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  • avyakt7- New Generation 6:17 AM on July 31, 2019 Permalink | Reply
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    If everything is fixed. Who is there to “try”? Response to “Rosem” 

    Rosem”, thank you for your reply in the comments section.

    I respect your beliefs and I am not here to take away your right to believe in what you feel is “true.”

    Nevertheless, Brahma Kumaris knowledge could be taken in different ways according to our consciousness and “spiritual experiences.” Thus, the literal way to take gyan according to some “BK nimit” (instrument) may bring comfort and security of “knowing” something to followers; but ultimately it may bring heavy misunderstanding as we go deeper, which is evidenced as time goes by, for consciousness of different individuals will awaken to different realities.

    Let me show you an example in your own writing (in red): At the end you write: “In other words Drama is another word for Karma.”

    Many BKs will not understand that, for they have been taught that Karma is what happens to “you” (the “I”) and Drama is what happens outside “you” (outside the “I”).

    BK teachings as far as I remember taught Karma in one of the first lessons and Drama right along with the cycle of time in a lesson of its own. The PERCEPTION is that those are different subjects. However, you mention those two words (karma and drama) to be interchangeable.

    Now, let me go a notch further: Isn’t karma the same as the “role” which the container, the “soul”, expresses through a body?

    Yes, they are. Karma is the role at the end of the day.  The question goes like this: Who is that Karma /role affecting to? Answer: The “I.”

    Then, we go a step further: “Am “I” the role/karma/Drama?”

    That is where BK “theory” starts weakening. Some will say: “ I am not the role, I am a soul.” They bring the word “soul” to mentally get out of that “I” but without losing  the beloved perception of “individuality”. However, in reality their behavior and consciousness does not follow that “understanding.” In “reality” they are a role. Their consciousness is stuck in the role. Other BKs are unable to perceive that  relationship and instead they deny the body. “I am a soul not a body” for their consciousness is physical.

    However, Murlis will say: “Become soul conscious” and yet, most BKs will say “I am a soul”. There is a world of difference between those 2 statements. Different consciousness brings different understanding.

    Then BapDada comes along and “tries” again in another way: “Become a detached observer.” Something which is expressed in the Avyakt Murlis and which is known outside the BK world as “witnessing”.

    So where am I getting to? At the end is not to get stuck in “holy words” and concepts, but to EXPERIENCE that consciousness to understand beyond the mind, by using “gyan” (If you are a BK) as a road map. This is “churning knowledge.”

    Once we go into “detached observer” we will need to understand/experience that which we call “I” and the experience of “no-I”. Then, “gyan” has a different meaning.

    When you quote: “Those who have done the most devotion are the ones who will go fast in knowledge and they will also claim a high status.”—(Murli 26.07.2019) “

    That quote should have another significance now.

    Do we get stuck in just the words expressing ideas, concepts, memorize them and use them in writings just to be known as a “knowledgeable soul” by our peers, which is inconsequential, or do we go into the experience once we have looked at the depth of knowledge?

    To know what is Drama and Karma is not the depth of Gyan. But to go into the experience of the “I” is, no matter what our belief system is, no matter what our religion professes, we still go back to the very basic.

    In the world of duality if there is “I” there is “no-I”.

    Here goes another “food for thought” based on your response:

    …THE PERCEIVER who has to be real, existent to make the very act of perceiving. “

    The PERCEIVER and the perception are the same. It is explained here ( https://explore7.wordpress.com/2019/07/11/looking-at-self/ ) with the labels “observer” and the “object observed.”

    The perceiver requires consciousness to perceive. That consciousness is not “his” but is given by the Drama (life itself). “Fixed by the Drama”. Which fixes what the perceiver (“I”) should perceive and fixes the perception that there is a perceiver (“I”) perceiving.

    That is why the “Drama is a game.” Life is a game.

    When BKs say “nimit” they mean that “Baba is the DOER, I am an instrument.”  Looking with depth now, we could see something different. BKs also like to say that “Baba is the director of the Drama”. Again, with depth, we can see different. Nevertheless, we may not want to hurt susceptibilities and ingrained beliefs. That is a challenge.

    I would like to end this brief response to express one more time that I have respect for the Brahma Kumaris movement. It has been a “school” for me and for that reason, I respect the process of many BK brothers and sisters but at the same time, Avyakt7-NG fulfills his mission here, which is to share his experiences.

    Some will find benefit, others will not. That is part of the game of duality.

    All the best.

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    • rosem777333 8:02 AM on August 1, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you for your response. I agree with you that we should not “get stuck in just the words” rather we should “go into the experience once we have looked at the depth of knowledge.”
      This is the reason why I wrote that particular article. It is this very experience about the subject Drama that changed my life for the better [whereas my best friend went in opposite direction even though we both together started the 7-day course with BKs. Subject of Drama was a stumbling block for my friend]. In fact, subject of Drama has been the best-liked subject for me, something that helped me in all directions.

      As you rightly said BK system is a school. It would mean response of students would vary. For anyone who wants to conquer sin/Maya, BK system is the best because the rest of the isms concentrate on what is being limited, hence not adequate enough to destroy the very basis of ego. They all are limited because they revolve around a beginning:

      1) Some say: ‘In the beginning God created heavens and earth’ (which leaves the question unanswered—What was before that beginning?)

      2) Some say ‘In the beginning souls remained merged in God, then they took births to purify themselves only to be merged back to God’ (which leaves the question unanswered–why souls that were in God required purification in the first place)

      3) Opposite camp says ‘In the beginning there was a Big Bang’ which ultimately caused everything including all forms of life on earth).

      Such a limited view of things has a beginning and an end which is, in comparison with infinity, would amount only to something like a bubble in the ocean. It is obvious that there is always something preceding to something which means there cannot be a beginning for anything. Only an eternally existing universe can answer the question of why the universe exists rather than not. If universe had beginning in some past it presents the possibility that the universe need not have existed. If there is beginning, it means before the universe’s so-called beginning, there was nothing, it means that nothingness is possible. If nothingness was possible, this state of affairs would only continue forever, with such a universe not coming into being. All limited views are like a still photo from an infinite motion picture. In limited view, it is likely that one would feel—life is limited, and ‘I would accumulate to the maximum I can before the time is due, which means self-importance. In self-importance, one feels everything strongly. If his desire is not fulfilled, he feels anger; if his desires are fulfilled, then he feels greed and attachment. THUS LIMITED VIEW IS THE BREEDING GROUND FOR VICES.

      But BK teaching of Drama is like an infinite motion picture. In such unlimited view, nimth-bhav (instrument mentality) easily arises in one who really understands Drama. In nimith-bhav, if one’s desire is not fulfilled, he feels no anger; if his desires are fulfilled, then he feels no greed and no attachment. Equipoise rules his life when he goes through all types of dualities. This is what spirituality means. In nimith-bhav, life is viewed as a PROCESS, not a problem. Nature of life is such that if one unblocks and allows it to flow, life is beautiful experience. If one holds back, gets stuck with what he likes, or skips/hates what he dislikes, life becomes misery.

      When everything is part of a PROCESS, nothing is viewed as problem as everything is a flow of many factors and forces. If one sees something as problem, then he will ask questions, but in PROCESS, there is no ground to ask question. Drama is a PROCESS, a never-ending cycle of Kalpas–that has no beginning, and has no end. This view provides no ground for anyone to feel self-important. Thus if Drama is really understood, such UNLIMITED VIEW IS THE BREEDING GROUND FOR VICES.

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    • rosem777333 8:14 AM on August 1, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Kindly read the last lines as this:
      Thus if Drama is really understood, such UNLIMITED VIEW IS THE BREEDING GROUND FOR VIRTUES.

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    • rosem777333 8:54 AM on August 1, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      When Drama is understood properly, many other things fall in their right place:

      1) One easily understands how Confluence-Aged events are remembered in essence through festivals belonging to the second half of the Kalpa.

      2) Why many words are coined in such a way that captures the highlights of Confluence Age such as the word for meditation, dhyan = dhee (intellect) + yan (travel) which explains the essence of Rajayoga meditation….etc,

      or the highlights of first half of the Kalpa. For example, word for female is vanitha in Indian languages. Etymology shows vanitha as ‘one who is to be venerated, from the root vandya. In second half of the Kalpa, women are treated as second class citizens, hence the word vanitha must have its beginning in the first half of the Kalpa. In fact it was God Shiva who gave rise to this concept addressing the mathajis [the elderly women folk] of BKs as Vande Matharam which means “I praise thee, Mother.” This concept that was started in Confluence Age was continued naturally to Golden Age through the word Vanitha.

      I have found many examples of such words which prove the existence of a perfect system of things in the first half of the Kalpa, and imperfect system of things in the second half of the Kalpa.

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 7:05 AM on July 3, 2019 Permalink | Reply
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    The cycle of time beyond BK conditioning. 

    A deep understanding (if at least intellectual) of the significance of the cycle of time will give us the answers which many different religions, philosophies and “isms” have presented during our history.

    Cyclical time is not an exclusive belief of Brahma Kumaris, but in my humble opinion; there hasn’t been writings or “churnings” which I am aware of, considering the depth of it.

    Let me present some items to consider using BK philosophy.
    Have you heard in “New Age” the popular: “we are all ONE”? Probably we have heard several explanations to try to make sense of that one: “Brahman is Atma. Atma is Brahman” is one of them.
    Everything which is included in the cycle of time is bound to belong to it, including “your” thoughts. Yes, we are all ONE.
    A jigsaw puzzle has pieces. Every piece has meaning as part of the puzzle. However, the puzzle has meaning thanks to the picture over the pieces (typically landscapes.) That picture is the “Drama of Life” depicted by the movement of the world cycle. Every piece has a small chunk of the whole picture. A piece is nothing by itself; but only in relationship with other pieces to make something bigger than themselves.

    Even the picture of the “3 Worlds” depicts a relationship between “Parandham”, the “Subtle Region” and the Physical World. The “world Drama” happens in the physical realm; but there is influence of the other two realms. There is a continuous interchange. What is the “purpose” of “Parandham” other than to supply “souls” to the physical world? At the same time, isn’t the purpose of the physical world to supply souls to Parandham? Isn’t the subtle region in a way, a reflection of the physical world?
    Therefore, everything works in synchronicity and there is no one accounted for that feat. No need of a “creator”. It just happens.
    The Universe is perfect, despite the popular saying that “Nothing is perfect”, we could now observe that nothing could be but perfect. For it IS as it has to BE.
    “Perfection” is not a human ideal to reach. It already IS.

    Therefore, Who are you?
    Isn’t the “soul” merely an agent of destiny “equipped” for every journey, every Life, with particular experiences?
    Where is your “free will” then?
    That will probably hurt most “unprepared” egos. That is probably why we haven’t heard about the cycle of time with certain depth yet. It is easier to say: “ Baba says, it is a predestined Drama; but you can change things “now” (free will) because we don’t know what will happen.” A “shrewd intellect” could realize that we have to DO things, certainly; but we are driven to DO something based on circumstances, conditioning, etc. That unobserved drive we could call “free will”, the name is irrelevant; what is important to notice is consciousness behind an action; and consciousness does not depend on us. It happens.
    Religions have pretended to go around this obvious observation, by creating an artificial moral system whereby a particular ACTION is labeled as “good” without care on consciousness. The output of such trap is that many followers will DO something labeled “right” although, they do not feel in the same direction.

    Let me illustrate: According to BK knowledge, “sex is bad.” Don’t DO it. However, is that truly the way you feel? In other words, is your CONSCIOUSNESS according to that action? That is how repression arrives and many mental problems after that.

    Now, let me go into the trap of “I”.

    Who “I think I am” is merely that. It has no significance in Life but in our artificial society. Moreover, It has no significance if “I think that I am important, now or in the future.” It is all human day dreaming.

    There is NO ONE in “you”. Nothing. Go to sleep at night. The mirage is gone. It happens every day of our life.
    Alzheimer anyone? Who are “you” if you don’t remember? Others may remember “you”, but we are always changing. What “YOU,” do they remember then? That “soul” (Atma) is only a container. It is not “self.” As every BK knows, that container can have up to 84 lives (experiences in Life) all “recorded” already.  Again, “self” is not “soul.” “You”(self) will not go beyond this experience which we call Life. Please “churn” that. It is all coming from the understanding of the predestined world cycle.

    Now, let us take a look at “Predestination.”
    It merely means that the consciousness that we have is already set up, as we are part of the cycle of time; and it has to display different circumstances according to “time.”
    “We” are merely agents of “time”. “Fabricating” changes which are already set up. Thus, the morality of “good and bad” is another human creation not supported by Life itself. Life is beyond “good and bad”. There will be consequences of “our” actions, yes; but we will be equipped to withstand those as well. That is known as “karma.”

    What is this idea of “God” then? I will not go into that at this time, as I have offered enough to “churn about”. If you’d like to explore that, you may do it.

    Don’t we feel trapped, like “puppets” moved by the puppeteer, the “Drama”? Do you feel unhappy?
    That is because we do not understand a thing, yet.

    Nothing is asked from “you”. Nothing to “do.” No purpose to reach. “You” are already FREE.
    All you have to DO is ENJOY, APPRECIATE and SMILE. That is the “effort”.
    Whatever you DO is meant to BE. Wherever you ARE is meant to BE.
    Look how the conditioned mind wants you to “achieve,” to “make effort,” to “save yourself”. No time for enjoyment. Got to get busy… “Do service.”

    As “I” am dying from “myself”, death becomes not only acceptable but liberating. Do you think “I” am afraid of “destruction just ahead”? Isn’t that only another picture of the jigsaw puzzle?

    “I” am a soul. 🙂 How could you BE a soul (container) if “YOU” are not?
    “Atman is Brahman”. That is more accurate but typically; misunderstood.

    There you have something “new,” precious to churn about; thanks to the cycle of time. 🙂

     
    • Gayathri 2:30 AM on July 5, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      I like the words, “..Every piece has a small chunk of the whole picture. A piece is nothing by itself; but only in relationship with other pieces to make something bigger than themselves….”
      “Even the picture of the “3 Worlds” depicts a relationship between “Parandham”, the “Subtle Region” and the Physical World.”
      Well, i am a soul, the container, that contains all the roles that i need to play in a kalpa.
      Thanks for sharing the gems.

      Gayathri.

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      • avyakt7- New Generation 8:37 AM on July 5, 2019 Permalink | Reply

        An empty soul, with nothing other than pre recorded roles to play. It is that emptiness the one that we discover when the mind is still or not there. We call that peace. Another name “Brahman.”

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    • Gayathri 12:07 PM on July 18, 2019 Permalink | Reply

      Here is an article by “Rose Mary” on Drama.

      If everything is fixed, why should I try?

      When it is told that everything in the Drama is fixed and repeats itself every Kalpa, some may feel: “If so, why should I try? Would it not be boring? ..etc.”

      Just like there could be wrong answers, there could be improper questions also. For example, after seeing non-vegetarians enjoying their food, one cannot ask “Is flesh of other living beings a very enjoyable food?” This question is not fully right because it has conflicting answers. Flesh is a delightful food for one group whereas flesh is highly abhorrent for people who value lives of other living beings. Similarly, you can’t ask “Is an idol (pratima) good?” because some religions hate it whereas in India, pratima is helpful. Prathima [from the root ma = to measure] is defined as Prathimeeyathe ithi prathima which means conveying the character of god/goddess in equal measure into another medium, as in the case of picturization of Narayan whose core characteristics are shown through four hands holding swadarshana chakra (knowledge that he is atma), mace (victory over Maya), lotus (purity) and conch (announcing the knowledge of incoming Golden Age with others and enabling others to become like him).

      That means conflicting answers can have for certain questions depending on various factors, and true meaning of a statement is inseparably connected with its context. In the context of saying history repeats identically every cycle, God may say ‘even a fly that passes by your face may do so in the next cycle too.’ People who look for essence rightly think: “If so, the more important things too will surely repeat identically.” It is not unusual to take minor things to highlight major things. For example, Jesus said: “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye” (Mathew 7:3) He was not thinking about a dust particle. Rather he was saying most people are inclined to see even the minor faults of others (not their own major faults); thus they never feel the need to change, hence good and bad people repeat what they have been doing (Mathew 12:35) and because of this he declared: “Wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.” (Mathew 7:13, 14)

      When God Shiva says ‘everything repeats itself’—it is simply His experience that everything repeats itself. He gives a perfect start to humanity at the start of every Kalpa and they reach decadence in the end, hence He has been renewing what has become old at the end of each Kalpa. Things begin to become old as inhabitants on earth fall into forgetfulness about true nature of themselves and of God; thus history is cycle of “forgetting and not forgetting” (Murli 05.09.2017) which is all about repetition. Things repeat in small and large scale. To mention a few examples: Billions of deaths have occurred, yet people repeat the style of living as though they will not die. Even though mechanism of Cause and Effect is everywhere, most people repeat hoping they can evade consequence for their actions, thus we have increasing crime rate, abortions …etc. Everyone knows sensual pleasures are sweet in the begging but bitter in the end resulting in many sufferings, yet people repeat running after them. Even though everyone in India knows Gandhiji entered into politics with no selfish interest, people repeat entering into politics with selfish interest.

      The reason why people repeat is that each atma is unique and has also unique sanskar. Hence even though one may think that he is choosing his action, in fact he is only unfolding according to his likes and dislikes. People going to a restaurant and ordering for different items may give the impression that they are choosing. In fact, each one is only acting according to his taste and liking which is NOT CHOOSING. Likes and dislikes are fixed whereas choice is dynamic. One may unwillingly donate for a welfare cause all because he is worried about his image, thus his donation was a forced giving, NOT A CHOICE. What people do is only an expression of what they really are. What one is doesn’t depend on him. What is in the tank only will come through the tap. What is in one’s sanskar only will come out as his actions/reactions. Hence whatever one does is unfolding of his likes and dislikes which is, in effect, like ROLLING DOWN, hence choice is not a right word to describe our actions. Our actions are best described by the word nimith or “instrumental consciousness,” says Gulzar Dadi (World and Wisdom of Gulzar, p. 74). Because it is under various factors and forces that each person acts. This word nimith is a combination of ni (down, back) and mitha/mith (moderate/measure, from the root ma, to measure) [as in nirog which means “free from disease”]. Hence when you say “I am nimith” it means your part in any happening is too small to measure as you are flowing with many factors and forces (seen & unseen, discernible & indiscernible). When you say “I had my lunch” it may look too simple. But, to make it possible, how many people should work directly and indirectly—including the invisible labor force of micro organisms working beneath the mud in the farmlands?

      In view of the above, one would easily understand the import of what Baba says “even the fly that passes your face will repeat it in the next Kalpa.” This is just another way of saying everything (micro and macro) repeats, and this statement often comes with other statements such as: “BKs are those who do not engage in vices. If a BK commits any vice, he/she will lose his/her status and will also receive 100 times punishment…..etc.” Thus in essence what He says is that Drama is a play of both freedom and destiny. All those who are acting do not feel they are acting in a fixed way but feel that they are choosing, yet in fact they are only unfolding according to their sanskar. There is no choice in unfolding, it is fixed. Hence actions are fixed, and results are inseparable from action, hence they too are fixed.. Fixed by whom? By each individual. For example, Baba says: “You could even go higher than Mama and Baba, but the conscience says that no one can go higher than Mama and Baba.” (Murli October 09, 2017) In other words, in Drama everything repeats because of the fixed thinking of individuals. In some cases it is very obvious. For example, habitual late comers have a fixed thinking; and habitual time-keepers too have a fixed thinking; hence both groups repeat their habit.

      When BK gyan was introduced to us we readily and delightfully accepted it, and superficially it seemed it was our choice. Yet truth is that we accepted because it matched with our sanskar. When I went through the 7-day course of Brahmakumaris, I felt an overwhelming leaning towards it from my subconscious mind to accept it readily as though I have lived through the first perfect half of the Kalpa. In other words, it was like I was re-awakened to BK gyan just like I am awakened from sleep by the sound of an alarm clock which is not a choice in its real sense. Those who reject BK gyan too do the same in every Kalpa. They are like those who have never visited foreign countries; and to them names of foreign countries are just names with no memories attached. But name Switzerland comes with many fond memories to a person who has already visited that country. Those who accept truth will do so in every Kalpa and those who reject it will do so in every Kalpa. Everyone knows there is love, and there is real love too; there is seeing, and there is real seeing too….etc. Similarly, those who see will always see [what physical eyes can see], and those who really see will always really see [what non-physical eyes can see]. Physical eyes see seed-tree-seed mechanism whereas non-physical eyes see an eternal cycle behind them. Physical eyes see the end of Kaliyuga and non-physical eyes can see beginning of the next cycle too.

      Thus two types of people are repeating two different sanskars. Spiritual person and physical person may always repeat acting in a fixed way. For example, when a spiritual person sees a purse falling on to the road from another person, he simply returns it to its owner and feels happy about that very act and WOULD NOT WANT ANY PUBLICITY to it. On the contrary, when a physical person sees a purse falling on to the road from another person, he simply takes it to himself and feels happy about the things he can buy with the money in that purse and WOULD NOT WANT ANY PUBLICITY to his taking the purse. These two types of people would always repeat their style of functioning. This is true in large scales also. In the first half of the Kalpa, inhabitants only enjoy the fruits of their actions performed in the Confluence Age. In second half more souls descend and divisiveness starts—and it is unstoppable. If anyone tries to introduce the features of first half of the Kalpa (such as one Government for all, one religion for all, one economical system for all, one language for all …etc), he will simply be resisted by all, and he will understand how impossible such change is, even though everyone knows it is highly beneficial. What an irony it is! Yet it is a fact! It means highlights of first half of the Kalpa and highlights of second half of the Kalpa simply repeat identically. It is an endless cycle of elevation and entropy! The only thing individual can do is acceptance or Amor Fati (love and accept everything that happens)—a beautiful concept the ancient Romans understood. In acceptance, there is peace, which brings other virtues such as love, joy…etc.

      Thus, in overall view, there is contentment. It is like one praising rain in overall view: “What a wonderful arrangement the rain is! It pours on all places.. It starts from ocean and travels through air as cloud and falls as drops and flows back to ocean. In the process, it cleanses the land and nourishes the living beings.” See what happens when he has limited view about rain: “What wastage! It pours water on rock, mountain, deserted areas …. etc.” Similarly, in limited view one may not fully appreciate the repetitive aspect of Drama saying “What a boring it would be!” Some would even ask: ‘If everything is fixed, why should I try or do seva?’ Such question has no meaning in their personal life because if someone is a skilled cook/dancer/driver/singer …etc, he/she would not ask “why should I be careful while cooking/dancing/driving/singing …etc?”

      The more attentive to one’s talent, skill, and work, the more enjoyable life would be no matter how repetitive the action is. As John Milton rightly wrote (in Paradise Lost): ‘The mind in its own place and in itself, can make Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven.’ You can find this true by a simple experiment. Imagine you are a grandfather. You kept a ladu [Indian Sweet] on dining table and went to washroom, and when you returned to eat it, it was missing. Now you begin to think who the possible culprit could be. You feel anger, when you think your maid as the culprit. You feel no anger when think of your wife. You feel happy when you think of your daughter. And you feel double happiness when you think your grand-daughter ate it. See how negative emotion of anger changed into double happiness according to the change in thought! A person who interacted with over 12000 persons during their wait for death, in the dusk of their lives, gives the highlight of what they all said: “One should try to find joy in the small things, for that is what would bring a blot of happiness. One should learn to accept the situation and choose what you deeply feel will be of value to you.” (Vibes: Incessant Journey of thoughts, by Mizuma Lenin)

      It’s all in our mind. If one feels “repetition is boring,” then it is boring; and if another feels “repetition is not boring,” then it is not boring. People who have overall view have no problem with the teaching that ‘everything (micro and macro) repeats’ because they know that happiness does not depend on whether something is repetitive or non-repetitive. Happiness depends on doing what we enjoy doing or on liking what we do, fully concentrating on the now, regardless of whether it is small thing or big thing, repetitive or non-repetitive. There are many things we do daily, on repetitive mode, such as brushing the teeth, bathing, eating … yet we don’t feel they are boring to us. Such routine things become even more enjoyable when we do them consciously. Apply this principle to everything we do; and you will find every moment become moment of joyfulness. Shrewd ones would also safeguard his happiness by keeping only positive and inspiring friends. And this is all the more necessary now as we are very close to the Golden Age.

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 10:06 AM on December 13, 2017 Permalink | Reply
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    Question on responsibility of sorrow of others. 

    “How much are we responsible for the sorrow of souls in connection with us? BKs believe that “we are not responsible for the unhappiness and sorrow of other people, it’s just their creation”. At the same time, others are also not responsible for our sorrow and unhappiness!! Can you PLEASE take this subject for one article in upcoming week.
    My second question is a small and direct question, the path of BKism has no way to experience “No-Mind” and “No-I”?? Ego can’t be dissolved with Shivbaba?”

    Thank you for your questions.
    The word “responsible” is a word that we have learned in the “Office world.” We are responsible for educating our children, we are responsible for our actions in society, etc. But at the same time, we know about PREDESTINATION.
    Then, who is responsible?

    The “office world” does not know about PREDESTINATION. They just know about “free-will” thus, to be “responsible” exists there. It is interesting that BK borrows many words from the “Office world” which truly does not apply to PREDESTINATION. They may do it for the sake of understanding, which many times turns into misunderstanding. Something like: ” You have free will to DO something, but once it is DONE, it is the DRAMA… and that will repeat…”  

    My direct answer is: Does it matter? You feel sorrow. Look at it. Acknowledge it. Embrace it. Learn from it. Do you feel that we are all ONE? Then what you DO to others, you DO it to yourself.
    Perhaps, you do not feel that we are ONE. Then, try to take advantage of others. Learn from that experience. Your Life will be a lesson.
    So, you are not AWARE enough to learn from your own Life… then “knowledge” comes to the rescue. Let me teach you about KARMA. You will be afraid of it. Your DOING will be restricted to your thought of DOING things “right” according to your understanding or the understanding of others. Acting this way appears to BE safe, although you ARE not the image of WISDOM but the image of cheap imitation as your ACTIONS (DOING) are carefully thought out. You are condemned to live in your head, with your ego telling you what to DO according to the understanding of the conditioning that you have received.

    “Responsible”…. Let me smile at that word… 🙂 Responsible brings irresponsible.

    Now on your second question. Observe how you have distorted what I said in the previous article. I wrote “No-mind” does not exist in the BK vocabulary.” And then you add “experience” and bring “ShivBaba” into the picture.
    So you want me to tell you if ego cannot be dissolved throuhg ShivBaba?
    Then I ask you: How do we know that what we experience is ShivBaba? Then, we go back to the repeated example in my last article.
    “I am a soul.” “ShivBaba is my father.”  Repeat the mantra until it sinks in the mind. No experience.

    Now, do you see why I repeat the same examples?
    If I say: “I have not experienced that my ego gets reduced through yoga with ShivBaba” then others will say, that they have experienced that. Who is who to say when ego gets reduced when we are not aware when ego increases?
    Direct answers such as “Yes” or No” are so deceiving, when you have not experienced something and you just want an answer for the sake of being “RIGHT.”

    Spiritually is not about BEING “right or wrong.” So what is all about?
    That… “You” will need to find out yourself.

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh Chawla 1:54 AM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you so much Ahnanda for responding to these questions. I somehow realize that if “Enligtment” or “Self realization” is for individual and no one else can give me, then there no meaning in asking so many questions and reading so many books! So I won’t be asking too many questions henceforth, I recall you writing in one article that “if there is a beatiful sun rise or sun set scene, rather than enjoying it, we ask questions on sun!”, in the same way rather than asking questions on words, I should enjoy reading and reflecting on those words! 🙂
      Another thing I wanted to say here is that I value BKs for one main thing and that is the realization of “I am not the mind”, becuase it happened only becuase of the belief given by the BK that Mind is the part of the soul, I am the soul, so I am the mind itself 🙂 Thanks Om shanti 🙂

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      • avyakt7- New Generation 7:45 AM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Dinesh: Enjoy your Life as it is, as the experience arrives without thoughts of comparing with others or hopes of
        making this experience “better in the future.”
        Enjoy the now as it is. Likewise, let others enjoy their version of happiness, for whatever that may be. If you take something out of these hundreds of writings, let this 5 or 6 lines be the main point. Thanks for BEING there.

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        • Dinesh 8:32 AM on December 17, 2017 Permalink | Reply

          Yes Ahnanda…thank you so much bro…☺

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 4:30 AM on November 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , drama, , ,   

    The typical BK questions: Karma, Drama, Cycle of time. 

    Back from vacation! There will be some changes in this blog.
    Avyakt7-NG will be writing an article once a week. Typically, on a Thursday. As time goes by, there will be further changes in the way Avyakt7-NG will share to BK or Ex-BK readers.

    Avyakt7-NG encourages you to send your questions. Please make those questions to the point and hopefully, for the “common good” rather than personal issues.

    Lakshmipriya sent her question(s) here:
    In your first question: If “I” look honestly, If “I” suffer from a disease, no words or mental console could help me. The point is that there is no “reason” that could take “my” suffering away. Yes, “karma” is a “reason.” It could be true, but many times in our current life times we do not see the “why” we have to settle or “pay” for something that we do not even remember that “we did” in a past life. On the other hand, BK knowledge states that there is predestination. That means there was no way out. We had to go through that experience. Period.
    Whatever it is happening, it IS. Deal with it, knowing that experiences have a duration and then, they will go away. This is not a belief. Enjoyment should be there out of any Life experience, for every experience never comes by itself, there is a thread of other experiences along with it, worth enjoying them.

    Question #2: If you understand the Drama well, you will see that there is NOTHING that could be labeled as “bad,” or “good.” It is what it IS and for a limited time. 

    Question#3: The word “actor” imply many things. An actor “knows” (has the experience) of being an actor. Most human beings do not. For most, we feel that it is “I.” That is our consciousness. Lakshmipriya: Your keywords are: “This understanding, helps me.” Avyakt7-NG shares that mental understanding does not change BEING. It only puts a façade to mentally “accept” the issue. However, that stage is necessary to go beyond the trap of the mind.

    In one of Avyakt7’s trips to India as a BK, Avyakt7 went to Jodphur by himself.
    It is a different “reality” there, than being sheltered in Madhuban. Avyakt7 remembers seeing a dog walking down the street. The dog was limping. The dog was very dirty and it seemed as it had many diseases. The dog most likely, did not have a home. No food waiting. However, the dog was living Life. There is no “idea” of committing “suicide.” That dog was free from the mind. There is no “reason” needed to comfort the “suffering” of the dog, for the dog does not have that duality in the mind. On the other hand, humans are looking for “reasons” which they call “knowledge.” Those are pacifiers for someone living in the mind.

    The dog may “instinctively” KNOW that the “medicine is to go through the experience itself. Not to try to escape it. Light is at the end of that tunnel.”

    Hope that answered your questions.
    At the same time, this answers Christopher Joseph’s inquiry about “karma.”

    Now, on the question by Dinesh here:
    Ahnanda had the privilege to connect with his friend, Mathias while in Peru. Ahnanda shared with Mathias that Ahnanda’s sharing of “no-I” was misunderstood. Mathias responded that “ That [No-I] hurts them.” Also, he mentioned about “taking the pulse of others before sharing” without using those BK words.
    Therefore: When we experience “no-I” there is no cycle of time.
    When we experience “I” we are afraid of the cycle of time. When we “intellectually know” about the cycle of time and we believe it, while being only conscious of the “I,” there will be an inner war, an inner fight, a dissonance for the belief goes against our consciousness of “I have free will.”
    Thus, knowing that what will you DO? 🙂

    For the common good.

     
    • Lakshmipriya Nagarajan 6:04 AM on November 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      To look myself honestly I require the knowledge of truth. Isn’t it brother?. If the right answer is not given to the mind, the mind is going to keep on chatter. Over a period of time, I do not require to give any reason to the mind as the questioning ceases on this issue as I experience the truth. I understand “no-I” as “no ego”, no acquired sanskars. Otherwise embodied soul will have mind. And as I become close to “being”, probably i will be harmonizing the thought and actions. Yes, the suffering of body can not be stopped but the amplification of suffering caused by the mind’s expansion can be stopped by applying the powerful brake of knowledge. Isn’t it?

      Don’t I have the power to accept to go beyond the trap of mind. By using this power at right time in a right way many times, I can become the embodiment of that power. This will bring me to a stage of no-I. Isn’t it? In order to bring this “power to accept” in action, I need some knowledge points such as drama is accurate in operating as per philosophy of Karma, it is beneficial in bringing me to my original self. Everyone is actor playing their perfect role in the drama so on so forth…

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      • avyakt7- New Generation 9:27 AM on November 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        As far as my experience, honesty is not related with some external idea of what “truth” should be. Honesty is to know what truly is going on inside and acknowledge it. As you mentioned, “knowledge” stops the amplification of suffering which comes from the mind. But it is only temporarily, for a few days; then the mind needs the same or higher quantity of that “fix.” This is the “reason” why in BK there is a need to listen to the Murli everyday. We “understand but we forget.” Nevertheless, even though the amplification of the sound could be stopped for a few days… the sound is still there. We want to get rid of it “now,” but that is not in the Drama…

        “No-I” is not an idea. It is an experience. Until there is experience, there can only be mind made speculations on how to “arrive to it,” how to “get it for me,” how to achieve it… All of that is an extension of the “I.”

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    • Gayathri 11:52 AM on November 30, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      There are many levels of understanding/ interpreting Baba’s words.

      Baba says, “The ghost of attachment destroys all truth, everything”.

      Attachment comes from the word, ‘mine’. When we are not very sure who “I” am, we tend to assume our physical body, physical relationships, and physical belongings to be ‘mine’/ ours.

      Recently we were churning the topic, “Drama”. Though we may consider ourselves to be a soul, even the soul can not claim its qualities/ sanskars as its own because the soul is ONLY a ‘container’ for the 84 or so roles that are destined to be played through that particular soul. Every thought, word, and action of the soul is already destined to happen in a particular sequence, in a particular way which can not be changed even minutely.

      It is not just the body that we possess, even the roles that are being played through us are not OURS in the sense we have no control over them, we can not order and get them do things according to our wish.

      The real “I” is just an observer, a catalyst… When we can not even separate the real “I” from the role that is being played through us, when we confuse our role to be the real “I”, how real could be the ‘mine’?

      Considering the ‘role’ as the “I” it self is a myth/ a ghost, and the ‘mine’, the attachment is a ‘ghost’ that makes us believe that we own certain people and objects. Our eyes deceive us a lot. 🙂 What we usually consider as ‘mine’, the attachment, destroys all the truth.

      regards,
      Gayathri ben.

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      • ahnanda 3:27 PM on December 1, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        “Attachment comes from the word, ‘mine’. ”
        Attachment is not a word. Words are merely pointers. Understanding of words is not necessary. What is important is to look at the pointers and find those in ourselves. That requires honesty, observation, awareness… not “knowledge.” Churning has no consequence but it is a distraction for the mind. We could come up with wonderful ideas and never look at the self with honesty.
        The ultimate attachment is to the self, but attachment is not the issue once we discover that what we call self, is always changing. The mind is stuck with a picture, when Life is a movie. 🙂

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    • Christopher joseph 5:51 AM on December 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Very rightly said Ahnanda.Esp.the example of the dog whether there is light at the end of the tunnel or no light should not make a difference.as we should live with zero expectation. THE NON BEING.😊Still my mind Questions me as to how I came into being in the present environment (in the absence of karma)🤔😊

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      • ahnanda 4:32 PM on December 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        As we know, the way to calm the mind is to give it some “reason.” Make up or get convinced with whatever “reason” you like … and then BELIEVE it. That is all! 🙂

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    • Dinesh C 11:58 PM on December 2, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      ok Hi Ahnanda, thanks a lot bro for sharing that information with us from your friend Mithias, I feel what they said is actually true, but can you please briefly tell us in what way the “No-I” is hurting us? Because if I share what I ended up doing after “Knowing” this “No-I” is that I tried applying it at the level of intellect again, though you told me that the “No-I” simply happens, there is no DOING involved in this experience.
      Regarding knowing the pulse of the other being before sharing this experience of N0-I, I have mostly shared some of my life experiences here in an open way, even about my sexuality, and experience of what happened during me being an Adhar Kumar for 6 years, in breif way! so actually to some extent you know my pulse Ahnanda! well I am just saying about what I understand from my experience… so thanks again 🙂

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      • ahnanda 4:39 PM on December 3, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Most humans are experiencing the “I.” Brahma Kumaris “knowledge” is supportive of it. So is Christianity and most mainstream religions.
        To say : The “I” doesn’t exist. “You” are not the one controlling your Life. It is perplexing, when people are interested in becoming SOMEONE in Life and the after life. Dinesh: You try many things but it is at the intellectual level. “Trying” is “I.”
        Then the questions you may have is: Then, How do “I” improve? Again, trapped in the “I.”
        There are many things in Life the mind cannot understand for understanding comes through experience, not trough intellectual talk… 🙂
        Awareness, consciousness, observation… That is all is needed, but when we are not there, we may need to DO something to “improve.’ Thus, wherever you are, is good. Enjoy it!

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    • Lakshmipriya Nagarajan 2:56 AM on December 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      yes brother, any point of knowledge if not coming into experience, it is just understanding. Yes, I need the support of murli to maintain silence in the mind. I need murli everyday as a tonic to infuse the positive thoughts in the mind otherwise it goes out of control. I do not even able to observe me as I end up with action. Murli churning helps to observe me and act according to Shrimath. For sure, I would say, that I started observing me, accept the emotions, and try to let go of it. This blog helped me a lot to churn murli in different way..Thanks a lot.

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      • ahnanda 10:32 AM on December 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Lakshmipriya: Observe how you interpret “my” words according to your experiences and conditionings. You are not the only one. I am definitely learning from that. At the end, what matters is that all of these writings are “helpful to you.” It is interesting to note, that for others; these writings are not helpful at all… 🙂
        Any one wants to ask WHY?
        It doesn’t matter. Any reason may be called “knowledge” but that label doesn’t make any difference for those feeling these writings to be unhelpful or helpful.

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 7:49 AM on November 7, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: actors, , , , , drama, Gayathri, , , , ,   

    BEING does not change through intellectual understanding. 

    Gayathri wrote an article which she shared it here.
    In this article, she expresses her understanding of the Drama, the soul and the predestined roles; explained in her unique ways supported by her own experiences.
    I am appreciative of her sharing. It is a well written article.

    However, her second article here is my favorite. Why?
    It is “real.” Anyone could observe her words in our own selves. We have been conditioned to believe that “ I create my thoughts,” we go with that belief, even though, plain observation and awareness may convey otherwise. It requires “effort” to look without bias. She just shared a third article here, which is equally good.

    However, after understanding intellectually all of those wonderful things; ARE we detached observers, or simply happy enjoying the movie of Life?
    No?
    Then of what good is that ”understanding”?

    If we suffer a disease, we should be happy. Right? Didn’t Baba tell us to be happy by paying happily our “debts,” our karmic accounts?

    In a nutshell: What we DO is to fake what we truly feel. To add a few more days of fake intellectual happiness until the mind gets “needy” again. Then, it needs another fix of beliefs.

    Brahma Kumaris is the path of the mind (Raja Yoga.)
    Baba is giving “reasons,” “truths,” “explanations,” and even “churnings” of intelligent children with “good intellects” to satisfy the hunger of “knowledge” of the children.
    He is giving all of that because the “children” are trapped in their own minds.

    We are conditioned to believe in something. We are conditioned to believe that when we know the “truth,” that will save us, that will make us “special.”
    But we can only go as far as our conditioning permits.

    For instance, we “know” the Drama is predestined, but yet we believe that there is good and bad, right or wrong. We label people, situations, circumstances, accordingly.
    If the Drama is predestined how is it possible to label something as “bad”? It was necessary. “Beneficial.” Thus, Is a low status “bad”? Is the Iron age “bad”? 
    “Churn” about it. But if you ARE invested in a belief system, you cannot explore. You are limited by your conditioning.

    The mind creates the “I.”
    The “I” creates predestination and free will. Those words and their meaning only exist in the mind, not in Life.
    Are we “actors”? An actor is aware of being an actor by learning a script. We are not aware of being actors. We don’t learn scripts. We believe that we make them. We feel that what is happening is “real.” We feel that it is not a play. Then why lie to ourselves?

    To calm the mind and get out of our sorrow temporarily.
    We are looking for a way to escape our sorrow and disappointments in Life.

    We are willing to make this Life a martyrdom so in the “afterlife,” we could be someone “special.” That is how desperate we are.

    The medicine is to go through the experience itself. Not to try to escape it. Light is at the end of that tunnel. We need to walk to the other side. We may be afraid, we may be attached to our current situation, we may value the safety of the known (even though suffering) greater than the unknown.

    A Sakar Murli has said that “courage” is the predominant quality of a Deity soul.
    Be courageous. Everything and anything is bound to start and to finish. That is our experience. No need to add beliefs or intellectual theories.
    Courage is the quality which allows a person to BE despite the different types of weather. Life is that weather. The weather is seasonal. That is our experience. No beliefs are necessary.

    By covering our mind with beliefs and intellectual realizations, we may calm the mind; but never BEING.
    Whether we believe to be a soul, a spirit or a body is of no consequence.

    Enjoy the experience of living. The contrasts, the surprises, the challenges, etc. Whether it repeats eternally or not, is of no consequence at all. What matters is “Now.”
    “Now” is the only time when we can experience and enjoy Life. As mentioned before: Enjoyment and appreciation are “good” karma for all.

    For the common good.

    Until November 30th! 🙂

     
    • lakshmipriya 1:17 AM on November 8, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Dear brother,
      I read all your articles and i like it. There is a place in my heart that your writings are good and i should pay attention to it. I try to understand the depth of your writings. But, recently I could not feel comfortable and there is struggle in the mind to understand what you mean. I do not able to make it. Probably i have conditioned my mind for certain beliefs. Now, i want to get it clarified by writing my understandings to align with what you are writing. Kindly help me to understand.

      1) “If we suffer a disease, we should be happy. Right? Didn’t Baba tell us to be happy by paying happily our “debts,” our karmic accounts?”

      Earlier, If there is a disease, i used to think why for me? I used to envy on people who have good health. It is so funny if others are also getting the disease then, it was ok for me. Probably feeling of I am no less than others.

      Due to the understanding of Gyan, now I know, it has come to settle the accounts. I understand Drama is beneficial in this way as it operates according to the imperishable perfect law of karma. This understanding automatically puts full stop to the questions in the mind. As mind becomes healthy, it is easy to get through the disease. There used to be instances to think that i got this so i would have done something bad. Over a period of time, I relinquished myself out of the guilt and develop acceptance. I made the point to think what is in hand now to do about it. Be embodiment of solutions is my favourite.

      2) Is a low status “bad”? Is the Iron age “bad”?

      If i understand drama well, i won’t say it is bad but accurate.

      3) Are we “actors”? An actor is aware of being an actor by learning a script. We are not aware of being actors. We don’t learn scripts. We believe that we make them. We feel that what is happening is “real.” We feel that it is not a play. Then why lie to ourselves?

      Actors means there is no choice but to play the script. Though I do not know the script, i am destined to act which is already there in the script. If there is a freewill, then i will not be called as actor. So to understand me as actor is to play my roles as destined without attaching to that. Act, but be detached and attach to your original self. This understanding helps me to accept others as i know that they are acting in this way. This act is based on their consciousness throughout the drama and my interactions with them in the past.

      The medicine is to go through the experience itself. Not to try to escape it. Light is at the end of that tunnel.
      What do you mean by this brother?
      My understanding and dharana is,
      Through the understanding of the perfect actor and co-actors in this drama of life, i am able to give attention to maintain my original status. There is no enmity, judgmental feelings on others.

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      • Christopher joseph 7:45 AM on November 29, 2017 Permalink | Reply

        Sweet Avyakt7-NG .waiting for your return to hear your experience of enjoyment and appreciation ( during your absence.)There are some beliefs which cannot be erased like “karma”😊Hoping to gain more knowledge from your Experiences 😊so waiting to experience reading about your experiences which is a part of my enjoyment. 🤔
        Thank you in advance 😊…November 29th.

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 6:53 AM on September 26, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , drama, , , , intellectual answers   

    Question: Why the Drama is the way it is? 

    Thank you for your question.
    Answer: Because it cannot be any other way.
    Although your question may be intellectually sound, it does not make any sense beyond the limited intellectual realm. It is an “unreal” question. 🙂

    I should ask: Which way is the Drama for you? You may explain in several lines what is your experience of what the Drama IS.
    However, that is not what the Drama IS. It is just your experience. It may be the experience of many; yet is only an experience. Thus, you may want to rephrase your question into: Why is my experience of the Drama, the way it is?
    And for that question, I could answer: If you don’t know; who may? It is at that point when reasoning no longer works and unreasonably, we still want to hear an answer. That is how God enters the picture, the saint, the guru, the expert, the scientist or whoever you believe in as the ultimate authority.

    Think of the Drama as a jigsaw puzzle. What is the purpose of it? That depends on you.
    The jigsaw puzzle has pieces. If they are all together; then the purpose is to disperse them. But, if they are all dispersed; then the purpose is to put them together in certain order. Unless your purpose is just to watch the pieces: Then you can have the purpose to despise them or admire them, or something in between. Different experiences bring different perceptions according to your state of consciousness. See?

    The “real” question is: “Why am I the way I am?”
    To answer that question means that you are looking, observing, being AWARE of that which we call “I.” As the “I” changes, so your perception; therefore; the Drama will be different under that particular consciousness.

    We cannot explain with limited words what is unlimited. But since you are asking intellectual questions, let me try to answer that intellectually:

    What IS has to have an opposite to BE. Without an opposite it cannot BE.
    That opposite is truly a complementary; for what IS, is ONE; but by BEING two different things, we can intellectually grasp what is not truly two but one.
    The Drama is ONE. If your mind perceives something different than what IS, then change your mind into no-mind.
    In no-mind, YOU ARE NOT, so the DRAMA IS NOT, even though it IS.

    Thus, why the Drama is the way it is? Because YOU ARE.

    Do you see how deceptive that WHY could be? The above sounds non-sensical, but that is as close as I can get through a verbal explanation, to answer your question.
    Even if you could intellectually understand what I just wrote, that will not change a bit what YOU ARE.

    If you ARE something, embrace your opposite, for otherwise; you cannot know who you truly ARE. Thus, if you think you ARE something; you truly don’t know who you ARE.

    The DRAMA is not, when YOU ARE NOT.
    Then, at that point; what IS?
    Nothing and everything. Makes sense? 🙂

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh C 7:15 AM on October 8, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      yes Ahnanda, the actual question was “Why am “I” the way “I” am? 🙂

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 12:06 PM on July 25, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , Braham Baba, , , drama, , , land of peace, peace, , Sakar murli understanding,   

    Question: Significance of the Drama, Peace and Happiness – Sakar Murli. 

    Can you elaborate on this?

    “By understanding the significance of which aspect do you children not ask for peace or happiness?
    Answer:
    You understand the significance of the drama. You understand that the play is now about to end. You will first return to the land of peace and then go to the land of happiness. This is why you do not ask for peace or happiness. You stabilise yourselves in your original religion of peace. People do not even know about the religion of the self nor do they understand the significance of the drama. This is why they say, “Give peace to my mind!” In fact, it is the soul that needs peace, not the mind.”

    Thank you for your question.
    To understand Brahma Kumaris’ purpose is to understand first, our own minds.
    Brahma Kumaris is about intellectual understanding. Nevertheless, that intellectual understanding is unable to make a change in consciousness.
    Yes, we can understand the significance of the Drama. It is eternally repetitive. Thus, for the mind the incentive is in the “future.” “Over there “I” will be happy and peaceful. Right now, “I” have to make effort.” 

    The gist of any Sakar Murli is to make us “understand” that “right now”  does not matter, for the reward is coming up in the “future,” in my “next life.”
    That is the “reality” of the mind which likes to fantasize with the future and the past, but it is hardly the reality of BEING.

    Observe the language: “religion of the self.” There is no such a thing. Many things get lost in translation of the original Sakar Murlis. It all depends on the choice of words of the one(s) translating and more important, his practical experience.
    Thus, I can say without hesitation that the original teachings of Brahma Baba have been changed to portray followers understanding instead. This is the reason why we may need to go into our own experience and our own feeling rather than blindly following paragraphs of beliefs.

    Peace is not of the soul nor the mind. Peace is a state of BEING.
    That is related with consciousness not with the container of roles, the soul.
    The “land of peace” is truly the “land of emptiness.” The soul is empty of content, thus; that state could be labeled as peace. But it is not practical peace, it is not to BE peace in the world.

    Our minds are full of things. There cannot be peace there, for the mind overrides the emptiness of BEING. That is why in Brahma Kumaris it is emphasized to keep the mind busy with “remembrance.” It is thought that “I” can control the mind if “I” give a recurrent thought to it and make it stronger, if “I” add a feeling. 

    The state of “no-mind” is not known; however, that is the practical experience to be in the “present,” the “now.”

    Therefore, to know about the significance of the Drama will do very little for our consciousness. If there is something “bad” happening in our lives, we will be shaken no matter how much we understand the Drama.
    True understanding is not of the mind, it is about consciousness.
    Interestingly, I do not recall if ever that word (consciousness) has been used in a Sakar Murli. Probably the word “soul” is used instead; thus the confusion for the follower.
    What confusion?

    “I am a peaceful soul, but I am not that now. I need that peace, it will come in the “future.” Or, I need to take away the “rust” to be peaceful.” But Peace is not an intellectual idea that I can imbibe by repeating “I am a peaceful soul” or by knowing the significance of the Drama.
    Have we experienced that?

    For the common good.

     
  • avyakt7- New Generation 4:56 AM on July 6, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , drama, , , monotheistic religion, one BK, , , ,   

    Oneness and Brahma Kumaris 

    Have you ever heard of Brahma Kumaris or other monotheistic religion/faith speak about Oneness?
    That is out of their philosophy.
    They may talk about the “One” in reference with God, but the idea of being ONE with everything is typically out. The label used for that is “omnipresence.”

    Nowadays, the slogan “we are all one” is promoted by “new age” movements. There is the “oneness blessing” and other things which give the idea of inclusiveness.

    The World Cycle, the Drama is ONE. Brahma Kumaris’ philosophy explains about predestination of this. It is like a movie. The movie is one. The actors filmed in the movie have preordained activities to comply with the script. Consciousness will dictate their script. That is who we are: Consciousness (“roles” is the term used by BKs, but it is not accurate from my view) but we only see the separation of the bodies, the apparent individuality.
    Do we see that?

    In which moment do we see the “reality” of individuality and free will? Only when there is consciousness of separation of this entity called “I” from everything else.

    God is separate from “I.” The Drama is separate from “I.” Although, the teaching is predestination, which implies oneness; for who is in “control”? The teaching also supports that “I” can make “effort” and change “me” according to my beliefs. I am not saying that this may not happen. I am saying that it may happen only if it is in the Drama. Therefore, I can DO other things beside the BK beliefs to get “there” if I believe so, but the belief is that only BK teachings and practice will take you there, although there is no guarantee of “success.” Do we see that?  Are you karmateet yet? Why not?  Perhaps need more “effort”?  Maybe. It is a matter of belief. Thus, the most important component is INTENTION, for the Drama already has its script and whatever that is, IS what is necessary, “good” and needed for all.

    For all of those believing in “We are all one” then predestination is the obvious piece of the puzzle which is missing, but most will not accept it. It doesn’t sell.

    Life moves as a giant unity. ‘We” are not separated from the environment, people, settings, etc. Yet, we want to control those things so “I” can prevail and accomplish “my” beliefs.

    Do you see that God is bound to the Drama? So are “you.”
    What is God then? A label.
    Who am ”I”? If the answer is “soul,” all it has been done is to change a label for another. That is the trap of individuals caught up in the mind. Their world is about switching labels, ideas, concepts which are deemed to be “better.”  “Soul” is a catch all label, when the experience of it may be different for every consciousness. Who is to tell if someone is “soul conscious”? 

    “I” am ONE with everything that exists. There is no separation. When consciousness is at this level, the search for God, salvation, heaven and all of those “achievements” are no longer needed. “I” am nothing in particular and everything. Both at the same time.

    When consciousness is not there, what we perceive is the separation of that which we call “I.” At that point, salvation is needed as well as the pursue of the “one” who will grant it for “me.” The “I” perceives its limitations, its fears. The “I” needs to cling on a God to be “someone” that will last …. forever.

    It is all about consciousness. The journey is to experience the limitations of the “I” to embrace the unlimited experience of Oneness.
    Thus, there is no one view which could better than another when we are honest with our level of consciousness. Those 2 seemingly different views are stages of the same path. If we are not honest, we will “believe” in the “better” alternative, we will use the mind, the concepts to defend our position to be “right.”

    That will not take us anywhere, but to strengthen the “I.”

    Let me finish with this: Predestination and free will DO NOT EXIST. They are only concepts. What exists is the “Drama,” Life itself… the movie.  🙂

    For the common good.

     
    • Dinesh C 4:04 AM on July 9, 2017 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Ahnanda,

      That makes a lot of sense bro, but can you please explain a bit more about consciousness, with reference to awareness, now what my experience so far with BEING aware is that, it is just a state of being there, separation from thoughts is experienced when you BE AWARE with high alertness from inside, but what is this consciousness, now an India is in different conciousness than an American based on their culture when they meet.

      Is conciousness nothing but the awareness of our own set of believes? Like an Indian has different set of believes than an American, so they both behave in different conciousness when they meet. Also, when two people with same conciousness meet, they behave in different way than people with different conciousness, like a BK behaving with some love and affection with another BK, well I am just taking examples to support my understanding, also to be conscious is same as to be aware!!

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  • avyakt7- New Generation 5:06 AM on June 29, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , brahmin soul, drama, , , , , , status golden age   

    “No Mind”: Is it to learn to accept how the Drama is? 

    One of the aspects to realize about the Brahma Kumaris path, is that it is a path for the head, the intellect. Love is only intellectual there, as its expression is limited. That is not “bad” at all, as Brahma Kumaris fulfills an important role for those “chosen” to go through that path.
    The word “Drama” is such an intellectual concept. 

    Brahma Kumaris has established an explanation on how Life works and what humans need to DO to claim the biggest reward of all, a “high status” in the Golden Age, Paradise.

    Most individuals are used to that way of thinking. There is a goal to pursue, a worthwhile goal which will be eternal and repetitive. An objective which is the highest. This way of thinking is merely an intellectual extrapolation of the conditioning of our society, that is why; the masses can accept it.

    “I” may not have a good social position now. I may not be popular, rich, etc. However, “I” was chosen by God to be a Brahmin soul and with that “I” was given the right to my “fortune.”

    The amount of “I-ness” is unbelievable. However, most will not realize it. Why? Because there is no awareness as long as we are within the system. Quitting the Brahma Kumaris is not cure, for our mainstream society follows the same, although in a more “material” way. The intellect rules in both paths.

    “Spirituality” (Living Life in joy) is beyond any concept. Beyond any tales of salvation. Beyond any neat explanation on how we could be someone “special” in this life and the afterlife.

    A child does not have concepts to believe . He lives his life fully. He is what he is. He is not concerned in labeling and identifying who he is. The stories, the concepts, the research, will come later in Life. He will be conditioned to believe that the world of the mind is the “real thing.”

    To live like a child, authentic living, we may need to go through deconditioning.
    Going back again? You may ask.
    Yes. But it is different. An adult who knows about the experience of the conceptual mind will know what others are going through. He will understand for he has experience. A child does not have that experience yet. He does not know.

    There is no need to know any theoretical, conceptual knowledge. Living life fully, out of the mind, is what revitalizes a human being. That experience is all.
    “No-mind” is not about acceptance of anything. It is not about realization of something. It is a state of Being. The easiest way to describe it, is by observing a child. It does not mean that we need to “follow” as many will do with a “master.” It just means to recognize that once we were like that, and now we are something different. It is in that awareness how change starts again; but we trap ourselves with all the acquisitions (mental and material) and “goodies” that we have obtained through the powers of the mind-full theoretical conception of Life. It is difficult to let it go and go back to being child-like.

    “No-mind” is not a concept to attain. It is an experience. It is within us, but all these ideas of BECOMING someone “better” or ACHIEVING something for ourselves will not allow us to experience that experience once again.

    Such is the Drama/Life. 🙂

    For the common good.

     
  • avyakt7- New Generation 5:54 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , drama, , , improvement, , , ,   

    Being does not mean to BE something. 

    The Drama has a path to follow. It moves through the same steps over and over again.
    Any person is included in this movement. Some people in this life time, will “improve,” others will not. Different timing.

    From our limited (ignorant) perspective, if “I” want to improve “now,” I should DO things to fight and get my way. (“My” idea of improvement.)
    Observe that it may not be my time yet. It may be a different life time. Nevertheless, that fight “now” with my destiny, is needed in my Life experience.
    Therefore, DOING some practice is not the issue for whether I DO or I don’t, still my destiny will be what it ought to be. In Life, we don’t need to learn to swim with the current or against it. We just need to float and let the current take us. When you know that Life is a circle; What is the hurry? Where do you want to get “first”?
    We are sold on the label “improvement.”

    What do we typically call “improvement” in “spirituality”?
    I use to DO this and now I don’t OR, I didn’t DO that but now I DO.
    Everything is in the realm of DOING. That is a “Yogi.” Yogis are using their will power to overcome everything. “I” will make myself DO or don’t DO certain things which I BELIEVE to be right for MY “improvement.”

    Out of all the “practices” in my Brahma Kumaris experience as a yogi, the only one  remaining is to be a vegetarian. Certainly, it is not a “practice” for me.

    That is natural to me. It was with me even before joining the Brahma Kumaris. I did not make any effort to “practice” that, thus; when the Brahma Kumaris conditioning ended in my path, that is the only thing that remained true to myself.
    Everything else was artificially put there through my will power an my beliefs.
    Those things went away.

    What is natural is what you ARE. Acknowledge that. Learn from that.
    Consciousness does not change through opposition of something which we may label as “bad.”
    That only allows for a fight to appear, a clash. However, that is not “bad,” for it may be part of someone’s path.
    The “I” opposes to something to differentiate from it, but there is nothing solid to define the “I.”

    What do we call “I”?
    That is the question that continually gets covered with other “nice” labels.
    “I” am a soul, a son of God, an angel, a deity, etc.
    Those labels will not allow me to look inside and see who “I am.”

    Brahma Kumaris knowledge makes a distinct separation between the “I” and the Drama of Life. This separation makes the journey of the yogi.
    Nevertheless, the same knowledge points out the repetitive nature of the Drama, its predestined path. The “I” is part of it.
    The issue is not whether to DO or not to DO something in Life.  The issue is whether we are conscious, aware of the direction of the current of Life.

    You have the right path and the left path. The “right” path is not necessarily to go right all the time. Feel the path. If we are conditioned to believe that the left path is “bad,” we will not be able to feel. The mind usually will set up our lives into narrow paths, the heart feels Life.

    For the common good.

     
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