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  • avyakt7- New Generation 6:55 AM on August 29, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Appreciation of Brahma Kumaris beliefs 

    “… But actually, one thing is there, if I had not been attached to this belief given by BKs that “I create my own thoughts and can control them, and need to create only GOOD thoughts, I wouldn’t have reached to this experience. [The realization and awareness that thoughts merely appear.] As you have also said in many articles, both sides of the coin are required.”

    That is a great realization, indeed!
    That realization will bring appreciation of the Brahma Kumaris path, even though you are no longer following it.
    You realize that without your previous belief, you would have not been able to realize the nature of thoughts.

    Also, you can now realize that BK Shivani wasn’t “wrong.” Her role is needed for BKs so BK Shivani is “right” for them. Thus, at another time; those BK followers will be ready to realize other things, just like you did.
    If we tell those followers now: “Thoughts just appear, you do not create them,” they will laugh at us. Their consciousness is not ready for that.

    Another teaching from that realization of yours, is that it doesn’t matter who is “right” or “wrong.”
    At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter whether thoughts appear or we create them. What matters is that we can perceive them and thus, how much we identify with them is the important aspect.

    If we don’t identify with thoughts, there is a space created between “I” and thoughts, it is that empty space the one that we may want to explore as well.

    With all of these realizations plus an added appreciation for the BK path and its teachings, you are ready to move on from the BK experience without hard feelings in your heart.
    You have liberated yourself, when others cannot; for you have seen the 2 sides of the coin.

    Every coin has 2 sides. Both sides are different. Because they are different, people living in the mind are stuck in wanting to know which side is “right” and which one is “wrong.”

    That search is futile. They can only see one side of the coin, but they cannot see the coin itself…
    Until, they are willing to take a look at the other side without prejudice.   🙂

    When we started our “careers” in “spirituality,” we did not know anything. We didn’t know about the coin. When I say “knowing,” I do not mean intellectual stuff, information. I mean experience.
    We cannot experience the coin itself for we are not ready to understand 2 different but complementary sides of it.

    We are stuck on “good and bad,” “right or wrong,” stuff that we learned when we were little toddlers. (conditioning.)
    As we grow up, our understanding and experience will be different, unless we are stuck on living Life with a dogma, then we are not living Life… but a dogma.

    The reality of a dogma is a static mind in a dynamic an ever changing Life.

    For the common good.

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    • Dinesh C 2:45 PM on August 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      yeah thanks brother 🙂
      But thanks to you too, if you would not have capitalized the word AWARENESS in most of your articles, I wouldn’t have caught it. 🙂
      It is actually not that difficult just to BE there 🙂

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 6:20 AM on August 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Lots of thoughts are not “mine.” 

    In Life there are many beings intermingling with the physical world. Most individuals are unaware of them. Their influence is made through thoughts.
    The collective consciousness has a dial, that is caught by many people. That thought becomes theirs. An individual influenced by this, will call that thought “mine.”

    Have you watched the movie “Wonder Woman” (2017)?
    In that movie, there is the villain “Ares,” the “god of war” who influences scientists so they can develop weapons for mass destruction. Scientists cannot see him. They cannot touch him but yet they could tune into his thoughts… and then call those “my thought.” This scenario may not be far from “reality.”
    “Ares” does not care to get recognition. That is a human conditioning.

    Religions such as Brahma Kumaris and others, are aware of this. There are many subtle beings. What is the response to “protect” the follower from this “reality”?
    To create a “code of conduct.” A mental frame work to DO no matter what our minds may say, no matter what “doubts” will show up. All “I” need to DO is to follow a paragraph of DO’s and Don’ts.

    Paradoxically, is that “safety net” the one that will not allow the individual to evolve and rather inflict an internal war all the time: “I want to DO this, but I know it is wrong; for my code of conduct does not allow it.”

    Individuals unaware of the mind, will not learn from this experience: they are unable to recognize and make a distinction between “my” thoughts and someone else’s.
    There is no straight forward “division” for “my thoughts” can only reflect the same old conditioning that has been inflicted from many years and many lives…

    Are we stuck then?
    No. In Brahma Kumaris there is the knowledge of the “role.”
    This “role” expresses through a gut feeling. The mind is not involved, for again, the mind is pure conditioning. This does not mean that the mind is “bad” or a villain.  The mind has an important role so we could fit into this society.

    As we learn to tune into the gut feeling, the heart, we will DO according to our role in Life, so there will not be dissonance, a sense that something is missing.
    For instance, we may follow a “code of conduct,” and think that “I am DOING the right thing.” However, our inner being will be dissatisfied, unhappy. That is how the mind forces our BEING to behave in a certain way which is deemed to be “right.”

    The beauty of all is that whether we are slaves of our minds or not, we will DO as our role dictates. Nevertheless, once we are free from the mind, there is no dissonance, no feeling of frustration, etc. Again, I wouldn’t share this with someone who has suicidal or criminal tendencies… They may need commandments, codes of conduct, etc. at that point in their experience to preserve their lives and others.

    We could see that there is no magic formula/method to solve the thinking “problem.” Every method has timing. That is all. Once we ARE beyond the method, allow for Life to show us the exit door. If we entered through a door, we may need to exit through it. That is the journey, but our minds like to label that same door as “good” and “bad.” That may be insanity through the power of labels.

    For the common good.

     
    • Anil Kumar 11:41 AM on August 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks avyakt7-NG.

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    • Gayathri 6:39 AM on August 31, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Om shanti. My last message to this blog could not go through. Now i forgot what i wrote in that message; my consciousness has changed already! 🙂 🙂

      Yes brother, you have explained about thoughts very well.

      Regarding the other ‘beings’ present around us – Baba used to mention that there are departed souls who affect/ influence the people.

      He says, “At the end, you will have to face/ withstand 4 strong forces simultaneously – your own old sanskars that rebel against you, the tamopradhan sanskars of others, the impact of departed souls who had left their bodies all of a sudden in calamities, and the 5 elements which would rage a final great war against you.

      regards,
      Gayathri ben.

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 7:39 AM on August 22, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Are all thoughts mine? 

    … I read your recent article “the world of mind may not be real”. You have specified that we need to see whether our thoughts are ours or they just appear.
    With BKs, I was a bug fan of “Sister Shivani”, in her almost every lecture she focus only on one thing that “All of the thoughts are “MINE”, we create them at our own will”. But now after long time, with some practice of watching my own mind without judgement, I realize that “Thoughts are actually not our creation”. They just appear. There is also an emotionless and feeling-less moments, temporary though, for may be few seconds. But it’s really an amazing experience of just being there.

    Thank you for your comments.
     Ahnanda has shared the same topic many times through different words in the blog “Exploring the Depth of Living;” however, there are very few that could perceive what Ahnanda is sharing. 

    All it takes to find out, is just to observe your own mind. However, most are unable to DO it. The idea of “ I am not creating my thoughts” seems crazy; but when you ask the same people who complain about having many “waste” thoughts, to stop their own “creation,” they cannot. All they can do is add “nice thoughts” in top of what has already appeared. 

    Because their minds are running their lives, what is important is to find out intellectual answers rather than observing and acknowledging “what is.”
    “So, you are saying that I am not creating my thoughts, then who is?”
    That is the question to “get me,” right?

    But then if I ask, who is that “I”? We could get into a big useless debate and forget about “creating thoughts.” The “right answer” has to make sense to the mind, although; we don’t realize that we are still trapped in the mind. Because we cannot get out of it and perceive the huge “reality” outside of it.

    Thoughts are like “vibrations,” they are in the air. We catch them, we let them through us, we identify with them, we call them “mine.”

    What you experienced in those few seconds is what Ahnanda calls “meditation” and “no-mind.” I don’t need to define that for you, for you know it.

    In Brahma Kumaris there is “knowledge” of the “role.” They say, we have “up to 84 roles in the kalpa.” Moreover, “gyan” says that those “roles” are predestined.
    Aren’t thoughts part of the role? Aren’t souls different than roles?
    Doesn’t BK knowledge teach that “I am a soul not a body.”?
    Therefore, how can I say “my thoughts are my creation” when the “I” in BK parlance, is the soul (“I,” the soul) and the soul is not a role?

    Do you see how intellectual we can get through BK knowledge? The mind will spin around the “why and the how,” but yet none of that will give you the direct experience that you were able to find out by just observing your mind.
    All you had to DO is to abandon your conditioning of “I create my thoughts.” That is all. How could we OBSERVE if we want for our observation to fit our ideas and beliefs?
    That is why to become AWARE of the need to decondition from what the mind knows as “true,” is of utmost importance.

    Thanks to your observation, Ahnanda has been able to share one of the most significant articles in this blog. If someone truly understands this, that individual is set for his own discoveries about himself.

    Is there any other significant thing in Life than to know yourself?

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh Chawla 8:46 AM on August 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks brother for your reply with clarification 🙂
      But actually, one thing is there, if I had not been attached to this belief given by BKs that “I create my own thoughts and can control them, and need to create only GOOD thoughts, I wouldn’t have reached to this experience. As you have also said in many articles, both sides of the coin are required.

      I every day used to try to create only good thoughts within myself, and the strange thing is, BAD thoughts were being created on its own, later I read on your blog about Awareness, and understood, oh it’s more about being AWARE and not CREATE.
      If someone sits and ask this question to him/herself, which is the next thought being created by me, let me see, you will observe (after some time, depending on the practice) that no thoughts are being created. May be that’s the meaning of peace is already there, the duality of thoughts shake our peace a lot Ahnanda!!

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      • ahnanda 5:27 PM on August 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Peace is there, but it is not. We are , but we are not. Thoughts are because we are , but they aren’t because we aren’t…. The mind likes words, but the experience of awareness is what makes the change. Contrast is needed so we can realize, that is why we need 2 sides of the coin as part of our experience. Congrats for the realization… 🙂

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    • Gayathri 10:01 AM on August 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      What is realisation? 🙂 🙂

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      • ahnanda 6:58 PM on August 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        An intellectual Aha! moment with the potential to be AWARENESS once the intellectual stuff is left aside. 🙂

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 11:36 AM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , deeds, , , karmana, mansa, , , , thoughts, wacha, words   

    Question: How to make thoughts, words and deeds to be the same? 

    “I need your help to explain us two of the very beneficial teachings which I still have not been able to implement 100%, but want to as they are required to keep the flow of my life smoother. So here are those two teachings:
    No 1: Your thoughts, words and actions should be in harmony, what you think, same thinking should be reflected in your words and actions. (Mansa, Wacha and Karmana should be same)
    No 2: Abstain yourself from creation of waste thoughts.
    The only reason I still want to implement these two teachings in me is that I think about one thing, I say another thing and end up doing totally different third thing in actions. Can you PLEASE explain what a person can do (By now I know that you use DO and BE in caps in all of your articles ) to implement these two things by being and by not being a BK.”

    Thank you for your interesting question.

    Yes, I use caps for BE and DO, hoping readers will find that there is a huge difference.
    In your question, you want to “implement” a teaching. That sounds to me like “office world” conditioning. There, you implement plans, implement solutions, etc.
    When we are referring to BEING, it does not work like that.

    When the Brahma Kumaris teachings says: “Your thoughts, words and actions should be in harmony or be the same,” that teaching is not telling the follower to DO something, to implement something to “achieve” that goal, although that is the interpretation. Followers are unaware of the “office word” conditioning and unaware of how DOING something who you are not, only covers who you ARE .

    That teaching is merely describing how a BEING in harmony will express himself. Most want to BE that, but they do not acknowledge who they ARE now first. They just reject that.

    Let me ask the question: Are “your” thoughts really “yours”? If they are, why you cannot stop them at will? Why is it so difficult to “create” loving, good, wholesome thoughts all the time?
    That is the first realization to go into.

    BEING attracts particular thoughts. Thus, what about if you find that those thoughts are not really created, willfully thought by you, but that they just appear?
    Then the realization to OBSERVE those thoughts will be obvious, to use another Brahma Kumaris teaching, to be a “detached observer” of those thoughts.

    If you OBSERVE those thoughts appearing in the sky of your mind, could we say that “you need to abstain from creating waste thoughts”?
    We cannot, for those are not “my” thoughts.
    What is the issue then? We are not AWARE to OBSERVE. We IDENTIFY with everything that is going through the mind as “mine.”

    If there is that detachment from thoughts, what will be the problem then? None. If you FEEL what your ACTION should be and DO it; wouldn’t your words be along those lines?
    But we are afraid of discovering who we ARE. We want to look respectable, we want to DO the “right” thing and not DO according to what truly I AM. Thus, we miss the greatest opportunity to discover who I AM. It is through that discovery how change happens without DOING a thing.

    Would you like to DO something useful in your Life?
    Learn to OBSERVE yourself. Learn to read yourself as you can do with a friend. This is not meant to judge yourself, but to allow that to BE, so if you realize it, see it, not intellectually but consciously, change is inevitable.

    However, most “spiritual” teachings have been distorted through some “easy to follow” interpretation to cater to the masses.

    This is easy to understand: If you don’t like it, change it. If you think bad things, change it to good things… The power is on that “I” but yet, “I” cannot stop thoughts.
    We are not aware on how we change the original bad thought into a good one by faking it. The root is “bad” and we change the branch and leaf of the tree of a thought to make it “good.”
    That is called inner dishonesty.

    How long can we go with that “practice”? Until we become AWARE.

    For the common good.

     
  • avyakt7- New Generation 6:00 AM on May 23, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Believing in “pretty words.” 

    When someone is living Life absorbed by the mind, words are very important specially if their meaning is ambiguous.

    In my past experience with the Brahma Kumaris, I learned about certain “keywords” which no one knew what exactly those meant.
    “The power of yoga” is one of them, “Shrimat” is another, “Dharamraj,” is a mysterious one but well used when “punishment” is the incentive to be “good and obedient.”

    Do you believe that Life is about punishment and reward?
    Are punishment and reward actually “real” in a predestined Drama? How that can be? 
    Food for thought.
    But yet, the idea is that there is “punishment.” Loaded word that only brings fear to comply, which many followers label as “love.”

    The other day I received an email with the following “inspirational quote”:
    To be still is to be conscious without thought.
    Eckhart Tolle.

    Is that your experience?
    If you are a Brahma Kumaris follower; Do you know what is stillness?
    It cannot be what Tolle mentions above, for a Brahma Kumaris follower believes in “remembering Baba” as much as possible.
    Can you remember without thoughts?

    Thus, “stillness” in Brahma Kumaris is another thing. How about single pointed concentration? Most BKs may agree with that, especially if I add the word “Shiva.” Single pointed concentration on Shiva.

    What is my point?
    A pretty word is used. That word is worshiped, but it means different things for different people.

    Let me change the quote from Tolle and say:
    To BE is to be conscious without thought.
    Can we say that to BE is stillness?

    It doesn’t sound right… but once you experience BEING, you may say that the Stillness of Tolle is the same as the BEING-ness of Avyakt7- NG.

    And what about the “Stillness” of Brahma Kumaris?
    Controlling thoughts by adding a leading thought (Shiva), is the first attempt to become AWARE of thoughts. The leading thought is not the “thing” to achieve but a prop. Once we are AWARE of thoughts, we will not try to control them, but we will learn to OBSERVE if we are identified with them. When there is no identification, even though there are thoughts, there is NOBODY HAVING thoughts, then you are experiencing “stillness” despite thoughts… 🙂

    For the common good.

     
    • Gayathri 8:51 AM on May 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Om shanti brother.

      Yes, you have explained well about (the) ‘being’. I feel that there are many levels in understanding and practising BK philosophy. One starts with just trying to focus one’s thoughts only on Baba. And when he reaches the level of seed stage, there will be no thoughts. That is ‘stillness’ and the most powerful stage of yoga. Our sanskars get transformed easily in that stage. Baba says that if one could stay in seed stage for an hour, one can ‘burn away’ many sins ( one’s sanskars change so much during that stage that whatever suffering was needed to bring in that level of transformation would become un necessary and will be removed).

      I liked the way you explained about not identifying oneself with one’s thoughts and to be still even while having thoughts. 🙂

      I also remember Baba’s words: He used to ask (in avyakt muralis) whether we are silent only when we are alone OR, whether we could be speaking to some one (let alone just having thoughts) and still maintain ‘silence’. I used to interpret it as being a detached observer and an instrument and speak from silence, maintain the inner silence and peace even when ‘coming into sound’.

      Thanks for all your churnings.

      regards,
      Gayathri ben.

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      • avyakt7- New Generation 9:54 AM on May 24, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Thank you for your comment, sister.
        Most of what I share are my experiences, not necessarily “my churnings.” Anyone can “churn” and interpret things based on what someone else said, but honesty gets in the way of believing something that we have not experienced.
        You mentioned that the “seed stage is stillness and it is the most powerful stage of yoga.”
        Is that your experience? what do you base on the description of “most powerful stage of yoga”?

        It is my experience that “thoughts” are not mine. They come and go. Thus, for someone else who does not have that experience, I can see how he may believe that he needs to control “his” thoughts. It is my experience that what we call “I” is not something static, it is not something that we can say “this is Me.” But, when there is a “Me” then I can see the need for “salvation,” “effort,” and cut away sins and all negative words that we have been conditioned to believe exist.

        Baba mentions about a “role being recorded in a soul.” Thus, what is that “I think” that we believe in, when the role (which are thoughts) “has been recorded already”?
        Food for “thought.” 🙂

        It is ME but it isn’t….at the same time.

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 11:42 AM on January 5, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    A reader leaves the Brahma Kumaris movement. 

     

    Really nice unveiling…:)

    But just a small thought by me, they did have this belief, “I” can change my sanskar’s at my own will. But Sr BK Shivani has changed that to “I” can change my thoughts at my own will. But again that belief by Sr. Shivani is a contradiction with the articles that you had shared with me about “Welcome to the world of good thoughts and bad thoughts”, and with my personal experience that all sorts of negative, judgemental, and waste thoughts are generated by the mind and not by the SELF.

    Anyways, another thing that I wanted to share is that I have finally left the path of BKs, I just took some time in alone and reflected on my own personal aspects of understanding, did some meditation of becoming totally aware of my own thoughts. And I think I am ready to go ahead with my personal journey.

    This decision of leaving the path of BKs was not because I explored Osho and Ahnanada, but it was just a personal decision. And just wanted to thank you for writing such a thoughtful and truthful articles on avyakt7.com. Also, I just wanted to request you to allow us to provide comments and questions on avyakt7.com as well, as we used to do it before, yes a few may end up criticising or taking wrong meaning of your articles. But what about those who want to explore more on those articles. Or can we just contact you via that “Contact” page?

    I will be visiting the Osho meditation Ashram in Pune for 4 to 5 day in a week or so, to explore more about meditation there. And will definitely share my experience with you.

    Wish you the best in your “decision.” 🙂

    Certainly, feel free to share with us what you find at Osho’s ashram.

    I wanted to clarify certain items in lieu of your comment.
    1.) Avyakt7 New Generation for BKs, is not interested in promoting the BK path nor in obstructing the decision of a seeker. I have no agenda for going “pro” or “against.” Avyakt7 is just sharing a vision from a different consciousness.
    2.) The Brahma Kumaris path was a “good” path for me. Like anything in Life, it had a timing as my consciousness changed. It is my experience that there is no such a thing as “a true” path or the “only shop,” but rather that terminology could be used only in reference to a particular state of consciousness.
    3.) Brahma Kumaris is evolving as well. Yesterday “I could change my sanskaras”, today “I can change my thoughts.” Yesterday, “destruction is just ahead”, today “destruction is transformation.” Those whose mind is stuck in finding a paragraph stating the “truth”, will learn a lot about this belief.
    4.) We could say that “waste thoughts are generated by me.” We could say “waste thoughts are generated by the mind. “ We could say “waste thoughts are generated by Daffy duck.” The origin does not matter, we cannot DO anything to stop them. Paradoxically, when we observe them and become aware of the particular thought without identifying with it (as:  It is my thought, why do I think bad thoughts? I feel bad about it, etc.) at that point, those thoughts go away, because you are in the “NOW,” by being in the “now” the mind is not. 
    5.) Someone in the state of consciousness: “ I create my thoughts,” needs “spirituality” for that state of consciousness. That is what Brahma Kumaris offers.
    If you are AWARE that thoughts come and go without your willingness, then that awareness cannot resonate with the above teaching. That is all.

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh C 3:46 AM on January 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hey Ahnanda,

      Thanks for your wishes, I already had thought about your very first clarification that this page is not for going against BKs or anything like that and I agree with you that the path was also a very good path for me as well as I had transformed myself from a depressed personality to a happy personality to a high extent but NOT COMPLETELY.

      The path of Bhrama Kumaris is a path of self cultivation with some aim and not a path of becoming total awareness with no aim at all.

      But bro you didn’t answer this:

      ” Or can we just contact you via that “Contact” page? for some queries related to your articles on avyakt7.com”

      Regards,
      Dinesh Chawla

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      • ahnanda 9:59 AM on January 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Yes… you can contact me through the “contact” page with questions related with the articles. I will not write an email back responding, I will use the questions into articles.
        Thanks.

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