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  • avyakt7- New Generation 9:32 AM on October 5, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Misunderstood points in gyan: Numberwise 

    I will start a little series labeled as: Misunderstood points in gyan.
    The purpose is to look at the same Murli point from a distinct perspective. This is necessary to have a deeper understanding of Brahma Kumaris gyan. Otherwise, a limited understanding means misinterpretation for Life and the Universe are greater than a particular perspective of a religion or ideology.

    The typical way “numberwise” is interpreted in Brahma Kumaris is as follows: Every “soul” has a particular capacity, when compared with others, that will give a “soul” a particular ordinal number, a “ranking.”

    In Brahma Kumaris, the most celebrated capacity is labeled as “purity.”
    Therefore, Brahma Baba (founder) is considered number “1” in purity. As a consequence, Brahma Baba will be the first emperor of the “Golden age.” (Narayan I- Krishna.)
    That is the belief.

    In Brahma Kumaris, it is known that because Brahma Baba is the “first pure soul,” he will also be the “first impure.”

    Note that the knowledge of polarity and duality is within that simple affirmation.
    However, the “churning” will stop there, as it is convenient to demonstrate to a follower, the importance of “making effort” to become “number 1,” or rather close to that number.

    As it is said in Brahma Kumaris: “Position 1 and 2 are already taken (Brahma Baba and Mama who will be Krishna and Radhe respectively) but the other numbers are available…”

    That affirmation gave place to infantile games: The top 8 souls. Who is number 3, 4,5,6,7,8?
    “Those souls will not get much “punishment” at the end,” it is said. “Punishment” is important for religions targeting beginners, in their seeking journey.
    Those souls will be Narayan 3 to 8 in the Golden Age.
    All of that is only entertainment for the mind, childish games and a little push for the ego to “become one of them.” It is easier to say “become #1” but this is not a matter of DOING things but on BEING it (embodiment) and that depends on where the individual is positioned, in his range of experiences in the cycle of time.

    Of course, 8 was expanded to 16, 108, 1024, etc. the popular “rosary of victorious souls.”

    In Life, numbers are non-existent. Thus, “Numberwise” cannot be. A “ranking” is a human belief which does not apply to Life. It is merely a “teaching tool” to give a mental carrot to a donkey, who is eager to become SOMEONE.

    Observe that the “purity” of Brahma Kumaris “souls” are in direct proportion to their impurity. Following the belief, there cannot be a more impure soul than a Brahma Kumaris follower. 

    We can also discover that by following the BK belief, Brahma Baba started the impure world, followed by BKs.
    Why is the world “impure”? Because of BKs.
    The “tamopradhan world” is the creation of BKs.
    If this article is understood in its extent, it will be obvious to observe that anything that we believe to BE (pure, compassionate, angelic, etc.) it is certain that we have been or will be the opposite as well (impure, violent, evil, etc.) This is how the feeling of guilt started in our society. We want to pick one side of a coin only, knowing that it has 2.

    In other words, there is the contrast in Life. There is duality; but there is no “numberwise.” That is a BK creation, which is necessary to enhance the sense of being “special;” but that is a necessary enhancing ego trip, to dissolve it.

    For the common good.

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    • Gayathri 9:29 PM on October 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Om shanti brother. Trying for the hundredth time (??) to send my comments to this blog. For your information, your blog has become tamopradhan; it is choosy about the comments, it is not a detached observer, does not treat every comment with equanimity. 🙂

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    • Gayathri 9:42 PM on October 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      It seems accusing your blog has worked! 🙂 🙂 In the mean time i have forgotten what i wanted to say. 😦

      Yes, i had those experiences too.. i was unaware of what was happening inside me ( the ‘spiritual’ ego building up) till i met a few people who were a sort of down to earth and who did better than I did while facing certain situations…. a revelation for me.

      Yes, the “I” is quite deceptive.

      Can i share a joke here? 🙂 My brother is a doctor and most of his close friends are doctors from the same hospital and i ‘know’ many of them. One day, while chatting with me, he was describing a friend as an ‘Eye specialist’. Later on, i realised that that particular person was an Engineer by profession.. and i got confused as to why my brother was calling him an ‘Eye specialist’. Then my dear brother explained to me that that Engineer friend has a lot of EGO hence is called an “I”- specialist.

      regards,
      Gayathri ben.

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    • Dinesh C 10:54 AM on October 8, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Ahnanda, nice series taken bro 🙂

      So here am I with a query related to misunderstanding gyan points… your view point on same will really enhance my exploration 🙂
      In the second lesson when they give the introduction of the father (Shiv Baba), they associate Gautam Bhudda and Mahavira as well in that lesson, claiming that they witnessed Shiv baba in their meditation, especially about Gautam Bhudda. Now my exploration of Bhuddism says that either Bhudda never spoke about God or he spoke just once or twice about God. He never claimed to find God or witness God in his meditation. Can you please share your view point on this thing and comment on Gautam Bhudda’s view on God as well. Thanks for sharing your wisdom to enhance our journey 🙂

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 4:47 AM on September 12, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Question about the “new world.” 

     “Some come so late, that is, they come just before the new world is about to begin, that is, they come about two to four hundred years before the new world. What is that worth?”
    I would appreciate if you could please clarify the following words Baba spoke with regards to “two to four hundred years before the new world”
    which new world is Baba referring to ?

    Thank you for your question.
    Whenever there is some “Murli interpretation” for whatever the case may be, there is a need to observe the context and not just what “Baba said” in a literal way.

    Brahma Baba (or his  current team of translators/editors) for what I recall, used to believe that the later someone comes into the kalpa, there is much that this “soul” is missing. That belief used to be the basis for giving BK children an “intoxication.” For it is believed that a BK soul will come at the “beginning” of the kalpa or within 2500 years of the beginning “according to effort.”
    If the kalpa is 5000 years as the BK belief states, then a “soul” coming for the “first time,” 4600 years into the kalpa, will have very few life times on this dimension. Thus, the statement: “what is that worth?” Meaning that a BK soul will have more lives to DO predestined stuff in the kalpa.
    Many BKs will welcome this statement to “prove” how important their BK role is in the kalpa. Obviously, the “new world,” the Murli refers to, is the “Golden age” or beginning of the “new” kalpa.

    There are many points to consider:
    1. Time is one of many dimensions.  If 400 years is a blink of an eye; then 5000 years is a long sneeze, but while in the physical dimension 100 years seems like a long “time” to live.
    2. The belief that DOING things on this physical dimension is better than being “someplace” else. According to BK belief, a “newer” soul will be “sleeping” in the soul world.
    3. If roles are predetermined according to the capacity of the soul, as the BK belief states; then the statement “ what is that worth?” has no meaning. It is all in the Drama and it is perfect as it is, regardless of someone’s view point.
    4. A soul that comes “first” will experience the full extent of the world of duality: Extensive happiness means extensive sorrow, according to BK belief, thus a “newer” soul is spared of that.
    5. BK followers are looking for happiness while experiencing sorrow “now.” (According to BK belief, they are experiencing hell on Earth.) A newer soul does not have that same consciousness and experiences. To look for happiness may be meaningless to them.

    I need to add that Avyakt7-NG is not concerned with any of the above intellectual things (mind trips) that he is using to illustrate his view in lieu of the question asked. Avyakt7-NG does not “churn” the Murli and he is not concerned on proving that BK knowledge is “right” or “wrong.”
    However, I understand through my experience, that many BK followers are discovering their own minds through intellectual “ Murli koans”  and “churning” is part of that discovery; thus the reason that I answer this question.

    For the common good.

     
  • avyakt7- New Generation 5:33 AM on September 7, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    The fear of BEING myself 

    Every religion or belief system understood by the collective consciousness, as having the “truth” is about the chance of BECOMING something.

    In Brahma Kumaris there are all sorts of “good things” that a follower could become: An Angel, a Deity, God’s helper, A serviceable soul, A gyany soul, A yogi soul, A “true” Brahmin (pukka,) etc.

    Christianity has its share of BECOMING as well: An angel, a Seraphim a Cherubim, Archangels, Saints, Church protectors, pope, cardinals, priests, etc.

    Any other organized religion has similar hierarchy to entice a follower into something “worthwhile” to become. Mundane parents will instigate their offspring to become a doctor, a lawyer, the president, etc.
    Do we see the parallel?
    That is the way the conditioned human mind works. There is always a need for an objective. Without objectives, without something to achieve, we wouldn’t know what to DO with our lives.

    The goal is there but the “method” to achieve it, is the thing sold by a religion, a system, a guru, etc. Someone has to come up with the “right method” to follow.

    “Success” is measured once the objective is reached, through our ability to follow a “method.” Our society wants to make every imaginable objective into some sort of easy to achieve, fool proof shortcut. “Spirituality” is no less.

    The promise of becoming something “important” drives the follower’s ego into some “divine” goal. However, the “mundane” goal is not different as far as consciousness is concerned.

    Picture this: I follow some method by some religion and then when I die, followers say that “I became an angel.”
    Who is there to check that? How do I check it?
    It is all a matter of belief or the experience of a few. Nevertheless, whether that story is true or not, it does not matter at all.

    The experience of a different consciousness it is not related with how well we know someone’s story.

    Because I know the story of Brahma Baba or Jesus, because I follow what I believe to be their steps, it does not mean that I will be like them.
    What Jesus, Buddha and Brahma Baba had in common?
    They were human beings whose expression of consciousness were misinterpreted, by the immense majority while they were alive. Once they were dead, their stories became popular. At that point, a follower may become an “authority” about their guru life story. Then, the hierarchy is built among followers with the “intention” (that is the excuse) of “becoming like him.” From that point on, distortion of “teachings” is guarantee.

    That sort of silly, empty pursue  of becoming like someone else, is covering the “real” thing, the core of our existence, that is the realization of who we ARE.

    BEING, observing who we ARE, becoming AWARE of that who we call “I,” is relegated into oblivion.
    Instead, let me collect pictures and photos of my “beloved guru.” Let me pray to him to get me something or other, to intercede for me. Let his memory make miracles for me, so I can become someone “special” in this Life.

    That sort of infantile nonsense is very typical of some grown-ups. All they need is a promise that they can BECOME someone else.

    That is exactly the point where their lack of self-esteem starts.
    That fear of BEING themselves to learn from themselves, is taking them to worship another, for there is no love for self.

    When a human being is in that state of consciousness, he is not ready yet to grow. Their support system relies on someone to tell them what is “right.”  However, that is the beginning of the journey.

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh 1:23 PM on September 10, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      This article simply told me that I m at the beginning of my journey…thanks bro ☺

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 10:15 AM on September 5, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Every religion has its own heaven 

    The way we interpret things is according to our experiences and consciousness. This we may call “truth,” but it is a belief which stands because there is no way to check it.

    The “heaven” of Christianity is different from the one from Brahma Kumaris. Every follower will believe to have the “truth.”

    “Only Brahma Kumaris followers can go to heaven… with the exception of scientists, but these scientists will be there only as subjects.”
    That belief is self-supporting.
    There is no way to check this, but it is considered to be “true” just because “Baba said it.” He said it, because it is written in the “Murli” and the Murli comes from “God.”
    It is a circular belief which starts and ends in the word of God, although; God himself is on the brink of beliefs. Paradoxically, “God” is the experience of very few, which was mass enhanced to be made the belief of the many.

    Same with Christians. The belief that the Bible is a book “inspired by God,” is believed by millions of followers. That belief believed by “majorities” is considered to be “true.”

    In my time as a BK follower, I wasn’t able to observe the above. Why?
    Simply because “I” had “invested” a lot in the BK belief system. “I” couldn’t be “wrong.”
    It was easy to leave the Christian belief as it did not require much from me, other than going to mass once in a while, confess to the priest here and there and contribute economically in favor of the church. All those externalities, gave me the name of “Christian” and I was in good standing with my surrounding society.

    However, with Brahma Kumaris, it was different.
    It was “me” against the belief of the rest. It was “I” who was made different and had knowledge and experience of God himself. It was on “me” to teach the rest, to make “subjects” for “my” kingdom. :-). (As the Murli says.)

    Now, it is easy to observe that tremendous “I-ness” which “I” wasn’t able to see before. An experience which gave me a contrast was necessary to awake my awareness and not intellectual knowledge.

    In society, my “I” grew by going with the  stream, the current, by following what was supposed to be desirable: A well-paying job, with social status and all of that.
    In the BK experience, it was the opposite: My “I” grew by going against the current. “I” was a fish out of the water, desiring to be with the “ocean” of knowledge.

    When the “I” experiences both sides, then “no-I” is the next experience.
    There, there is no need of a belief in heaven. No “holy” books are required. However, the transformation that this entails will change everything we thought to be “I.”
    As Brahma Baba said in the Murlis, it is to “die alive;” however; in the Brahma Kumaris religion, dying alive entails to change the identification of the “I” from the luxuries of society into the activities of the Golden age. But “dying alive” is to die from the “I,” and this cannot happen if there is an identification such as “I am a BK,” for there is “I” in there.

    As we could see, it doesn’t matter whether I was “right” before and now I am not. It doesn’t matter if “I had the truth before,” and now I don’t. What matters in my path, is that I have experienced that change in consciousness.
    Therefore, how can I say that Brahma Kumaris of Christianity are “wrong” paths? That is not possible. Both of them are necessary. Both of them will offer different things to a seeker.

    The “truth” has different colors according to the glasses of consciousness that we wear.

    For the common good.

     
    • Gayathri 1:46 AM on September 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      yes brother.

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    • Dinesh Chawla 7:24 AM on September 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      well, I too was involved in Christianity a lot before BKs, because the tuition teacher of my sister had given us a small prayer book and said that if you pray to “Mother Mary” and ask what you want, you will get that!
      So the only thing I did as a Christian was to ask Mother as many desires as I can, Joyce Meyer, Joel Osteen, they give amazing preachings you know. Very entertaining and motivating.

      But over a period of time, I realized that “Come on! I am asking in prayer and nothing is happening, may be my Karma matters more than the prayer.” 🙂

      Jesus never showed God but he spoke about God, made people feel that there is a God, symbolized Godliness. But he never showed any form or picture. Don’t know why BKs teach that Christ taught God is a light!! 🙂

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      • avyakt7- New Generation 5:08 PM on September 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        All we know about Jesus, is what others have said about him. That is room for plenty of misinterpretation as well as all sorts of stories which can be made into volumes of “history.”

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    • Gita 12:32 PM on September 7, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Om Shanti

      Murli Point ” Some come so late, that is, they come just before the new world is about to begin, that is, they come about two to four hundred years before the new world. What is that worth?

      I would appreciate if you could please clarify the following words Baba spoke with regards to “two to four hundred years before the new world”

      which new world is Baba referring to ?

      my understanding is that the new world is the Golden Age and before that is the Confluence age which is 100 years.

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      • Dinesh 2:56 PM on September 7, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Sister Gita…the time period of cofluence age keeps changing based on the specified time period earlier…when Bhrama baba started yagya…this period was 40 years…Satyug did not come in 40 years so they changed it to 100 years or so…this might change again if satyug does not come in 2037… this is based on my personal research…not saying this to create doubt here …Om shanti

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    • Anil Kumar 11:08 AM on September 9, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Conversation between Ananada and Mathias about “Golden Age”
      https://avyakt7.com/2014/03/18/the-golden-age-and-paradise-are-better-than-itself/

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 12:16 PM on August 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    The Brahma Kumaris Experience 

    If there is a “keyword” to understand in Life, it is the word “experience.”
    Every happening in Life,  is an experience.
    Experiences are personal. Subjective.
    Observe that Brahma Baba had an experience which changed his Life. To extrapolate it and believe that this experience should apply to everyone; is just a belief colored by self-righteousness.
    His previous experiences in Life, led him into a particular experience.  Observe that there is a correlation, a path. Nothing happens at random.  That word “randomness” only shows human ignorance. Humans have different experiences even though, it may be the same occurrence or happening in Life. Again, there is SUBJECTIVITY in every experience.

    Therefore, Brahma Kumaris could be labeled with the range of experiences: For some it was a great experience, for others; it was pretty lame. There are experiences in between and followers who will fit into those slots.

    That is why Avyakt7-NG, is not here to take sides, to say how great or how awful the Brahma Kumaris experience is.

    There is no “truth” valid here. Only experiences.
    If we recognize the value of experiences in Life, we will be open to them; for change, transformation comes through that.

    Someone may have had an experience with subtle Brahma Baba, that EXPERIENCE changed his Life. However, another EXPERIENCE, which could be the opposite or similar may arrive. Do we oppose to it? Do we see that WE are not in “control” of experiences?
    But yet, we “choose.” We make a decision based on our conditioning, what we believe to be the “right” thing or the “truth” based on some belief system.
    That is what will take us away from our inner honesty.

    The “right choice” in Life, is not a choice. It is a gut feeling, it is in our heart, listen to that which is not conditioned; but for that we need to learn to recognize the mind and how it overcomes our own “truth” for some known ideal.

    Experiences in Life are valuable. Labels to judge only support our conditioning.
    Life has its own ways to produce change, transformation. To judge the ways of Life, is to reject it. It is to live separated from it.
    Acknowledge your experiences. Be aware of the teachings in Life. If we want to imitate someone else’s experiences, we will not be true to ourselves.
    That is perhaps the most valuable “truth” that we can “have.”

    For the common good.

     
  • avyakt7- New Generation 9:48 AM on June 8, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Seeing the Drama of Life from “up above.” 

    Because of our conditioning, we look at things from our perspective and we believe that our perspective is the “right” one or the “truth.”

    For example, most believe that Brahmacharya (teachings of Brahma) or celibacy is about using our will power to repress sexual energy or to come up with “yuktis” (methods) to avoid sexuality. That is not so. Brahmacharya is not about avoidance, rejection or repression. If a Brahma Kumaris follower is repressing or rejecting his own sexual energy, that individual is not “practicing” Brahmacharya.
    Now, this is a new way to look at celibacy from mainstream.

    Similarly, we could look at the Drama of Life. Every Brahma Kumaris follower “knows” that it is predestined but there is more to it, that we may need to look at.
    Let me give an example.

    BK Anthony Strano died relatively young of heart problems, while being a Brahma Kumaris follower. Let us say that he picked up a virus during his many service trips to India as a BK follower.
    Let us assume that we knew about his fate 30 years ago. Absolutely sure that this will happen to him. 
    What would you do?
    The only way that information could be meaningful to us, is if we knew Strano, if we were close to him.

    If you were his relative, wouldn’t you do anything in your power to convince Strano not to join the BK organization or to leave it or ask him not to travel to India?
    Wouldn’t you think that Strano is “wasting his life” there as he will not achieve anything tangible for his Life? For most, having 3.5 kids a pet and an “office job” means “not to waste your life,” that is tangible.

    Here we can see the conditioning behind being a relative of Strano. In our mind as relatives, we may think that we are DOING the best for him.
    What about if I come along and tell you: “That is human petty morality. That is attachment.”
    Wouldn’t you be upset? And if things did not go YOUR WAY, wouldn’t you be against the Brahma Kumaris, perhaps blaming them for Strano’s fate?
    It is expected. However, look at all the REACTIONS to something that is PREDESTINED to happen.
    The experiences Strano had in the Brahma Kumaris were necessary in his particular path.  Outsiders will judge based on their conditioning, their perceptions. Strano made his “choice,” although it was his predestined path. Strano will move on into a different experience.

    Beings of light like BRAHMA BABA, look at things from that perspective; the “unlimited perspective.” What is in the Drama is what will happen, regardless of what we believe should happen or what we want to happen though our conditioning.
    That experience in itself (good/bad) is what changes consciousness in individuals, not a belief in the practice of some morality or the conditioning of some society/religion.

    From the above example, we discover attachment to the role of certain people (my friend, my sister, my father,) but even more subtle than that, attachment to our conditioning, our believes in what is “right” or “wrong.” That is how we may feel “rightful” in judging others.

    Every Life is being lived exactly as it should. Thus, when we ACT, do we use our conditioning to enforce our actions as being “right”? Or do we ACT because that is what is inside of us to DO, without thoughts, without the mind entering into the picture to bring a conditioning? In that way, what we ARE will certainly come out, raw, unconditioned.

    When an action is done through the conditioning of society/religion/morality etc. there is truly a “someone,” the conditioned “I” DOING things. 
    Here is the catch: Whether we act based on the conditioning of society or the role of the Drama, what is happening is what is supposed to be.
    What is the difference, then?
    The difference is if there is “I” DOING which will bring consequences besides strengthening ego, as our conditioning is not necessarily in harmony with the need of the time, according to the Drama. When there is no one doing, “No-I,” “we” are agents, “instruments” rather than DOERS. When there is an “I” there must be the consequences of the law of karma, when there is no- “I” doing; Karma is not. (Akarma.) That is a detached observer.

    Through our vision of the Drama from “up above” like a being of light, we could understand our conditioning and enjoy the movie of Life.

    For the common good.

     
    • Gayathri 12:46 PM on June 8, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Yes, it is a predestined drama. 🙂

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 9:00 AM on February 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Question: Evaluating BapDada through human eyes. 

    “The teachings of BKs projects that BapDada is the only being of light. There is also a promotion given to some selected senior BKs as advanced party once they leave their present body. It looks like BapDada hides the fact of existence of other beings of light from children or may be the senior administration of BKs modifies the original murlis to suit to the masses. I think for you, the experiences with mathias (a being of light manifested through a tree) has provided a better understanding of drama. From your experience, is there any other organisation/system in the world which is presently running under the guidance of a being of light?”

    Thank you for your question.
    I wouldn’t be able to share this writing in the other blog (Exploring the Depth of Living) but I can do this here, because most reading this are somehow connected with Brahma Kumaris. A reader from the other blog, seeing this could say: “You are not telling us the truth. You are withholding things. You are not honest. You are not spiritual.”
    Readers from the other blog are not ready for the eternally predestined Drama. Even though, I know the Drama to be “true” I cannot share this openly but in bits and pieces. Similarly, hard core Brahma Kumaris followers are not ready for some of the things I share in “Exploring the Depth of Living,” because their belief system does not agree with what I share.
    Here is what I learned from this: “Truth” does not matter. Consciousness does. 

    Brahma Kumaris is a method and to disclose something that will not make the method effective, will beat the purpose of the method. In that method, BapDada is not a being of light (Brahma Baba) but the combination of “God with Brahma Baba.”
    The Drama/Life “has selected” particular individuals to fit into the Brahma Kumaris’ method. I was one of them.  Method for what?  To increase ego for many. Self-realization for a few.

    The method was good for me at one point in my Life. Without it, I wouldn’t be where I am now. Thus, to blame BapDada or anyone working for the method, is to overlook the benefits of what the method has brought.

    Granted, this method could be used in abusive ways by some people, nevertheless; as we know; whatever happens is what has to happen. We learnt that at Brahma Kumaris. If you fought against it or supported it, is not relevant; what is relevant is to be aware that whatever is going on, is what needs to be. Everyone expresses their role, we label them as “right or wrong.” It is irrelevant. Our petty morality does not define Life.

    “Beings of Light” is a label used for some beings who have specific tasks. What these  tasks could be? In my experience, to preserve the Drama as it is meant to be. If a person has experienced the full range of experiences (through many lives) that Life can offer, then this person is ready to leave the physical realm and perhaps continue on with a subtle role. Beings of light will help that individual through that transition. That is all.
    That person who is going through the transition may appear as “spiritual” or “gifted” to others. That person is transitioning.

    Brahma Baba was an example of that. However, for many BKs this is an opportunity to worship Brahma Baba or to enhance their own egos by a sense of belonging to this ‘holy’ person, rather than learning and being inspired through Brahma Baba’s experiences.

    Many groups or religions claim to have a being of light as a head of their organizations. I cannot say if that is true or not, as the subtle world has many different kind of beings, some helpful to human development, some challenging; for they are concerned only with their own agendas. That is the danger that Brahma Kumaris knows about and thus, it is sparing the “children” from this knowledge in their method. (after all, they are children.)

    Therefore, a being of light has a particular purpose; although we may call them “Gods” “angels” or whatever label. Once their task is accomplished, they go on with their business, they are not looking for recognition or followers, that is human stuff.

    In my experience, a Being of light will only give the necessary tools to someone according to time and according to the needs of the human they are helping transition. That is why many “enlightened” individuals appear to have different “teachings.” The beauty is that the “teachings” that they may share are necessary to the people that they will relate with in their paths. We are all connected. Thus, as we can see; it is not about having the “truth” for everyone will have a different perception,  a different take, but rather, having a changing Life experience which will change consciousness. 

    That is why, when some accuse Brahma Kumaris of “lying,” they do not realize what the method represents. Even though, BKs may say that they have the “truth,” now you may see; that this is just the “method.”

    Want a date for destruction? Observe how it changes. Oh! They are lying!! No… That is the method. There are many individuals who need to go through that particular method, so dates need to change. Brahma Baba will contact some of them.
    These people will feel special, unique, blessed, etc. That is the beginning of their journey. It is good! This is a great chance to solidify ego:  “I know God. I have the truth. You don’t. I am special. A mouth born Brahmin, not a simple lokik Brahmin. Listen to me. I will teach you.”
    Please see that Life is not about complying with human understanding or pathetic human value systems, it is not about the so called “truth.” Again, “truth” is a perception. There are facts based on a particular referential perception. Humans believe that human perception, truth, is the highest standard. It is just a perception.

    Life offers experiences that will change your consciousness. Do not judge the method that Life offers for that. Consciousness is what matters.
    Whatever path you feel to be good for you, follow it wholeheartedly. Now, you know that it does not matter whether you are  in  the “right or wrong” path.  What matters is to go through the experience. We can call it “good experience or bad experience.” It does not matter….Consciousness will keep evolving through the whole range of experiences, that is all. This is why the Drama is benevolent for all, but conditioned humans are mentally stuck with their little “truths.”  Wah Drama! Wah Life!

    For the common good.

     
    • Anil Kumar 10:12 AM on February 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      avyakt7-NG,

      Thanks for the well explained answer.

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    • ex-l 5:24 PM on March 28, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I wonder who are you referring to when you write, “when some accuse Brahma Kumaris of “lying,” they do not realize what the method represents”.

      I often, quite rightly, accuse the Brahma Kumaris of lying because they do. They are phenomenally dishonest and without much sense of ethics.

      But I think you are confusing two issues here, ‘lying’ and ‘making false predictions’. I see the two as quite separate.

      The BKs’ god spirit most certain did make numerous false predictions and many, many false or exaggerated claims (amongst other offences to true spirituality) … but I would not class them as “lies”.

      What I would class as lies are when the BK establishment hides or covers these up and makes their usual mishmashes of plain and simple true, like Kirpalani’s date of birth, their history, etc.

      Let’s agree that there are two basic categories of lies;

      knowingly stating that which is not true, and
      lying by omission

      The BK leaders, and many senior BKs and BK centre-in-charges, are absolutely guilty of doing so – and much more – as they are guilty lying about their beliefs and intentions to VIPs and outsiders.

      One could go on …

      But, can I ask you, is it really enlightened to accept this as acceptable under the guise of it being a “method”.

      I might agree with you if you were to define it as the method of a confidence trick but you still appear to upholding it as a valid spiritual path, rather than a confidence trick.

      It’s easy enough to remove the BK from BKism, but a little hard to remove BKism from the BK.. Many individuals, including myself, go through an apologetic phase before facing the reality …

      We were conned.

      At what level would that put the BKs’ god spirit?

      Thank you.

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    • ex-l 11:16 AM on March 29, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I think it might actually be a valid and useful exploration to discuss what constitutes the nature of “lies”, dishonesty or deception, and their place within spiritual practises.

      I picked up a copy of a BK publication the other day and, for me, it started with a lie or deception, one of the BKs’ usual ones about “Raja Yoga being the most ancient path”.

      I don’t know where you would draw the lines between lies, general dishinesty or deliberately deceptions … or how responsibility for repeating them is passed on by the followers. I am open to discuss this.

      I think Buddhism really outstrips BKism in this area with its 4th precept “I undertake the rule of training which consists in abstention from false speech”, defining false speech as “abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech”.

      Not just with the precept itself but also in its approach to its basic precepts (which contrinue to be applied at a more and more subtle level as the adherent continues on their path).

      BKism, for me, has become “The Art of Lying” …. more and more subtly … to make money and gain social status putting on a pretense of spirituality. Much of the attention and control within the cult, at an individual and corporate level, is focused on just this … the control of “the message”, the control of personal expression and so on.

      In essence, one … adherents … are judged on their willingness to accept and conform to the lie, and to repeat it.

      Is this good method?

      With regards to dates of Destruction, the current corporate lie for that is, “Baba has never given a specific date for Destruction”. This is repeated ad nauseum by adherents as a defence to anyone question and exposing their god spirit’s failings.

      How do we define something like that … a half-truth, a half-lie, or a willful deception, a misleading of other souls away from the truth?

      One of the interesting findings our independent research brought to like, was that there was no God Shiva in the religion until sometime after 1955/1956. The much repeated 1936 “Shivoham, Shivoham” story was a … absoutely lie. The story of the early days and the cause of the reaction against has been extensively falsified. The implications of our understanding of their claims and practised are huge, e.g. no god Shiva to remember during the beggary and retreat period to “purify” themselves.

      Was the covering up of that “method” or deception to defend their egos, plain and simple?

      I think we also need to define what is “method”

      Thank you.

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    • ex-l 4:02 PM on March 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Just to frame discussion, I offer a link, taken quckly at random, on “Right Speech”.

      http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dhamma/sacca/sacca4/samma-vaca/

      For me, what would define “method” would be a conscious awareness of the method. I don’t get a feeling of that from general BKism.

      Rather to the contrary, a culture of mindlessness has been engendered, summarised in Dadi Janki’s old “don’t think, don’t question” line.

      As to the “spiritual status” of BapDada, it’s interesting to see the opinion within BKism being moved towards reintroducing the “Piyu” channelled being of the early Om Mandli, and equating it to the voice and singular identity of ShivBaba/BapDada.

      I wonder if one can really do that, or wether it is just another laywer of deception and manipulation?

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    • vivek 1:29 PM on April 5, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hello..I think you taken the mutual contract..To contradict BK knowledge and to spread malice against them…U actually deceptive against BK knowledge which once uplifted you …Now u have spreading your so called wisdom..Through your blog.. u r the real traitor.. . Avyakt 7… If possible comment on this openly…

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    • vivek 1:36 PM on April 5, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      U r the one who once explaining daily Murali….Proving people how 5000 year cycle possible by collecting tons scientific data.. now u r contradicting the same which u haven proven. U r contradiction in yourself ….

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      • avyakt7- New Generation 4:13 PM on April 5, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Thank you for your comment. Sometimes I wonder if language is a “good” tool for communication. 🙂

        In your perspective, I am spreading malice towards BK. I am spreading my so called “wisdom” and I am the real traitor.
        I once explained daily Murlis, how 5000 years’ cycle was possible… and now, I am contradicting myself. Correct?
        I wonder what makes you think that way?

        I wonder if you have read the reason behind this blog. It is not because I wanted to tell the “truth”. It is not because I have malice against Brahma Kumaris, when in fact I have said that I am thankful. I am writing here because I was asked to share my experiences.

        Nevertheless, I am no longer a BK, just as I am no longer a College student.
        You want to know why?
        My consciousness has changed.

        Where is the malice? Show me.
        I am contradicting what I have proven, you say. What I have proven, I ask you?
        To say that the 5000 years is possible and to show scientific data to back that up, is that “proof”? To explain the Murlis with my experience back then, is that proof?
        My consciousness now has changed, just like a child changes into a teenager. Shall I continue to believe in dolls and Santa Claus just to make others happy? Just so I cannot be called a traitor?
        My experiences have changed. Shall I ignore them and believe in the same?

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    • vivek 12:35 AM on April 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I regret for the strong words..I have used..But Everytime u say u r just sharing your experiences..But deep inside u may not understand ..U r actually trying to disprove someone else..People are living with BK believes…And i think they are happy…Why to tear them apart..I agree u r experiences and your knowledge really terrific …I respect your ingenuity…An u have the authority with u r knowledge to go inside brain….So use is it wisely…I may not be one who can advice you…But understand it is really depressing for someone to raise once their believes are broken… Thanks

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      • ahnanda 10:45 AM on April 7, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Vivek,
        You are free to read the posts here or not. I am not pushing anything on anyone. Reality is, that there are people happy with BKs and those who are unhappy too. That is Life. There are some who believe in your beliefs and some who do not. At the end, we believe what we belief in, that is great…but let us not call that the “truth.”

        All the best Vivek.

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 9:00 AM on February 23, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , brahma baba, , , , , wah drama!   

    Wah Drama! 

    If Brahma Kumaris followers were to replace the word “Drama” with the word “Life,” they may see “Life” under a different perspective.
    This is the power of words.

    There is no law, but Life itself. There is no God but Life itself. Now, if you call that “Drama,” then we could understand why Sakar Murlis speak about the Drama as being even “more powerful than God.”

    Someone may have their little morality running their lives. Their little codes, values and precepts and commandments of Do’s and Don’ts, just because someone’s Life is being run by those external beliefs; it doesn’t mean that I am “righteous,” it just means that someone may feel at ease by conforming with their own values and beliefs. That is all.

    To be called a “saint” an “angel” or a “godly man” and all of those “nice words” that everyone becomes when dead, is meaningless.

    In Life, we can only be who we truly ARE. We are called to express that. However, the layers of conditioning are hiding our true selves.
    Many religions believe in placing another layer of conditioning in top of whatever someone brings with him. That is to hide through a “new” behavior, the traumas made by past conditioning. Those traumas will come out sooner or later and they need to be healed, in order to “Be yourself.”

    In Life, many times the impossible comes true. A belief in what “should be” could deny the expression given by Life.

    Most Human beings are concerned in labeling things as “good” and “bad,” not with the sole purpose of describing something, but with the intention to show rejection or distaste of that which is considered “bad.” Their value system, codes of conduct, morality, etc. do not approve what Life is presenting to them. It “should not be” like that.

    Observe that in the “Unlimited” (As BapDada would say in Avyakt Murlis) everything that happens is as it should be, that is “good.”
    In short, everything that happens in Life is “good.”

    That is a pill hard to swallow. Life is not about my little interests and beliefs; but it is greater; unlimited.

    In my experience, Beings of Light (Like Brahma Baba) deal with human beings appropriately thanks to the knowledge that they have about the Drama, Life. Basically, they know what will happen in Life in the “future.”

    Let us say that a loved one is destined to die because someone will kill her. A Being of Light will not tell me how to avoid her assassination before this happens. A Being of Light will help me to deal emotionally with the issue before it happens and after it happens.

    But why? Isn’t Brahma Baba or another Being of Light there to help me? Isn’t he my friend?

    All of those human concepts and cheap morality that we see in the Disney channel and Hollywood/ Bollywood movies do not apply to the “Unlimited,” to Life itself.

    To understand the Drama/ Life itself; we may need to decondition from all of those things which we consider to be “good, holy, valuable, moral,” etc. Then, flowing with the Drama is to be One with “God;” not because “God” is something different than Life, but because is the same thing. 

    To say “Wah Drama!” will not be just another “BK key word” to utter when something unforeseen happens.
    Wah Drama! will be an authentic expression flowing from the bottom of our heart at every heartbeat…
    Now, that is meaningful. 🙂

    For the common good.

     
    • Anil Kumar 11:32 AM on February 23, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      avyakt7-NG,

      The teachings of BKs projects that BapDada is the only being of light. There is also a promotion given to some selected senior BKs as advanced party once they leave their present body. It looks like BapDada hides the fact of existence of other beings of light from children or may be the senior administration of BKs modifies the original murlis to suit to the masses. I think for you, the experiences with mathias (a being of light manifested through a tree) has provided a better understanding of drama. From your experience, is there any other organisation/system in the world which is presently running under the guidance of a being of light? [If you feel that answering this question is unnecessary at this point then you can avoid answering it.]

      Thanks.

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      • ahnanda 3:15 PM on February 23, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Anil,
        Thank you for your question.
        BapDada for BKs is God himself. Under that label “God”, is the promise of “salvation.” BapDada does not hide anything. BapDada is defined by the BK method as my previous article mentioned. Without this “uniqueness” of Brahma Kumaris having God with them and only them becoming angels, their “method” will not work. I have mentioned from the beginning that Brahma Kumaris is a method to increase ego. If that is uncovered, what is the value of the method?
        The “children” and many others are so caught up with the word “truth” just like the word “God” and cannot see that those words are defining their own experience.
        The full experience of the BK method and not the “truth” is what makes the change in consciousness. I have said that, many times too.. but most readers will not remember that.
        I will write an article next time from your question.
        Best to you! 🙂

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 9:01 AM on February 7, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , brahma baba, , , , , , , subtle, supreme being, sweet child   

    Question: Dialogue with ShivBaba? 

    “It is about talking with Shiv Baba in paramdham, we have done that .. I mean I had done that while I was on that path. We go there by converting ourselves into a point form of soul and visualize baba in front of us and then we both start talking:
    Soul: Good morning Baba
    Supreme Soul: Good morning my sweet child
    Soul: Baba I am not feeling good today
    Supreme soul: Why what happened?
    Soul: Someone said something really hurtful in office, and I am a little angry on that guy.
    Supreme soul: Oh sweetheart, that guy was just playing a role in the drama of your life and in the cosmic drama too. And that too according to his own sanskars. Forgive that soul and move on child.
    Soul: Oh baba, you are so great you freed me from anger I had on that guy by giving this answer. Thank you baba, now I have a lot of work, going down on stage back and will see you soon, love you baba.

    Well that was my personal example in my own way. But my question is “Are all the replies from Baba are from my own mind and not from Baba, because we feel that when we do? That we are talking with our own mind and not with any supreme being.” 

    Thank you for your question.
    In Brahma Kumaris a relationship with God is emphasized.
    It is a relationship what brings love. It is through love, how a BK is able to follow their ascetic Lifestyle.

    Nevertheless, most of the BK followers only know about this God through Murlis or through a BapDada Milan. It is quite impersonal. Very few have actually had a relationship with subtle Brahma.

    Could you fall in love with someone who you only know through writings? Could you fall in love with the picture or video of that someone?

    Apparently, some have been conditioned to believe that this “feeling” is love.

    Therefore, the mind needs to believe that this relationship is in fact going on. That is why, the dialogue that you bring between “you” and “ShivBaba/Brahma Baba” is necessary, otherwise; where is the relationship?

    Your mind is making that up, but at the same time; it is believed that you are “connecting with God” through a “feeling” that you get afterwards: You feel more peaceful, calm, happy…. Because you had a conversation with God. You are truly talking to yourself, but it is nice to believe that God is speaking to you and listening to you.

    Most individuals cannot recognize what is their minds and what is not, so it is safe to have a structured “chit chat” where you know what God will tell you (good things) and you know your role of a complainer (bad things). That is the arrangement. It works!

    Observe that this same procedure is used nowadays through the impersonal use of technology.
    For example, someone may call me “their guru” because she likes the stuff that I write here and she likes my picture.
    In reality, what comes through  these writings is not me. My picture is not me. 
    A relationship is needed for “love” to appear. Something personal, to be around that person to get to know the person… this will certainly unmask the fantasy.

    This “relationship” is all mental as for most; Brahma Baba and ShivBaba are only beliefs, pictures, writings, a collection of stories told by someone else higher up in the hierarchy.

    That is the level of honesty that needs to be accepted before moving on… but the attachment to the idea: “I have found God, I cannot be wrong” is so profound; that it is best to live with the fantasy created by the unobserved mind rather than to acknowledge “what is.”

    Nevertheless, The Brahma Kumaris method of a “relationship with God” is necessary for those who need to feel assured that they are in the “right path.”  The power of “yoga” then, is understood as needed baby formula that is given to a baby in his process of growth. You think God, you feel God… you believe God… but most important;  YOU are “special and safe” for you know God.  A time proven way to develop ego, which is necessary to dilute it.

     

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh Chawla 1:45 AM on February 8, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hmm… thank you so much for your efforts of writing on this, I needed it. Thanks again.

      But love is just unconditional acceptance, if someone accepts Ahnanda the way he/she wants after reading his articles even without seeing his picture or video, is loving Ahnanda and not his artcles/pic/video. But only that person is AWARE about that acceptance for Ahnanda in his/her heart, Ahnanda is not.

      anyways, god bless you…:)

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      • Dinesh Chawla 4:44 AM on February 11, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        I don’t know but I got this feeling after reading your reply for the second time randomly going through some other articles, and that is actually I am trying to connect with some Godliness with myself only by using this method and not any other supreme BEING sitting up above in paramdham.

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 10:25 AM on December 8, 2016 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , brahma baba, , , parandham, , sexuality BK   

    The sin of sex 

    It is the belief in Brahma Kumaris that sexuality is sinful. In the “Golden age,” “babies will be born out of the power of yoga,” it is said. Inquiring more into how the physical connection will happen between 2 human beings, will bring the following answer: “Through a kiss.”

    Nevertheless, souls in “Parandham” need to “come down” at this time through regular sex. A BK is spared from this “sinful activity.” Other less fortunate human beings will automatically fall into “sin.” The Drama needs those “sinful” souls, for other souls to come down through them and do their part in the “world stage.” Therefore, is the Drama helping only BK souls? Why is God allowing for his non-BK children to fall into sin?

    The above is the conundrum of the “universal” God helping only part of “his children.” This problem exists in religions believing in a God. Their God. Not everyone could fit their requirements.

    Sex is a problem for individuals living in the mind. These individuals are always looking for the “right” behavior, the ideal rather than to understand themselves.

    I understand that many BKs reading this may feel uncomfortable, there may be a rejection inside for topics dealing with sexuality.
    Consider this: In Brahma Kumaris, females cover their bodies as well as males, however; they do not cover their feet. In the Western world, women feet are considered one of the most common “fetishes.” (a form of sexual desire or fixation for a human body part.)
    Basically, sexual arousal is there  at the center near you, even though unwillingly. Is it possible to run away from sexuality?

    BK activities considered “good” such as singing and dancing at the core are sexual activities. Observe how singers are idolized and what they represent in society as well as dancers. They have “sex appeal.”
    The division of men and women creates a support of homosexuality which may contradict society’s standards.
    I am not saying that homosexuality is wrong or bad. I am merely stating the issues that could come up when asexuality is supported as an ideal.

    When an ideal is taken as a way of living, there is little consideration of the nature of the individual. Will power can help someone to an extent to fit an ideal. After the limit has been crossed, it becomes rejection, repression and from there guilt and shame.

    A Brahma Baba practicing celibacy after he already had children and in his older age, is not in the same situation as a 30 to 40-year-old man or younger than that.
    How could someone “conquer sex” if that person rejects it?
    That is not possible. Even though  the “ideal” exists in the world of the mind; it is not real.

    Will power is misused in this endeavor. It is not the activity of sex which is “sinful” but the type of consciousness of those engaged in a sexual act. In that, celibacy could be “sinful” as well, for any rejection of what Nature and Life has offered us, will be a negation of Life itself.

    For the common good.

     
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