. Consider that.

    The second question in the Murli, is about “sacrifice” for the “Father.”
    How do you sacrifice? What is the need to sacrifice?
    Those are the main questions to answer. In my experience, any form of DOING for others, may have good reviews from others, it may be morally accepted and praised, but we are merely conforming to our conditioning.

    To follow a religious path is to “sacrifice” yourself. But, don’t believe that something “good” will emerge out of that. No matter how “unshakable” (stubborn) we become.
    Love has been the way, but when we do not know love, sacrifice has been invented.

    The “song” in the Murli gives importance to the mind. There is no happiness for the mind. The whole thing about the mind is to be active, to search for things, to be in movement wanting, desiring, acquiring, looking for something else.
    Happiness is in no mind, but this is not something to DO. It happens.

    For the common good.

     
    • Gayathri 9:04 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Om shanti.

      Thanks brother for explaining. The ‘no mind’ stage comes when we learn / realise to accept the drama as it is. Then there will be no goals to achieve, no need to criticise others.

      Having total trust in the drama that everything that is happening and the things that we are going to do are going to be the accurate ones makes our life’s journey entertaining. We can not become a ‘saint’ in one day even though we know all the rules and principles that one has to follow’ to become’ one. The day we become real ‘saints’ our behaviour would automatically be ‘saintly’. 🙂

      We do not need to ‘reach’ somewhere, we just have to keep going and enjoying life.

      (Today Gayathri ben has been speaking like an experienced spiritual person! Actually she has not reached that stage, she is just imagining the future path. 🙂 )

      best wishes,
      Gayathri.

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 5:34 AM on May 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Is the knowledge of Brahma Kumaris the “truth”? 

    Probably many BK followers looking at this website may not resist in reading this article. The title is very eye catching.
    Followers want to make sure if what they are into is the “truth.” Nothing else matters.
    Followers want to make sure and jump in the bandwagon of “truth.”

    Avyakt7 believed through his experience and his understanding a few years ago, that what Brahma Kumaris teaches is the “truth.”
    While at that stage of consciousness, everything made sense and what didn’t make sense could be rationalized into something that did make sense. That was perfect! Having the “truth” is an ego booster and a source of tranquility knowing that “I am safe” in the afterlife.

    Now, Avyakt7- NG ( Ahnanda) has a different view.
    Ahnanda is not interested in “truth” for he understands that what we see, perceive and comprehend is part of the “role” thus “REALITY” depends on what we are “equipped with” for perception.

    “The body is perishable whereas the soul is imperishable. A total part is recorded in this tiny soul. It is such a wonder! Even scientists do not understand this. An immortal, imperishable part is recorded in this tiny soul. The soul is imperishable and his part is also imperishable.” SM 5/22/17

    For instance, now I can see that the body is NOT perishable although it perishes. Doesn’t make sense? That is because the cycle of time is not understood. The soul is imperishable, its part is imperishable and therefore, the body is imperishable for it is part of the role.

    I just corrected a Murli point. Look at that! Everything that exists is imperishable.

    Observe that our level of perception and understanding is different. Who is right? Who is wrong? Who has the “truth”?
    None of that is important. “Having the truth” is not important at all in Life.

    The “truth” may be important as some theory that needs to be validated by followers living in the mind, to make sense of an ever-changing world, but that is artificial.

    BEING does not change through understanding of some dogma labeled as “truth.”
    What truly matters is the AWARENESS of how everything is perishable: Ideas, truths, beliefs, perceptions… there is nothing that could last…

    Wait a minute! You just said that everything is imperishable and now you are saying that it is perishable! You are contradicting yourself!

    Yes. Do you see the “truth” in that? Does it matter?
    It is just a matter of perception. Do we see the “truth” in that?
    If the truth is a perception and perceptions change according to the location of our consciousness, then what is truly true?
    Food for thought.

    Brahma Kumaris knowledge is true for certain consciousness and false for others. Brahma kumaris knowledge is neither “true” or “false” for fewer consciousness… and that could be closer to the “truth,” although if only few can understand the above, then the “truth” could be far away… for most but not few.

    But…if “Few” can understand and “Most” cannot, it is obvious that “the truth” will be something that “Most” can understand… Even though the “truth” is in the “Few.”

    That is why a “best seller” or a “spiritual book” or “scripture” given for the understanding of “Most” is far away from the “truth” …  😉
    Food for thought.

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh Chawla 1:19 AM on May 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Ahnanda, reading and understanding your articles is always interesting but requires some time to grasp. 🙂
      I was an “Adhar Kumar” with BKs for 6 years, and I too had this kind of question that whether what I am following and practising is the ULTIMATE truth or may be there is something beyond this too. And that was mainly because of the reason that most of the practices seemed to me as if I am creating all that inside my mind, the talk with Shiva Baba, trying to focus on Shiv Baba for longer and all that.

      I find your articles quite paradoxical sometimes and yet quite closer to truth, I am simply trying to share what I feel about Ahnanda’s writing. At the same time, your articles have also helped me to come to a conclusion that yes there are many other things beyond BK system as well. Thanks for writing this Bro… 🙂 Om shanti 🙂

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 7:00 AM on May 11, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , eternally repeating cycle, , sakar murli, , spinning the discuss   

    Spinning the discuss of self-realization 

    “The more you spin the discus of self-realization and inspire others to do that, the higher the status you will claim.” (5/5/17)

    What is the meaning of “Spinning the discuss of self-realization”?

    Do you think is just about DOING a mental drill such as: “I am a BK, then an angel and then a deity?”

    Do you believe that by repeating this drill 108 times every day, you will “improve” or self-realize?

    Are you compelled to follow these directions because “you” will get a “high status”?

    To DO as above only reveals an infantile consciousness. Nothing wrong with that. It is a beginning, but please don’t push the envelope by believing that this is the “truth” and “you” have it, or the “only method.”

    Please consider this. “You” know that in the cycle of time “you” have had many roles, many “I’s “going through the eternally repeating cycle.
    Who are “YOU”?  Do you see that?  You may say a “soul” but the container is not “YOU” the consciousness.

    You are/ may be a BK “now.” That is a fact. An angel, a deity… those are beliefs. However, you know that you will be a BK again and for that to happen many other roles, good and bad; right or wrong, had to be performed before reaching the role of a BK.

    Did you make any choices in the past roles to get to the BK role? Did you plan anything or it just happened to “YOU”?

    Do you see that “YOU” only ARE something when “YOU” identify with a transient role? Do you see that all roles are transient?
    Who are “YOU”?

    Nothing specific, but every role, everything…. Don’t forget, there is no “I” choosing a role.

    When you ARE nothing but everything, would you be interested in gaining a high status? When you ARE nothing but everything, would you be interested in spinning the discus?

    “You” are self-realized. Others mingling with you would be inspired for there is no identification with anything and openness to Life  as that is “you.” A “high status” may be waiting… but not for “YOU.

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh 2:40 PM on May 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I remember starting this pratice …initially u start this for 2 to 3 minutes…then a Bhrama Kumari doing same for many years guides u doing swadarshan chakra for 15 minutes…but i wonder about one thing…what if i never came in golden age n silver age.. still i m spending 7.5 minutes in some kind of hallucination to make myself feel like a deity…but when i eat hakka sheshwan noodles…i feel more than a deity and that too for more than 7.5 minutes with reality…i know it’s kinda funny but just trying to differentiate hallucination n reality… 🙂

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    • Mark 2:23 AM on May 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Have you any advice for people who cannot go to a centre and must practice alone?
      I have been practicing for just over a month but live in China, where I know of no centres or gatherings of BK brothers and sisters. I am reading the daily murli and getting so much drishti from it I’m making notes from each murli. Is this right? It’s a lonely business and I’m not experienced enough to open a centre or gathering. Any advice would be appreciated on being a lone BK in China.

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      • ahnanda 12:08 PM on May 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Thank you for your question, Mark. It will be answered in an article next Tuesday. In the meantime, if you have the desire, could you share how did you become a BK? Your English is pretty good. Are you in China temporarily? Thanks.

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        • Mark 7:40 PM on May 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          Hi Ahnanda, I was lucky enough to go to the Sheffield BK centre in the UK before I came to China to teach and I am in Beijing. We are able to get BK sites through a VPN where I work. It’s lovely to make contact.

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      • tw 1:46 PM on November 14, 2021 Permalink | Reply

        Om Shanti!
        I am in China too。

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