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  • avyakt7- New Generation 5:44 AM on October 31, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Question on the meaning of Bapsaman 

    Am I love ?…please tell me how to make that or feel it a reality. Do I have to be SOUL CONSCIOUS to Feel that I am love??? Also it is just impossible to become AAP SAMAN unless I have had the same /exact experiences you have had to bring you in your present state .Why does the Murli say you have to make others aap saman also baap saman???How do I go about it?

    There is no recipe for BEING Love. That is not something that a man can tell to another. Otherwise, only 1 book about becoming Love could have been necessary for the whole humanity, and there hasn’t been any yet, despite “best sellers.”
    Why did you add that it could be necessary to be soul conscious to be love?
    That has no meaning.
    If I say, “yes. It is necessary.” Your mind will be satisfied for that is an expected answer, but you will be unfulfilled. You will not know where to start.
    Love is for you to experience, when it comes in your path. This is not something to “achieve” or to “practice.” Just be AWARE when that happens.

    That mentality of trying to “achieve” something spiritual or some virtue, is what needs to go away, for that very same “effort” to achieve is the greatest obstacle in experiencing it.
    WHY?

    You have already an idea of what love should be. You want to achieve your idea of love and not allow for love to manifest to you according to what you ARE now.

    As you pointed out, you cannot be equal to me, unless you had the same experiences.
    Thus, when BapDada tells his children to “make others similar to you,” he hasn’t been specific, so it is up to every child to figure that one out. Perhaps it just means to make a BK out of others. Maybe not.
    The potential for that phrase to be an ego-booster for every BK child is there, as most will believe that they are the “sample and the example,” (paraphrasing another BapDada’s phrase) for others to follow.

    A BK child needs that (Kudos from Kudha) to be able to follow his ascetic Life style.

    Similarly, BapDada gives a “goal” for the child to achieve: Be “equal to me.” (Bapsaman.)
    Even though, he knows that every BK child is “numberwise.”(According to gyan.)
    Some BKs believe that BapDada means to be “equal in his virtues,” but for most BapDada’s virtues are only seen on a video or when they go to Madhuban and see BapDada live.
    It is in a relationship, when you see someone in action, when you could appreciate those “virtues.” However, that is the experience of few BKs.

    That is why the BK system relies on what a Dadi says or a senior, as they may have greater experience with BapDada.
    Of course, this is second hand knowledge. To talk about how loving BapDada is, will not change the way a BK child is. This BK child will try to copy the particular loving “action” that someone else described. Just so this child could be called “loving.”
    Nevertheless, before the action (DOING) there is BEING.

    BapDada is love.
    A BK child may not be love, thus his actions even though the same as BapDada’s, will not make the BK child into Love.

    Consequently, what truly matters is to be AWARE of who we ARE at every moment rather than “making effort” to copy someone else’s actions.

    The Murli besides “giving gyan,” is meant to increase the BK follower self-esteem. It is meant to praise the BK child and to build his self-esteem, by making distinctions and separations; although it will increase the follower’s ego. But that is not bad at all, for ego only decreases once it has reached the utmost increase in size.
    As mentioned before, the BK system does an excellent job in that “increase,” that is why; it is an important journey of some seeker’s path. It was for me.

    For the common good.

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    • Christopher joseph 7:10 AM on October 31, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks for your love. And thanks for the knowledge of ( No I ) No I also makes me think of the beginning of my existence 🤔😊I didn’t have a choice to exist was there something or entity who wanted me the No I to become an I and exist or did I exist by coincidence 🤔 I have seen enough of this beautiful world and If the repeat cycle is true then there is nothing Unlimited. (&nothing new) so my priority is not to exist ever.Lets hope I didn’t exist by coincidence 🤔😊

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    • Christopher joseph 7:35 PM on October 31, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Waiting patiently for next topic as I feel addicted to your inspiration 🤔😊……Love you😊

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    • Gayathri 8:52 AM on November 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Dear divine family,
      Om shanti.

      Let us go a bit deep into the topic – “Who am I” ?

      “A soul.”- is the answer. 🙂

      They say, “Pahale Khud ko jaano, baad mey Khudaa ko jaano.” (Know about yourself first, and only then you may be able to know about God.) And i see the logic in that statement. It is like – we have to first learn to stand on our own feet properly before we could learn/ perform a dance.

      Ok, Shrimat says that every kalpa repeats itself identically and even a minute/ small change can not happen in the drama script. This drama has repeated itself infinite number of times and its script is fixed second by second…. agreed? Any questions? 🙂

      Shrimat says, “The part of 84 births is recorded in the soul.”

      Every soul, every element, has its role/ roles predetermined in this eternal drama, is n’t it?

      Even though we do not know what would happen in the next moment, actually there are no surprises, drama follows the karma theory meticulously and each and every moment in the drama has a firm basis, a concrete reason to unfold the scenes in a particular way.

      According to shrimat – For ex: All my roles for a kalpa have already been fixed, each and every thought that triggers my words and actions are fixed, all my relations and friends of every birth in a kalpa are fixed irrespective of whether i am aware of them or not.

      It is like I the soul am a cassette in which all my roles are recorded and when i am placed in a cassette player (body), my words and actions get expressed. Without a cassette player (body), i am dormant, can not act, and only when i take up a body according to the time in the drama script, do the roles that i have to play ‘get played through me’.

      A cassette player can not take the credit of the songs that are being played through it as once the cassette is removed, the song stops. And the ‘cassette’ can not take the credit for the song that is being played from it as it was an ’empty cassette’ before the song was recorded on it. And only when it is placed in a cassette player and when it is switched on, will the songs be heard from the cassette. And the cassette can not change the songs/ speeches that are recorded in it on its own.

      In the same way, the soul will not be able to change its role or its sanskars which are pre – recorded; the sanskars keep changing only according to the drama script and is not based on the person ‘making effort’ or not making effort as there are factors from the past which also add to the happenings of the present moment. And even those past actions were the result of the predestined drama. That is the reason why we see some very intense effort makers, despite decades of practising Raja yoga, failing miserably and a few other people getting quick results for their efforts.

      In short – we the souls have no control over the roles that are being played through us. Our roles go through various experiences which take us through the eternal journey of constantly changing sanskars.

      In other words, “I” am mechanically performing the same actions which “I” performed every kalpa and and am reaping the same fruits that are destined to happen. Yes, many times it feels as if we have taken a particular decision after meditating a lot about it… But if each moment in the drama is fixed, how could I have ever taken a ‘decision’ based on ‘my own’ judgement? Every so called judgement is predestined!

      Whenever sakar Baba or Avyakt Baba was questioned about some senior BK leaving his/ her body ‘abruptly’, Baba used to give the same reply, “It is fixed in the drama, Baba can not change it.” If that is the case, (if Baba Himself can not change the destiny), how can we ever ‘change’ / ‘create’ our destiny by making or not making effort? Can the future/ drama be changed? Are n’t we performing actions accurately as is defined by the drama no matter what our intentions are??

      How can we label a particular ‘soul/person’ good / bad when all that the person is doing is just obeying the drama script, knowingly or unknowingly? Actually, it is the other way round, it is not that he/she is performing the actions, it is the actions that are being carried out through him/ her; he/she is just a medium. 🙂

      Shrimat says that Drama is benevolent. Baba, the Ocean of Knowledge, the Ocean of Love, says that He loves the Drama and that it is accurate.

      Our moral standards, principles, customs, traditions, beliefs, etc. change from place to place and from time to time. We can not take any given belief as the global or eternal standard; Drama does not follow, does not work on the basis of man made rules and his beliefs, Drama follows its own course.

      Though we may feel that we have made intense effort and have brought in certain changes… but in reality, those thoughts, the effort making, etc are all predetermined. Just sit back and check – are we ‘creating’ our thoughts, or, are they flowing through us spontaneously? Remember that those thoughts are the basis for our words and actions too. In the drama, it is not just the words and actions, even the thoughts which are the basis for them are predetermined.

      For a long time we were under the impression that we can ‘change’ our lives, we ‘create’ our thoughts, etc. Actually, it is the other way, the soul is an empty pot which holds all its roles and the roles get expressed through us irrespective of our approval or disapproval.

      Then who am “I”? I am a soul which has absolutely no control over its roles!

      I am just a conveyor. Then, the questions of being a very elevated soul or a less elevated soul, or creating my fortune by making effort do not arise.

      “Then what are we supposed to be doing?” – one may ask.

      Baba tells us again and again, “Children, be a detached observer and perform actions; drama is predestined and is eternal and it repeats itself accurately every kalpa.”

      Some incidents in the drama made me wonder initially as to why i was involved/ impressed by them till i understood the predetermined drama.

      In my case, in this present role, according to drama – my father wrote my horoscope in a book when i was 6,7 year old and kept it safely in his shelf. Sometimes he did tell me a couple of points like – i would become very wealthy and very spiritual, but did not reveal anymore details.

      i come from a lower middle class family and i was not at all religious, nor traditional, nor did i pursue any spiritual path till i was almost 40. So, at times i used to laugh whenever i remembered my father’s predictions.

      When i was in my college, i happened to meet an astrologer who gave me some important details of my future. i was fascinated by his predictions but still laughed at them; my circumstances, life style, etc were nowhere any close to his predictions, nor did i try to make any effort to attain the things that he predicted; and with the passing of time, i almost forgot the whole incident.

      But to my amazement, things just started to happen the way he told me, and i did marry a relative of mine as he predicted (who also came from a poor family), and i did become quite wealthy (by Indian standards) in a matter of few years as my husband got a very good job in an International organisation… .. but still, i was leading a very worldly life and was neither religious nor spiritual. Exactly as he predicted, my spiritual life started with a bang…i started to have visions of the angelic Brahma Baba in the year 1990 and eventually grew very close to him…In 1993 i happened to take the basic course… and then on my life has undergone enormous changes.

      These experiences coupled with some experiences of my friends and relatives made me understand that the drama is predetermined which takes its own course without any conscious effort from our side. We are like a puppet and the drama makes it happen through us.

      Brahma Baba also used to say that we are all bound by the drama including Shiv Baba.

      Shiv Baba tells many times that He will not interfere in any one’s karma. But some BKs with their old sanskars of bhakti keep repeating, “Do not worry, Baba will help you, Baba will take care of you, Baba will change your husbad, etc.” And we have seen Brahma Baba, Mamma, quite a few seniors of the past and present suffering a lot from some illness or the other. If it was Baba’s duty/ role to help his children, He would have helped all the souls who were suffering.

      Whatever we are going through at the moment is accurate and is beneficial..

      Understanding the drama is a very very important factor in the subject of Raja Yoga. Knowledge of Drama is not mentioned in any scripture other than shrimat. So, let us understand and use this knowledge and develop a clear vision.

      May you be knowledge-full and trikaldarshi and remain constantly happy and content by knowing every secret of the drama.

      The children who are knowledge-full and trikaldarshi can never become upset (naaraaz). Even if someone defames or insults them, they would still remain happy (raazi) because those who understand every secret (raaz) of the drama cannot become unhappy. It is those who do not know the secrets who become unhappy. Therefore, always have this awareness: if you are not happy having become a child of God, the Father, then, when would you be happy? Those who are happy and content now are close to the Father and equal to Him.

      Om shanti.

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      • avyakt7- New Generation 11:10 AM on November 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Thank you for your article. It is very rational, convincing and it has your own experience in it to support your words. If you go deeper, you may see that even though you say “we” are conveyors or detached observers (As Baba said,) there is nothing to call “we.” There is the Drama and that “we” or “I” is part of it, not separated. The drop of water of the Ocean is not separated from the Ocean unless consciousness of that separation exists. In “reality” there is no drop of water. That is just a human perception.
        Therefore, “we” already ARE what “we” ARE looking to achieve through spirituality, tapasya, rituals, pujas, etc. It is just that “we” are not CONSCIOUS of it.
        That is the journey. From sleepiness to awaken-ness.
        Until consciousness IS, we only have beliefs. “We” ARE not what we understand. thus, what is the utility of mental understanding of “spiritual” things?
        Just to inspire. :-). I will post your article next Tuesday, before going on vacation on the 8th.

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        • Gayathri 3:06 AM on November 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          Dear Avyakt 7 NG, yes, an ocean is not created by adding drops of water, it has been existing eternally as one entity whether or not new drops of water got added to it from rains and rivers. There are many drops of water, but still, it is one ocean.

          That sounds good as far as the ocean is concerned. But, we the poor souls are subjected to various pleasant and unpleasant experiences in life.. that does not look fair or lucrative. 🙂

          Got your point, since all the ‘drops of water’ / souls are participants of one single drama called LIFE, we do not need to ‘work’ for achieving something or becoming something. The drama will automatically take us through various stages, and one day we may touch the “NO I” stage and then again slowly run into the “I” stage in the cycle of LIFE.

          Whatever you may say, brother, life has not been that enjoyable these days for me.. 🙂

          Funny drama, this one has no ‘delete’ button nor ‘fast forward’ button. And these churnings make me crazier. 😦

          But there are some nice points too to feel nice about the drama though … i do not need to toil, do not need to achieve any thing; instead, ‘success’ will come to me on its own. 🙂

          [“What is success?” – Being happy all the time. 🙂 ]

          I know, some people may ask me whether i want to be an escapist and/ or lead a life of laziness and carelessness. But actually, if i really, completely believe in whatever i have shared till now, i could lead a very carefree life… i am still in the process of convincing my mind in different situations where i am at the ‘receiving end’. 🙂

          Will share those things in another mail.

          Thanks.

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        • Gayathri 4:16 AM on November 10, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          From a message on internet:

          Drama & our roles

          New York is 3 hours ahead of California, but it does not make California slow.

          Someone graduated at the age of 22, but waited 5 years before securing a good job!

          Someone became a CEO at 25, and died at 50.

          While another became a CEO at 50, and lived to 90 years.

          Obama retires at 55, but Trump starts at 70.

          Absolutely everyone in this world works based on their Time Zone.

          People around you might seem to go ahead of you, some might seem to be behind you.

          But everyone is running their own RACE, in their own TIME.

          Don’t envy them or mock them.

          They are in their TIME ZONE, and you are in yours!

          Life is about waiting for the right moment to act.

          So, RELAX.

          You’re not LATE.

          You’re not EARLY.

          You are very much ON TIME, and in your TIME ZONE Destiny sets up for you.

          In conclusion, don’t rush to get and don’t be sad if things turn out to be slow.

          God makes all things beautiful in His time.

          Stay blessed!!!!

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          • Christopher joseph 6:12 AM on November 10, 2017 Permalink | Reply

            Thanks sweet Sister Gayathri”That was Very consoling ” Thanks” and enjoy your journey making it beautiful with”zero expectation ” 🤚stay Blessed 😊

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      • Christopher joseph 8:22 PM on November 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        *****like 😊Dear sweet soul your article made me churn a lot .according to the belief of the prerecorded cassette/drama all actors have to play their roles whether they like it or not and depends on the producer director and story writer of the drama who predetermines your role.Also to churn that a villain also has to get payed for his/her role.also I have to believe I am not responsible for the role I play for my role was already chosen.😊🤔 ….very convincing. 👍Thanks and Love. ……………..Om Shanti (*)

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        • Gayathri 3:10 AM on November 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          Thanks brother for your encouraging words. I have expressed my feelings about this ‘not so interesting drama’ in my reply to Avyakt7 NG just a while ago which appears above your message.

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          • Christopher joseph 9:46 AM on November 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

            Sweet sister another thought entered my mind.First of all I came into existence as a pure Soul and did not force my self into existence.My earthly father did not make me for sure.What is that which gives me the role of 84 births or 72 births or 60,50,40-2-1 birth.If I was born in the house of a rich man or a religious man or a beggar or a thief my life would be shaped accordingly.Also I am pure when I first came into existence.(karma not yet started) and have to be given a role.On what basis is my role chosen.Could you or Avyakt 7 NG or any bk/ex bk reading this blog give me a suitable answer/advice. (*) …waiting for replies 🤔🤔🤔😊

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            • Dinesh C 4:30 AM on November 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

              Hi Joseph, it’s nice to know that there are few more souls like you who don’t want to exist ever, I too thought same after experiencing momentary “No-I”, but Ahnanda has advised me to find and confirm few things, he neither agrees nor he disagrees.

              And regarding which role you get in the drama is mostly decided by the “efforts” you make according to Srimat of BKs, but those efforts are also predestined, basically you are not the “doer” MAY BE only an experience. Things are happening when you have the idea of “Doing” efforts, and NOTHING is happening if you are “NO-I”. But Drama is happening 🙂 Om shanti 🙂

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              • Christopher joseph 7:11 PM on November 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

                Sweet brother as you say the role I get depends on the effort I make.🤔My effort also is based on the role I get.also remember I came into existence as a pure unbiased soul If I was given a role of 84 births my efforts would be different than if I am given one birth and the family I’m born in.My saying “Wah drama ” as bk gyan tells us is meaningless as the drama doesn’t have a writer.When my role is enjoyable my gratitude goes to the director and script writer of the DRAMA.😊😊😊

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                • Dinesh C 12:52 AM on November 4, 2017 Permalink

                  Dear Joseph, the knowledge of drama as thought in BK gyan is to bring the “No-Mind” to some extent, not completely though. There is one article by Ahnanda on this page on the same topic.

                  But let me ask you one question, did u not exist even before coming into existence, in the point of light form in the supreme abode, I think by exixtence you only mean the drama existing on earth, existence is beyond and unbounded, they have a lesson on three worlds shown within the boundary of egg shaped structure, is there anything beyond the boundary that they have shown!!

                  Well bro I am seeker now, I thought I have got that what I wanted with BKs, so seeking, what am I seeking, don’t know! perhaps enhancement of spiritual experiences 🙂
                  Om shanti 🙂
                  But just a suggestion, I used to debate a lot with people for topics on spirituality but that is just to prove your Ego higher than other person, so I don’t encourage debates for myself now 🙂

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                • Gayathri 9:43 AM on November 4, 2017 Permalink

                  Dear divine family,
                  Om shanti.

                  The other day, some one brought up the topic of ‘making effort’ / purusharth. Here are some points. Please share your experiences too. 🙂

                  What effort do we have to make?

                  A. Slowing down thoughts?

                  Some feel that we have to slow down our thoughts so that we could experience a higher level of consciousness.

                  Can we really slowdown our thoughts consciously? NO.

                  The speed and quality of our thoughts are based SOLELY on our current level of consciousness. And the level of consciousness can not be changed by ‘preaching’ the mind, or following certain disciplines, or by leading a disciplined life; our consciousness is quite subtle and can not be influenced by physical actions or moral teachings. It undergoes changes by going through certain deep experiences and realisations. Intellectual understanding of things alone can not change our consciousness.

                  When we check ourselves, we notice that we do not need to make any effort to ‘create thoughts’, but ‘ready made’ thoughts pass through our minds. 🙂

                  In other words, thoughts ‘get created’ / formed before they ‘enter’ the mind of the ROLE played through the soul. 🙂

                  Yes, sometimes we focus on our thoughts and try to ‘create’ new ones by using certain logic and ultimately get satisfied when we arrive at some decision/ thought. And from then on, again, we find the thoughts ‘flowing through our minds’ without us making any effort to create them or by observing them.

                  When we analyze the process, we realise that whatever ‘logic’ we have used for a few minutes to channelise our thoughts, it was also TOTALLY based on our level of consciousness.

                  And the so called ‘channelisation of thoughts’ using some sort of logic also had happened ‘spontaneously’ based on our level of consciousness and the ONLY extra component that was present in our ‘logical thinking’ was that we were conscious of the thoughts that were flowing through our mind. 🙂 The thoughts that flow through the mind/ soul are all PREDETERMINED in this predetermined drama.

                  How to do service with the mind?

                  Whatever level of consciousness we possess at any given point in time has its own level of vibrations. They spread in the atmosphere based on their capacity and intensity.

                  When we give sakash to any particular person, we are channelising / focusing our vibrations to that soul/ person. That is how the other person receives it more than anyone else and can even experience receiving the sakash. We can give sakash to many people too, but how much we could serve through the mind depends on the LEVEL / capacity of our consciousness.

                  The power of sakash does not depend on our desire to serve, nor on the pressure that we may apply on our mind to serve the world; but it depends on our stage, the level of our consciousness.

                  I had the opportunity to meet some senior BKs who could give us the experience of bodiless stage just by glancing at us even when they were doing some physical work. But quite a few of us have to prepare ourselves, get ready to stabilise our mind, be silent, then focus on some one, in order to give drishti/ sakash. 🙂

                  Can we bring changes in others and in the self by doing service with the mind (through manasaa seva)?

                  As explained earlier, our thoughts, words, and actions depend on the level of our consciousness at any given time. When a change occurs in the consciousness, there will certainly be a change in our thoughts, words, and actions. But it is not vice – versa. That is, of course we can not change our thoughts, they are ‘ready-made’, but by trying to change our words and actions we can not change the consciousness.

                  For example – we see some people who adhere strictly to their own religious beliefs, preach very good things everyday to students/ followers, lead a very pious life; but their sanskars remain the same even after many years of following a spiritual path. Why is it so? 🙂

                  Doing things can not change one’s sanskars or consciousness.

                  They may be very ardent lovers of GOD, but their love is exclusively reserved for God (and not for co human-beings) because they hope and believe that God would appreciate and acknowledge their love for Him and would help them in their hour of need.

                  And even teaching and preaching spirituality is done to attain blessings from God (thinking God would be happy with his/her ‘altruistic’ service), and also that they would get respect and adoration from the students/ followers.

                  But when we watch their behaviour, we notice that they continue to compete with others, get jealous, angry, arrogant, harsh, etc. even after many years of leading a spiritual life.

                  So, in spite of ‘doing’ so much Godly service and leading a rigorous religious life, performing very good actions, one’s consciousness does not change until and unless that person goes through a series of experiences and realises and understands the change that is needed in him. This could take a few months, years, or a life time.

                  Will continue on some more points in my next mail.

                  Please share your thoughts and experiences too.

                  best wishes & regards,
                  Gayathri ben.

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      • Dinesh C 5:25 AM on November 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Really nice and wonderful explanation sister 🙂
        I recently became an OSHO lover, you might have heard about him, and I have mentioned him many times here on this blog, not for promoting him, but the closeness which you have felt for Brama Baba, I am currently feeling that for Master Osho, Rajneesh.

        There is one lecture of him on “Witnessing”, where he explains that the day he was completely out of the body, he could witness this world as a mare “DRAMA” and nothing else. Well, a lot of problems from psychological prospective are gone from my life because of just this one understanding that “DRAMA is there, but “I” am not there, and when “I” am there, DRAMA is not there”. Thanks to Ahnanda too 🙂

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        • Christopher joseph 5:00 AM on November 4, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          Very rightly said sweet brother Dinesh🤔😊(we are sailing in the same boat)and bk is the part of the journey which is necessary but it is not the end “just take the best and ignore the rest🤔😊(I pictured myself like a donkey walking with a carrot tied in front of him with a stick tied to him)on the JOURNEY TO THE UNKNOWN. I get a juicy carrot which avyakt7 wrote/writes which encourages my walk in search of the UNLIMITED.(with EGO clinging to me as an invisible parasite 🤔😊😊😊 👍Love U 😊 and remembering Him (*) the good thing I learnt.🤔😊

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 11:58 AM on October 17, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Worship “reasoning” to find “truth.” 

    If we could experience that our consciousness will give us a particular experience, then it will be very hard to pinpoint something as the “truth.”
    “Reason” is only a methodology to grasp certainty at the mental level. Reason is very superficial when we are dealing with the depth of Life. Nevertheless, most individuals rely on “reason” as the standard to find “truth,” what is “right.”

    Religions such as Brahma Kumaris and Christianity, have built their “truth” based on follower’s interpretations of experiences lived by their religious founders.
    The “Holy Bible” and the BK Murli are examples of that. They can only convey a particular perspective from a certain consciousness.

    If someone uses “rationality” to explore the Bible of the Murli, pretty soon there will be certain items which do not fit the rational standard.
    Then, their messages are discarded as “irrational.”
    We could argue all we want about the “truth” behind the Bible or the BK Murli. It is a very good mind exercise and nothing else.

    The Bible and the BK Murli are not meant to be dissected with rationality. They are meant to be followed, believed, respected. Those documents become the center stage, the source of authority to replace a missing presence of a God.
    “Blind faith” is required to go fully into their path.

    Unfortunately, this great opportunity to awaken to different kind of realities, doesn’t bring that benefit most of the time; but rather a “hard-nosed” follower who believes to have the “truth” or the chance to control followers for different purposes not related with inner-exploration.

    Going through the experience of whatever label/religion we believe to BE, is what will bring change in the individual.

    Whenever we embrace something like a religion or lack of it (atheist,) we will position ourselves at the starting point of our search in Life. The complete experience will be, once we reject that which we embraced at the beginning. That is the way of duality.
    This is not a mental agreement and then a rejection. Your whole BEING will be in it.

    BEING caught up in the existence of a God or lack of it, is of no consequence to change of consciousness and as such, to the possibility to self-realize.

    Once the search for God is over, there is no-God. But once no-God is embraced, then there must be God. That is the game of duality.
    Beyond that game, there is “I,” self.
    That is where the search may finish until we find “no-I.”

    Then, the search is over for there is nothing to search for a “nobody.”

    Yes. It is hard to understand. It is no rational. Thus, it is nonsense.
    The mind is caught up with itself.
    There are no “holy scriptures” or beliefs or lack of them that could take a person into the openness which is necessary to feel fulfilled in Life.

    Living Life experiences will do that. However, since those are too frequent, we dismiss their value. We are not awoken to OBSERVE the movements of Life and consciousness.
    We rather have a mental story in our minds backed up by rationality or lack of, to believe in.

    We are so “happy” by seeing pictures of a meal, rather than experiencing the meal itself. We try to search on how to quench our thirst, what is the “true method,” to do that rather than having the experience of drinking.

    Paradoxically, if you embrace thirst, satiation of thirst will follow… but then after that, thirst will be experienced again. How to get rid of thirst?
    By not making it into a “rational problem.”

    For the common good.

     
  • avyakt7- New Generation 10:48 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    The foundation of knowledge is faith 

    Murli 23-06-17

    Sweet children, the foundation of knowledge is faith. Make effort with your intellect having faith and you will reach the destination.
    Question:
    What one aspect should you understand deeply and have faith in?
    Answer:
    The karmic accounts of all souls are about to be settled and everyone will return to the sweet home like a swarm of mosquitoes. After that, only a few souls will go to the new world. This aspect should be understood deeply and you must have faith in it.
    Question:
    Which children is the Father pleased to see?
    Answer:
    The children who completely sacrifice themselves to the Father, those who are not shaken by Maya, that is, who are as unshakeable and immovable as Angad. The Father is pleased to see such children.
    Song:
    Have patience, o mind! Your days of happiness are about to come.

    A friend, sent me this Murli for my comments.  Here they are.

    In the Sakar Murli of 6/23/17, we could observe that knowledge according to Brahma Kumaris, has a foundation before it. That foundation is faith.

    Faith is a sentimental belief beyond rational, intellectual grasp.
    Knowledge is the theory, it is the belief of “truth.” It is something that could be explained to others, rationalized. In the case of Brahma Kumaris, it is the explanation on how everything works in Life, our “purpose” and what God is.

    For most followers, there is no experience of “knowledge.”
    It is a tale for grown-ups. What is the use of knowing that God is a soul, or that “I” am a soul if there is no experience of that?
    What is the use of the knowledge of predestination if there is no experience of that?

    Those are the theoretical aspects to believe in. Blindly.
    If those aspects of knowledge where experienced, there wouldn’t be a need to have faith.

    This is the first point to observe about this Murli.

    Again, in the second question there is the aspect of “understanding” intellectually what “karma” is and to have faith in that.
    There is the “theory of karma” and we should act according to our understanding of it.
    I act in a certain way and there are consequences of those actions. Karma is action.
    Let us say that I am riding my bike and a lizard appears from nowhere. I still have time to use my brakes, but I decide to go on thinking the lizard will “see” the bike. It doesn’t happen. The lizard gets run over. That is the action. What are the consequences?
    Karma is not as simple as that. INTENTION is a big player in every karmic consequence. However, that is not explained in Brahma Kumaris knowledge. A “black or white” knowledge is easy to follow, easy to understand; however, it is far from what it “is.”
    Brahma Kumaris is the path of the mind. To conquer the mind means to follow some activities, so even if internally thoughts are infused with negativity, even if the root is negativity, “I” will re-shape them into some learned “positivity” and reinforce that with some actions, karma, doings.

    We have not changed the source. No matter what we DO. Consider that.

    The second question in the Murli, is about “sacrifice” for the “Father.”
    How do you sacrifice? What is the need to sacrifice?
    Those are the main questions to answer. In my experience, any form of DOING for others, may have good reviews from others, it may be morally accepted and praised, but we are merely conforming to our conditioning.

    To follow a religious path is to “sacrifice” yourself. But, don’t believe that something “good” will emerge out of that. No matter how “unshakable” (stubborn) we become.
    Love has been the way, but when we do not know love, sacrifice has been invented.

    The “song” in the Murli gives importance to the mind. There is no happiness for the mind. The whole thing about the mind is to be active, to search for things, to be in movement wanting, desiring, acquiring, looking for something else.
    Happiness is in no mind, but this is not something to DO. It happens.

    For the common good.

     
    • Gayathri 9:04 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Om shanti.

      Thanks brother for explaining. The ‘no mind’ stage comes when we learn / realise to accept the drama as it is. Then there will be no goals to achieve, no need to criticise others.

      Having total trust in the drama that everything that is happening and the things that we are going to do are going to be the accurate ones makes our life’s journey entertaining. We can not become a ‘saint’ in one day even though we know all the rules and principles that one has to follow’ to become’ one. The day we become real ‘saints’ our behaviour would automatically be ‘saintly’. 🙂

      We do not need to ‘reach’ somewhere, we just have to keep going and enjoying life.

      (Today Gayathri ben has been speaking like an experienced spiritual person! Actually she has not reached that stage, she is just imagining the future path. 🙂 )

      best wishes,
      Gayathri.

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 11:36 AM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Question: How to make thoughts, words and deeds to be the same? 

    “I need your help to explain us two of the very beneficial teachings which I still have not been able to implement 100%, but want to as they are required to keep the flow of my life smoother. So here are those two teachings:
    No 1: Your thoughts, words and actions should be in harmony, what you think, same thinking should be reflected in your words and actions. (Mansa, Wacha and Karmana should be same)
    No 2: Abstain yourself from creation of waste thoughts.
    The only reason I still want to implement these two teachings in me is that I think about one thing, I say another thing and end up doing totally different third thing in actions. Can you PLEASE explain what a person can do (By now I know that you use DO and BE in caps in all of your articles ) to implement these two things by being and by not being a BK.”

    Thank you for your interesting question.

    Yes, I use caps for BE and DO, hoping readers will find that there is a huge difference.
    In your question, you want to “implement” a teaching. That sounds to me like “office world” conditioning. There, you implement plans, implement solutions, etc.
    When we are referring to BEING, it does not work like that.

    When the Brahma Kumaris teachings says: “Your thoughts, words and actions should be in harmony or be the same,” that teaching is not telling the follower to DO something, to implement something to “achieve” that goal, although that is the interpretation. Followers are unaware of the “office word” conditioning and unaware of how DOING something who you are not, only covers who you ARE .

    That teaching is merely describing how a BEING in harmony will express himself. Most want to BE that, but they do not acknowledge who they ARE now first. They just reject that.

    Let me ask the question: Are “your” thoughts really “yours”? If they are, why you cannot stop them at will? Why is it so difficult to “create” loving, good, wholesome thoughts all the time?
    That is the first realization to go into.

    BEING attracts particular thoughts. Thus, what about if you find that those thoughts are not really created, willfully thought by you, but that they just appear?
    Then the realization to OBSERVE those thoughts will be obvious, to use another Brahma Kumaris teaching, to be a “detached observer” of those thoughts.

    If you OBSERVE those thoughts appearing in the sky of your mind, could we say that “you need to abstain from creating waste thoughts”?
    We cannot, for those are not “my” thoughts.
    What is the issue then? We are not AWARE to OBSERVE. We IDENTIFY with everything that is going through the mind as “mine.”

    If there is that detachment from thoughts, what will be the problem then? None. If you FEEL what your ACTION should be and DO it; wouldn’t your words be along those lines?
    But we are afraid of discovering who we ARE. We want to look respectable, we want to DO the “right” thing and not DO according to what truly I AM. Thus, we miss the greatest opportunity to discover who I AM. It is through that discovery how change happens without DOING a thing.

    Would you like to DO something useful in your Life?
    Learn to OBSERVE yourself. Learn to read yourself as you can do with a friend. This is not meant to judge yourself, but to allow that to BE, so if you realize it, see it, not intellectually but consciously, change is inevitable.

    However, most “spiritual” teachings have been distorted through some “easy to follow” interpretation to cater to the masses.

    This is easy to understand: If you don’t like it, change it. If you think bad things, change it to good things… The power is on that “I” but yet, “I” cannot stop thoughts.
    We are not aware on how we change the original bad thought into a good one by faking it. The root is “bad” and we change the branch and leaf of the tree of a thought to make it “good.”
    That is called inner dishonesty.

    How long can we go with that “practice”? Until we become AWARE.

    For the common good.

     
  • avyakt7- New Generation 7:00 AM on May 11, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Spinning the discuss of self-realization 

    “The more you spin the discus of self-realization and inspire others to do that, the higher the status you will claim.” (5/5/17)

    What is the meaning of “Spinning the discuss of self-realization”?

    Do you think is just about DOING a mental drill such as: “I am a BK, then an angel and then a deity?”

    Do you believe that by repeating this drill 108 times every day, you will “improve” or self-realize?

    Are you compelled to follow these directions because “you” will get a “high status”?

    To DO as above only reveals an infantile consciousness. Nothing wrong with that. It is a beginning, but please don’t push the envelope by believing that this is the “truth” and “you” have it, or the “only method.”

    Please consider this. “You” know that in the cycle of time “you” have had many roles, many “I’s “going through the eternally repeating cycle.
    Who are “YOU”?  Do you see that?  You may say a “soul” but the container is not “YOU” the consciousness.

    You are/ may be a BK “now.” That is a fact. An angel, a deity… those are beliefs. However, you know that you will be a BK again and for that to happen many other roles, good and bad; right or wrong, had to be performed before reaching the role of a BK.

    Did you make any choices in the past roles to get to the BK role? Did you plan anything or it just happened to “YOU”?

    Do you see that “YOU” only ARE something when “YOU” identify with a transient role? Do you see that all roles are transient?
    Who are “YOU”?

    Nothing specific, but every role, everything…. Don’t forget, there is no “I” choosing a role.

    When you ARE nothing but everything, would you be interested in gaining a high status? When you ARE nothing but everything, would you be interested in spinning the discus?

    “You” are self-realized. Others mingling with you would be inspired for there is no identification with anything and openness to Life  as that is “you.” A “high status” may be waiting… but not for “YOU.

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh 2:40 PM on May 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      I remember starting this pratice …initially u start this for 2 to 3 minutes…then a Bhrama Kumari doing same for many years guides u doing swadarshan chakra for 15 minutes…but i wonder about one thing…what if i never came in golden age n silver age.. still i m spending 7.5 minutes in some kind of hallucination to make myself feel like a deity…but when i eat hakka sheshwan noodles…i feel more than a deity and that too for more than 7.5 minutes with reality…i know it’s kinda funny but just trying to differentiate hallucination n reality… 🙂

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    • Mark 2:23 AM on May 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Have you any advice for people who cannot go to a centre and must practice alone?
      I have been practicing for just over a month but live in China, where I know of no centres or gatherings of BK brothers and sisters. I am reading the daily murli and getting so much drishti from it I’m making notes from each murli. Is this right? It’s a lonely business and I’m not experienced enough to open a centre or gathering. Any advice would be appreciated on being a lone BK in China.

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      • ahnanda 12:08 PM on May 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Thank you for your question, Mark. It will be answered in an article next Tuesday. In the meantime, if you have the desire, could you share how did you become a BK? Your English is pretty good. Are you in China temporarily? Thanks.

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        • Mark 7:40 PM on May 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          Hi Ahnanda, I was lucky enough to go to the Sheffield BK centre in the UK before I came to China to teach and I am in Beijing. We are able to get BK sites through a VPN where I work. It’s lovely to make contact.

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 7:00 AM on May 4, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Destruction is just ahead 

    “Destruction is just ahead” is one of the most unforgettable lines of a Sakar Murli. It is the motivation for many BKs to “make effort.” Little time remains, hurry up! Or you will be sorry for eternity that “you” failed!

    The interesting thing is that “failure” is open for discussion and “you” will not be able to find out if “you” made it or not. Once “you” leave the body (die) there is no longer “you.”

    But what about your “subtle body”? That is the “you” that will suffer!
    Nevertheless, my “subtle body” is already “there” but yet “I” am not aware of it… Isn’t that a wonder?

    Is “Mama” in the subtle region or with the “advance party”?
    This is a nice question to ask. That question should take care of the ideas about the “I” and the “you” but… not too many will understand… so stick with that “I.”

    How ahead is “just ahead”? That is the question!
    What I learned about the “subtle experiences” is that humans tend to make assumptions. We may have a dream about destruction. Shall we say that it will be within 10 years?
    Based on what?
    Are we looking for “signs,” such a war in some country, or a natural disaster some other place, etc?

    That could be, but maybe not.
    What about if our vision or dream was misinterpreted?
    Maybe. Maybe not.

    Life (Drama) has many curves. It is not meant to be as humans believe or understand to be.

    A dream or a vision may be just that. May be not. It could happen in your lifetime. Maybe not.

    It is that uncertainty what kills us, that is what will make us DO things to be “safe” in case something happens…
    The “prize” for being prepared is “heaven.” Nevertheless, no one will ever find out if they were prepared or not… How do you prepare? Is it on “you” to settle your karmic accounts? How do you know if ALL of them were settled?  🙂 By not living life? By safely surrounding yourself with as little people as possible?

    “Destruction is just ahead.” That is how newness appears… but as we know, we are “eternal souls” so what is the “problem”?
    Most want newness but they will not let go of that which is old.
    That is not new at all, but a modification of the same thing to make us believe that we are on target…  Do you want to “save” yourself? Do you want to live in Madhuban or India to make sure that you will continue to exist?  You see, it is all about “you.” It is that “I” the one that needs a promotion before it shrinks!

    For the common good.

     
  • avyakt7- New Generation 3:36 PM on June 28, 2016 Permalink | Reply
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    Question:BapDada, what is all about? 

    “Many things in the bkworld and the reasoning I am able to understand like trying to increase the ego,contrasting and contradicting things baba says in the murli, the various rules and discipline they advise to follow etc.I would love to understand your experience of ‘Bap Dada’ or Baba Milan….what it is all about…from your ‘new’ perspective…?
    Apologies for such a long rant…:D”

    Thank you for your well elaborated question.
    I can only speak about my experience with BapDada from the time I was a BK. Here is an article I wrote a few weeks ago about it.

    As I mentioned before, Brahma Kumaris is a path for “self-realization,” but it is not the “only true path.” As a matter of fact, it could be only part of someone’s journey as it was my case. Every journey is different.

    Yes, Ahnanda sees from a different perspective. That is your question relating to, but I cannot answer that, for there are many BKs who need to go through the BK experience without yet another belief. It is not a matter of coming with another opinion, belief or “truth.” Every single one of us has to discover that.

    Just as you have experienced in your journey. You explained that you did not read any of these writings until recently even though you have been receiving these writings from a long time; similarly, every BK follower needs to experience their own process. It doesn’t mean that “I have the truth,” NO! That is a misleading word, once you realize that our journey is very personal indeed.

    To be able to fully take benefit of the BK path as any other path, you may need to be 100% into it. If you were a “pukka” BK, you wouldn’t be reading these things. You could only have the openness to read these things if you aren’t completely satisfied.  BK knowledge calls that as “having doubts,” but there is a huge difference between mental doubts, which could be pacified with “answers,” and feeling unfulfilled. That is where inner honesty becomes important.

    As mentioned before, the BK path from my experience; is about increasing the ego, which is necessary before its dissolution.

    For those without the experience of ego, they may think that ego is about those things which make you feel “good” such as: “You are a deity, you are a true Brahmin, you are a selected son of God, you are angel, you are an ancestor soul, etc.” But ego also increases in the opposite side, as when someone feels “bad” because they didn’t wake up for Amrit vela, ate meat, had sex, watched mundane TV programs, etc. The labels then will change: “unworthy child, Silver/Copper age soul, cremator, shudra, etc.” That is a way to increase ego as well through the opposite side.

    Times have changed. Nowadays everyone could have different information about different religions and compare those teachings. In that, they may appear contradictory, everyone has their take on what God is or isn’t.
    That is why it is difficult to be 100% in a particular path to feel its full effect… and that is something that every religion will warn you about: “Don’t listen to anyone else but us.” That is until you are unfulfilled.

    The mind, the intellect could prevent us from experiencing the “ego trip” which is necessary for our development.
    For instance, I recall some intellectuals saying: “I don’t know how those people can join a cult and do everything they ask them to do. They don’t have a bit of discernment, critical skills…”

    Intellectuals do not understand the experience. I wouldn’t have joined the BK movement unless I had an experience with something unknown to me at that time, which my education and mental skills couldn’t explain. That was my experience with Brahma Baba. At that point, I surrendered my “critical skills,” which only help protect the ego, the persona, that “I” created through my beliefs and ideals.

    As “avyakt7” I had wonderful experiences with BapDada which helped me go through the BK path. As Ahnanda, I do not need those anymore, just as a child grows up and goes out of his father’s home. 

    Finally, I am not writing here to ask anyone to leave the BK movement. I am not here to ask you to stay either. I now see, that I am writing here to express my experience with inner honesty. The importance of not lying to ourselves. That is all.
    Intellectual knowledge is good, but not enough. Once we learn everything there is (knowledge) we need to unlearn it, to BE by getting out of the mind. That is the way of Life, the process, the journey.

    What I think, what you think is not what is important; but to be aware of our journey.

    For the common good.

     
    • vageeshverma 3:52 AM on June 29, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Beautiful article ! Though you didn’t share your ‘personal’ take 🙂 But it doesn’t matter…
      Probably have learned to see the unity and contradictions together…and rather then questioning it…marvel at it 🙂

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      • avyakt7- New Generation 10:12 AM on June 29, 2016 Permalink | Reply

        🙂

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        • vageeshverma 3:01 AM on June 30, 2016 Permalink | Reply

          Hi Ayakt/Ahnand ??

          Don’t understand your fancy names !

          Read your article on “There is no fulfillment in the mind” about the intellectual/philoshpher, agree to most of it and also felt as if it was directed at me 🙂

          But just a question : Who are you ? an intellectual or philosopher or ??I know these are just labels, what comes closest to defining your writings?
          You say “A strong experience, something intense will change a person.” or in other words Life has to be lived not thought about intellectually, totally agree.But then why do you write incessantly, article after article…daily, multiple blogs…whats your motive…a livelihood or you think repeating the same things will make us all finally understand what you have experienced ?
          Please take it politely though it may not sound because of the type of question.

          Regards
          Vageesh

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          • avyakt7- New Generation 10:33 AM on June 30, 2016 Permalink | Reply

            For some, I am an intellectual. For others, a philosopher. For the ones who truly know me, I am none of those labels, but a life walker sharing his experiences.

            My “motive” is to share my experiences. I don’t know “why” I write incessantly. Perhaps, I have too much free time in my hands…. 🙂
            Oh… one more thing. These writings are not for you or for me… for us, all of us… whoever has free time to read them.. 🙂

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    • vageeshverma 1:01 PM on June 30, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Do you know yourself truly?

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      • avyakt7- New Generation 2:26 PM on June 30, 2016 Permalink | Reply

        Truly I know …that “I” am not.

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        • Shalini Bajpai 9:39 PM on June 30, 2016 Permalink | Reply

          What do you exactly mean when you say “i”
          am not..
          ‘i’ is used to denote our own self, ‘you’ to the person in front of us, ‘he’ to a third person..
          what is your point ?

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          • avyakt7- New Generation 9:43 PM on June 30, 2016 Permalink | Reply

            You will find out when “you ” are there. Right now observe how much you want to understand Life and being through words.

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            • Shalini Bajpai 3:55 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

              I replied to your text…but i wonder its not yet appearing here..

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            • Shalini Bajpai 3:57 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

              Is my text not reaching u?

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          • vageeshverma 2:23 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

            Shalini the point is that what you have said is true for practical purposes…as a method of identification but we tend to carry the same feeling in our minds…as if ‘I’ am just myself..separate from anything else…existing almost in isolation and limited to just’I’…if you observe deeply you can see the unity of everything and that ‘I’ that we think exist actually doesn’t….sorry for being so contradicting and confusing..:)…just trying my best to express that feeling

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        • vageeshverma 2:23 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

          Due you carry the above feeling always ?

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          • vageeshverma 2:26 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

            This one is directed to Avyakt …the comments sequence is pretty confusing

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          • ahnanda 11:34 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

            Does it matter to you? Why?

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            • vageeshverma 12:11 PM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

              It doesn’t matter to me much…just a curiosity if tht feeling stays…( the seeker or greed inside me talking probably)….secondly u dismiss something as neo intellectual…at the same time indulge in something similar…. stands out … showing a bit of lack of compassion…which is strange… probably not inline with your writings…just checking is it something i won’t understand now or is there a lack of honesty or transparency on your part……hehe.
              .i know a stupid question:)

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              • ahnanda 1:47 PM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

                Ah! A life mystery. Opinions will remain, debates could appear, perspectives, points of reference … As the sage said”curiosity killed the cat.” Once the cat is gone, so it is with curiosity. 🙂

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    • Shalini Bajpai 6:40 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      As we know that we are souls, must have been an oppossite gender in some other birth..
      so want to know if “romance” which is the desire of every heart is an illusion?

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      • vageeshverma 10:37 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

        Sorry for posting a neo intellectual link… its not an answer to your question… probably the more’ learned’ or ‘ unlearned’ ahanada can answer that…listen to it if you enjoy it :

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      • ahnanda 11:33 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Reply

        Do you know that we are souls or you just believe that we are souls? Big difference.
        If you knew, we were souls… then to know that “I am not,” will make lots of sense… You want to know if romance is an illusion.. You will find out once you know if the one having the illusion, is an illusion or not. 🙂

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    • Shalini Bajpai 10:26 AM on July 2, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      Vageesh, what do you mean by saying have started seeing unity and contradiction together..

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      • vageeshverma 12:59 PM on July 2, 2016 Permalink | Reply

        Shalini was trying to refer to the various opposites…right and wrong…white or black we tend to be struck in…though they may not be opposites…but may be like a circle….both incomplete without the other…anyways leave it…just be happy :)…if u have lot of free time….listen to this alan watts link for spiritual entertainment 🙂

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    • Shalini Bajpai 10:32 AM on July 2, 2016 Permalink | Reply

      I realise im a soul atleast when i do my occasional meditations.

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